Why am I doing less damage on this other bow? - Guild Wars Forums

lorazcyk · Dec 04, 2011, 04:28 AM // 04:28

Warning:
Super noobie ranger I am.

Quote:

Sundering Ancient Hornbow of Fortitude 15-28
req 9
20/20
15>50
Health +30
Customized

Quote:

Icy Celestial Longbow of Fortitude 15-28
req 10
15>50
Health +30
Not Customized

Why am I doing so little damage per shot on auto-attack on my hornbow, compared to the longbow?

thetwistedboy · Dec 04, 2011, 04:33 AM // 04:33

You're fighting fire based enemies?

lorazcyk · Dec 04, 2011, 05:00 AM // 05:00

That was my first thought.

I was fighting in Varajar Fells, centaurs and minotaurs.
Then I did the Zaishen Bounty (Justicar Thormis) fighting Summit.

Giro · Dec 04, 2011, 05:15 AM // 05:15

Post screenies of the dmg numbers at the Master of Damage.

Cool Name · Dec 04, 2011, 05:48 AM // 05:48

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Modniir_Berserker
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Berserking_Minotaur
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Justiciar_Thommis

All have less armor against elemental damage than piercing/physical.

lorazcyk · Dec 04, 2011, 06:16 AM // 06:16

642 damage
average 12 dmg / sec

600 dmg
average 13 damage / sec

other random bow
595
average 12 damage / second

Also just learned that bows make different sounds depending on what prefix mod it has ;-) Pretty cool.
But I suppose the person above is right, must be the enemies armor rating.
Anyway, too sleepy to think about this, good night.

Cool Name · Dec 04, 2011, 06:30 AM // 06:30

Also just a brief calculation:

If you were to do 28 physical damage to a modniir it would deal 14 actual damage, but if it was elemental damage it would do 19-20 damage. (I think, if I have read this table correctly: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Armor...g#Armor_tables

Axel Zinfandel · Dec 04, 2011, 07:45 AM // 07:45

Hornbows have innate 10% armor penetration.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hornbow

Tripolityx · Dec 04, 2011, 01:09 PM // 13:09

The other is Hornbow as he mentioned which has 10% Armor Penetration.
The other Bow does not have 20/20 mod unlike the other.
The other Bow is customized which adds 20% Base Damage.
The other Bow has Icy string attached which affects the Damage depending on the foe
* Be sure to have 10 Markmanship while testing the Q10 Bow *giggle*

HellScreamS · Dec 04, 2011, 06:36 PM // 18:36

surprised it took so long for 1 to see 1 bow was customized, meaning +20% more damage.

Wenspire · Dec 04, 2011, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Isn't he saying the hornbow is doing les damage though?

Fay Vert · Dec 04, 2011, 10:38 PM // 22:38

Surprised so many people are not getting it. The one with the advantages (customised, lower req, armour piercing) is the one doing less. Only other significant difference is the elemental bow string.

Wenspire · Dec 05, 2011, 12:20 AM // 00:20

CoolName up above probably got the main reason, that being the enemies they were used against were warrior-based class that have innately more armor vs physical damage than elemental. Used vs a Ranger-class enemy, I'm sure the results would be opposite (even without customization and armorpen attribute).

lorazcyk · Dec 05, 2011, 08:44 AM // 08:44

Yep, that's probably it. Thanks for your help :-)
I don't normally play physical classes, so I'm not used to the fact physicals have extra armor vs physical.

Was a bit sad about the little damage, because I fell in love with that new bow :P ... (❤3 ❤)