New Xunlai Tournament House Information

[Karate Jesus]

Originally Posted by De Maximoff

Xunlai Tournament House News (Updated 8/28)

Update from Linsey Murdock:
Xunlai Tournament House Update
We now have an accurate list of XTH winners from the May monthly predictions and are in the planning stages to distribute those points. We’ll need to deploy some new code to upgrade the system, which requires a bit of delicate timing. Part of this deployment must occur through a build, but some of it will happen automatically on the servers. During this time, if anyone speaks to Kun Shao, it could disrupt the system and garble up the list.

To address the issue, we’ll be doing this in three stages: first, a Live build to remove Kun Shao from outposts to prevent him from interfering; then, a second build to deploy the upgraded code and distribute the points; and finally, a third build to reintroduce Kun Shao so that you may redeem those points. As a thank you for all your patience, we’ll be giving everyone on the distribution list a free bump to the next-highest reward bracket.


So when will Kun Shao be reintroduced so we can redeem the points that you stated had been correctly calculated? Now that the system has been officially retired the next step would be to distribute the points.

^ thank you.

Tbh, I hate to sound like just one of the crowd, but things like this really do affect whether or not I'll buy GW2.

I love the community and will probably always be involved with it (especially if PvX survives the transition), but with the recent policy of "It's broken, let's remove it." and "Let's not tell them for X number of months and they'll forget." is just insulting.

At this point....I guess I've just gone from upset to apathetic. It shouldn't be a surprise considering the recent past, but that seems to make it worse.....

[jazilla]

People's concerns about this issue are totally justified, more so given the fact that we were told it is closing down after we were told we would get our points. Just because you don't care or agree, it doesn't change the fact that the Devs made it our right when they said we would be getting the points. Getting this announcement sans any information regarding said points is bad community relations. I don't fault Regina because she wasn't the one that said we would be getting the points! The people who said we would be getting the points are higher up on the food chain, and as such, they shouldn't be leaving Regina to hold the empty bag of points that were promised.

It's not a stretch to imagine this kind of thing happening with GW2 as well. The only difference is that I won't bite on the hook with the, "We're working on GW3, so we bagged this GW2 issue."

Again, just because you don't get a sour taste in your mouth because of this particular issue, it doesn't mean that those of us who do aren't justified because you disagree.

[Windf0rce]

Good riddance. ANet probably regreted badly the XTH introduction, anyway.

At first, great concept: lure more casual people into PvP scene, give some nice rewards to everyone.

However, as with most things dealing with human nature, it gets corrupt if any margin of exploit is allowed, an it happened. The 'hardcore' (psycho IMHO) players owning dozens of accounts to exploit the XTH rewards made it look like ANet itself was selling Gold to its players. Coupled with casuals hardly bothering/just plain forgetting, it only became another source and terrible rich distribution and grief.

Removal of HB, lack of resources, overall lack of interest in PvP by most of the player base: even more good reasons to take XTH down.

[Rekliss]

I don't think that would be reasonable at this point (to receive may's rewards) because with those rewards people will take advantage of the now-inflated market on the items; To be blunt it would not be fair at all and its too late now anyway.

Maybe a refund, but no reward.

[Karate Jesus]

Originally Posted by Rekliss

I don't think that would be reasonable at this point (to receive may's rewards) because with those rewards people will take advantage of the now-inflated market on the items; To be blunt it would not be fair at all and its too late now anyway.

Maybe a refund, but no reward.

A refund on what?

And they already said that they're going to give us those rewards, regardless. I doubt their integrity enough to believe that they wont uphold it, but that doesn't negate the fact that they said it.

[Rekliss]

Originally Posted by Silverblad3

I think folks are more upset about the way this is handle then 'milking' free stuff.

It is like taking your car that has a problem to the garage and they say sorry we cannot fix it because we are working on the next model. Come back and buy the new one.

GW2 does not have any customers, GW does, manage your customers and they will come but increasingly upset them and you will lose customers for GW2 when you do release it.

Removing features and content is not the way forward, and to be honest this is not about resources it is about money, what Anet is saying they are not prepared to pay to fix the XTH, come to GW2 though because we will treat you better? Joke.

Silver

Not quite right there buddy; it's more like:

Take the car back to the garage and they tell you "Damn man you abused the shit out of this car, that voids the warranty - sorry" I don't think if you go buy a new mercedes and drive it a million miles that they are gonna fix it for free.

