Look at what I didn't get today/QQ Bad luck thread

[Showtime]

TODAY I DIDNT GET A MINI after opening 180 royal gifts (over a stack all together).

Friend was complaining about their bad luck here. I said I probably had worse luck.

And then I got to thinking and thats never good. It's just math and if you open enough of something it should average out. With 2 accounts and 13 characters the best mini I got was a yr 2 gold in yr 4. Best bday mini I got right when they came out was a purple freezie. Not one green so far. I haven't got anything good off either the z-chest or good ole nick. I blew over a million on keys a wk or 2 before they gave you credit on them for the z-title so didn't even get pts. No el tonics etc. Did another few hundred k after and nothing. I gave up and decided to sell everything instead of gambling.

I had opened over 80 Royal Gifts and no mini over the past few weeks. Seemed like people were getting 1 in 50 or so. Mathematically it had to average out. I had 180 gifts sitting in storage and decided to see if luck or math would rule. Started opening thinking that by 20 or 30 I'd get a mini. 75 in and I had to start merching all those sweet expert salvage kits. 100 in and it didn't look good. 150 in and I knew it didn't matter and I wouldn't get any. Finished em up and now im full of superior ids, perfect salvage Kits, medals, rez scrolls, a couple sets of cons, and other crap. Has anyone else opened over a stack of royal gifts and not gotten a mini? LMAO! I've decided to keep opening everything as I get them. Hoping to shake the curse before gw2.

Still have 1k+ War supplies... maybe I should continue testing lol.

Oh and don't feel bad for me. I'm one of those guys who diversified into thing like Onyx and KUUNS (at their recent peak) lol. So this is nothing compared to those. Used to be pretty good at investing here... shoulda went into rare minis but thought they were too volatile.

So anyone having worse luck with gifts? How many gifts or z keys or rg's before you got something or still didn't. Cuz the math doesn't seem to add up.

[Lord Dagon]

lol ive opened probably 1k+ nick gifts(from buying and farming) and i still havent gotten my mini yakkington. ive gotten mini gwen doll.. but not the mini i acctually want. ive come to the conclusion that its better to sell the gifts and just buy the mini you want instead of wasting the stuff... i mean there will always be ppl opening gifts.. so why should i have to and get all the crap i DONT want? just food for thought <3

[Xr Cuun]

I've played for 5 years now, Well 56 months. Out of EVERYTHING all bday presents all gifts i've gotten NO minis better than white. Out of the gifts i got a walking stick. Z chest i've only gotten tomes and booze/party stuff and some crappy weapons

[Hybrid Meteora]

I can't really contribute to this thread as well as some others have, because I haven't kept track of all this stuff, plus I don't really like to gamble, but I've opened 22 different birthday gifts, and have gotten 19 white, 2 purple (both were second years), 0 gold, and 1 green, which was a bone dragon, and at the time they were worth ~70-80k.

[Karate Jesus]

Originally Posted by Tobi Madera

lol ive opened probably 1k+ nick gifts(from buying and farming) and i still havent gotten my mini yakkington. ive gotten mini gwen doll.. but not the mini i acctually want. ive come to the conclusion that its better to sell the gifts and just buy the mini you want instead of wasting the stuff... i mean there will always be ppl opening gifts.. so why should i have to and get all the crap i DONT want? just food for thought <3

I've done Nic every week except for 2-3 weeks. I've never gotten any of the gold/green weapons and I've never gotten a mini. Not once.

Same goes for every single chance based package-like item. Never gotten anything good from a coffer, from a birthday gift (all white minis), from a Thackeray gift, Wintersday gift, etc.

Oh, I got a Celestial Compass once from the zchest. Best thing I've ever gotten.

[Martin Alvito]

I open up a thread that is labeled "QQ thread" and I decide to leave it open. Must be getting soft after that vacation.

In truth, good topic.

OT: I once opened the ZChest 200 times for the title and got nothing worthy of resale other than a couple of Elite Tomes. Not even a weapon/focus/shield mod that could be resold.

Then my wife opened it 40 times, got a req 9 Healing Celestial Compass, and sold it for 80z. /rage

[Mexay]

So you guys are gunna rage when I tell you I've gotten a Cel compass from the Z chest, a perf demonic shield from it too (sold for 50k). A walking stick, EL cottontail, several Kegs and red rock candies from nich... birthday gifts i haven't been so lucky in. The best I got was probably a Purple... a Mini elf for my 2nd yr. :P I usually have bad luck from end chests etc. So yeh the whole time i've had maybe 10 REALLY GOOD drops... in 33 months of play.

[Marty Silverblade]

I've been playing 5 years and still haven't had a Superior Vigor rune drop. It's not a lot of money anymore but it would be nice, especially since I farmed Ettins extensively for them in 2005.

[Xiaquin]

Traveled for Nicholas religiously, with nothing really to show for it. Been slacking lately but picked it up again. No greens, no minis, nada.

Opened maybe 30-50 Royal Gift and squat there, too. Now I feel doomed as I sit on almost 80 I've accumulated, waiting to pull the trigger. I might just sell and buy the Livia I want. Meanwhile my fellow guild mate has scored two minis from them.

So far my biggest claim to fame was Law and Order drop not too long ago. I think it's my most valuable drop to date. If my history of good loot was a line graph, that spike would rise above a nearly flat line.

Side note: what's the word on superior vigor runes? I remember back in the day I got one, maybe two. I have not seen one, with my guild or any group, in years. To this day I am shocked at the rarity.

