[Konig Des Todes]

Originally Posted by EwolxNavi

At any rate, I think Razah is all that remains of Abaddon. He's a creature of the Mists that was conveniently spawned in the Heart of Abaddon shortly after the god's death.

Now now, who said Razah spawned after Abaddon's death? I doubt those spirits bound themselves to Razah, someone had to imprison him. I think it was Abaddon.

Onto my main reason for posting:

I've made a series of new revelations (for myself) these past few weeks which may give a "no" answer to this threads' question. I'll go in order of my discoveries (some of which might have been noted by others that will read this post before I discovered them).

Firstly, when I was rewritting the Abaddon wiki article to make it more complete, I noticed this note:

Originally Posted by Abaddon

Abaddon's mask, sword and right gauntlet can be seen in the Ruins of Morah mission.

At first, I was just "What? I've never noticed that before" so I went to the Ruins of Morah page where I saw the picture which included a glove, a sword, and a mask.

So I went into the missions to observe these as I know they go through the portal at the top (the fact that things which come up and go through there I knew already), and I took these shots:

Firstly, the glove:



As you can see, it is empty (rather obvious to think), and though I couldn't get a shot (due to speed) the glove - like all three objects, fall into the portal whole (not in pieces like the rock around them).

The sword:


Not much with this either, though it is interesting to note that Abaddon had a sword (and a cool looking one in my opinion).

Finally, his mask:


Interesting to note that it is more like a margonite mask than others.


The thing about this mission which I bring up: We have his equipment, but no body (well some would state that is because it is the Realm of Torment). I disagree! I say Abaddon died in this spot and what we see is a "new body" - the soul reconstructing a body. And here is why:

Originally Posted by Gate of Anguish;gw.dat

The Gate of Anguish is one of the great locks erected by the five gods to imprison Abaddon. Located on the first layer of the Realm of Torment, the lock was sundered when Varesh performed her unholy ceremony at the Temple of Lyssa in Vabbi, allowing the fallen lord to coalesce part of his godform and gain much greater control over his prison. Past the gate lies a whirpool of darkness.

Originally Posted by Gate of Pain;gw.dat

The Gate of Pain is one of the great locks erected by the five gods to imprison Abaddon. Located on the first layer of the Realm of Torment, the lock was sundered when Varesh completed her convocation with Abaddon, allowing the fallen lord to coalesce enough of his godform to begin extruding parts of his tormented realm into the real world. Past the gate lies a river of tormented souls damned to live in Abaddon's pain forever.

The bold is the important part. I know some of you (Leon and Quintus should he return for a peak) would state that the gw.dat is unreliable as the information may no longer be canon, though this offers an excelent answer to the following question:

Why is it Abaddon is just a head and forearms?

Originally, I thought it was due to game mechanics and limitations (a full boss that big? Outragous, computers would cry), but this dat entry answers it perfectly.

Before continuing, for those who don't know what coalesce means:

Originally Posted by Dictionary.com

co⋅a⋅lesce
  /ˌkoʊəˈlɛs/
–verb (used without object)
1. to grow together or into one body: The two lakes coalesced into one.
2. to unite so as to form one mass, community, etc.: The various groups coalesced into a crowd.
3. to blend or come together: Their ideas coalesced into one theory.
–verb (used with object)
4. to cause to unite in one body or mass.

As most people would know, the Domain of Pain and the Domain of Anguish are very... fleshy. For the later, primarily the Stygian Veil - though there are some body parts in the Ravenheart Gloom (stacks of eyes, some having erroded like eyes) and the Foundry of Failed Creations (I noted a hand at a spot, though don't seem to have a picture of it).


In summary:

I believe that what we fight in Abaddon's Gate is not Abaddon's original body, but instead a "recreated" body made from parts of torment. His original body was destroyed before the Exodus and his soul was what was locked up. In Abaddon's Gate, we didn't just kill Abaddon, but destroyed his very soul, which is why his power runs rampant at that time, but not when Abaddon was killed before.

In other words, the only way for Abaddon to return, if I am right, is through possessing Kormir, as she says his will is broken, this might (but does not mean it is undoubtably) mean his consciousness resides in Kormir in a similar manner to a parasite - Abaddon can no longer exist by himself, and cannot exist without Kormir.