I do however believe that these new funds we are putting into the game such as the costumes - that those monies are going to GW2 instead of paying those GW2 dev. guys to get over here to GW and fix a problem; they would rather trash it and work on GW2... not really high on my "Nice Job" list.

Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

A refund on what?

And they already said that they're going to give us those rewards, regardless. I doubt their integrity enough to believe that they wont uphold it, but that doesn't negate the fact that they said it.

Keys. GL with that - you should just be refunded the gold and be done with it.

[Silverblad3]

Not quite sure, XTH was implemented poorly and then supported poorly, going back to the mercedes..Sorry we made the car faulty and we wont fix it cos we are working on the next one.....

Abuse? That is rather strong, some folks did, some did not, most dont care it is the way they manage the issue.

W/E

Silver

[Xsiriss]

Finally. It was a bad concept anyway,now people will have to work for their platinum...

[Earth]

Could you guys keep KJ out of this? Thanks.

[Rocky Raccoon]

R.I.P. XTH, we abused while you were here, you are now in a better place.

[Another Felldspar]

I'm sorry to see it go -- it was fun to try to decide who to put in the top 8, going to observe and actually caring about the outcome, making a few side bets with guildies about who would get the most points, putting the reminders on the alliance forums and hearing who the allies were going with, making side bets on who would, proportionately, get the most cremes out of the chest -- it was good. It was fun.

The keys from May should be distributed.

[Chthon]

I could not care less about this. It was always a trivially unimportant side feature.

[Tullzinski]

Originally Posted by Another Felldspar

I'm sorry to see it go -- it was fun to try to decide who to put in the top 8, going to observe and actually caring about the outcome, making a few side bets with guildies about who would get the most points, putting the reminders on the alliance forums and hearing who the allies were going with, making side bets on who would, proportionately, get the most cremes out of the chest -- it was good. It was fun.

The keys from May should be distributed.

How dare you point out the fun things associated with XTH. You are not aware that removing XTH was about NOT letting lazy and greedy PVE players get "in" on the PVP rewards without doing PVP.

You will be scheduled for summary execution at a later date. /end sarcasm

Seriously though thanks for reminding people about some of the enjoyable aspects of XTH. Was fun while it was around.

[zwei2stein]

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

You... don't.

PvP titles aren't supposed to be easily maxable like PvE ones.

Curious that the only people with it maxxed are pvers with way too little life . Zkey (aka, "i haz golt, i buyz keyz") title has little to do with pvp skill or success but everything with having couple stacks of ectos, hence it is not pvp title.

[Mordiego]

XTH was implemented to increase sell rate of new accounts and aNet made a lot of ectos on it.
It has been removed coz it'd spoiled the game economy sooo badly.
I just don't understand all the lies behind the process...

[De Maximoff]

Originally Posted by Rekliss

I don't think that would be reasonable at this point (to receive may's rewards) because with those rewards people will take advantage of the now-inflated market on the items; To be blunt it would not be fair at all and its too late now anyway.

Maybe a refund, but no reward.

How would this not be "fair"? Anet said they had an accurate count of the points people were supposed to receive. Anet said they would distribute those points. How is this in anyway unfair?

It is both reasonable and fair for Anet to do what they already said they would do. Saying it would not be "fair" and "its too late now anyway" are your opinions not facts.

[vader]

Not surprised and a little disappointed but it is absolutely ridiculous that they couldn't fix the code for this. Anyone with any kind of programming experience could probably rewrite simple code for assigning points about a half hour. Its not that difficult.

[AlsPals]

Seems someone felt inclined to remove my comment. In any case, we knew this was gonna happen, lets be real. I repeat, it was welfare. On the other hand, it was damn fun to use a couple hundred Zkeys and pull dozens of Creme Brulees. I would rather roller beetle racing be more frequent as a concession....

[LazyLink]

Originally Posted by vader

Not surprised and a little disappointed but it is absolutely ridiculous that they couldn't fix the code for this. Anyone with any kind of programming experience could probably rewrite simple code for assigning points about a half hour. Its not that difficult.

yes, theorycoding, because theorycrafting works so well.

[Kc Quipor Ultra]

Well i think to fix the community i think ANET needs to release retail or beta THIS YEAR =) Else they will loss many loyal players =(