[insanethemadone]

well i have 8000 points in zaishen title and nothing but tomes and booze .....
About the sup vigor i got one in nm the other day on my way to doing one of the wanted quests.. and dropped from an ettin

[FengShuiDove]

Can't say I've opened any Royal Gifts, but I've gotten some decent stuff from Nic (got a Walking Stick and Ascalon Razor) and a few good things from Z-Chest (3 EL is about it).

Maybe it's perception though. I'm perfectly content with a Keg every 2 weeks or so or Disco Balls or Mysterious Tonics. Maybe Nic knows I appreciate him and gives me better stuff .

Even so, I do feel like I've lost more than I've gained from the Z-Chest. Nic is about break-even since I farm him about half of the weeks and buy the item the other half.

[Wolf2581]

I have done Nicholas every week except for one since it started, and the nicest things I have ever received are a vampiric dragon sword, an Ascalon razor, and a moss spider egg. After 338 royal gifts, I have received only two miniature Salmas and a lot of crap.

[Ugh]

Royal Gifts = no minis
Nick Gifts = lots of summoning stones, nothing else
Birthday Gifts = nothing better than a white
Zchest = nothing

[Eluvatar]

hum my best drop ever? proly a r10 obi edge from zchest, opend a stack of gifts of traveler got nothing better then candy and ale, still nothing from royal gifts, once thou from a friends account I got a green year 4 but thats the best.

[Neo Nugget]

I opened up my 5th year minipet today.

White Siege Devourer. I've only gotten one gold mini and haven't even had the pleasure of opening a present with a green mini.

Rawr.

[cosyfiep]

I have opened over 50 1st year bday gifts....the best I have done was 3 shiros--no rurik no bone dragon etc.....(I have deleted characters etc)....I have yet to get a green bday gift.....

now if you want dye drops, THOSE I get.....some accounts I think are just picked out for stuff----would explain lots (except my 2nd account also gets TONS of dyes--including the day I took my warrior out of pre--2 greens and a black, good thing I already had those on board).

nic wont give me a mini, I have only gotten one peacekeeper weapon (the peacekeeper)....so I do consider that lucky.

This last weekend I killed about 40 bosses---got ONE green (which I already had--podwhatevers fury)....

just is that way.

[Mustache Mayhem]

I've gotten rares from all parts of the game.. I used to be a farmer though- so I've had the voltaic spear drop.. bds.. frog scepter

plenty of eternal stuff from uw, chaos axes from fissure.. zodiacs in deep.. urgoz bow.. most of the boss greens..

recently got all 3 minis from opening royal gifts.. but I'll tell you guys a secret that I believe to be true

anet has only certain times when the rares will drop imo.. it's a certain time of day / day of the week.. I believe that's how they control the rarity instead of just a x% chance.. that's why you see 2 of the same gold weapon drop so often- it's more than coincidence esp if that weapon is rare.. so what I did is when people start posting in the royal gift thread about the mini they just got- opened all I had right then

it's the same with farming.. it used to be like clockwork when the game first came out- I remember farming golds in riverside.. I'd start the same time every day and sure enough right at that certain time the golds would start to drop like clockwork.. there is a drop rotation for that time of day on the chests/gifts/fortunes

now I'm not sure about today.. but it used to be all the mobs in an instance were assigned what they would drop.. not only that but you could see sometimes what the mob would drop because they would be wielding it

so you could gauge a 'crap' spawn by the first few mobs usually and rezone as a solo farmer

miss the old days really.. funny to see smite carrying an offhand in one of their claws.. but there it was xD

learn the times and you'll have the rares your after.. I've opened quite a few z chests myself and gotten rares- but that's about as random as it comes.. noone posts on those drop times they've gotten the el tonics, ect.. and it's expensive to plug away at it

my bad luck- recently opened over 50 gifts and no mini.. and I waited until I seen posts.. it's not an exact science by any means but I think most farmers can relate to my experience especially with the time of day

I like to think of the gifts/chests like a wheel that's spinning.. as it spins items are attached at any given time.. there are certain times there is no mini or other rares on the wheel- if you wait until there is a mini in the rotation.. then you just need enough gifts and open them in succession at an even pace and you'll have a much higher chance of hitting one (that wheel will of course have many more scrolls and other stuff you don't want on it- but at least your in the running)

nick on the other hand.. gotten plenty of red rocks and kegs- but never a mini or weapon (only have 1 account though).. those are pretty rare from what I've seen.. had to buy the vampiric sword and I never buy rares

[T3AMKILL]

Originally Posted by Showtime

TODAY I DIDNT GET A MINI after opening 180 royal gifts (over a stack all together).

Friend was complaining about their bad luck here. I said I probably had worse luck.

And then I got to thinking and thats never good. It's just math and if you open enough of something it should average out. With 2 accounts and 13 characters the best mini I got was a yr 2 gold in yr 4. Best bday mini I got right when they came out was a purple freezie. Not one green so far. I haven't got anything good off either the z-chest or good ole nick. I blew over a million on keys a wk or 2 before they gave you credit on them for the z-title so didn't even get pts. No el tonics etc. Did another few hundred k after and nothing. I gave up and decided to sell everything instead of gambling.

I had opened over 80 Royal Gifts and no mini over the past few weeks. Seemed like people were getting 1 in 50 or so. Mathematically it had to average out. I had 180 gifts sitting in storage and decided to see if luck or math would rule. Started opening thinking that by 20 or 30 I'd get a mini. 75 in and I had to start merching all those sweet expert salvage kits. 100 in and it didn't look good. 150 in and I knew it didn't matter and I wouldn't get any. Finished em up and now im full of superior ids, perfect salvage Kits, medals, rez scrolls, a couple sets of cons, and other crap. Has anyone else opened over a stack of royal gifts and not gotten a mini? LMAO! I've decided to keep opening everything as I get them. Hoping to shake the curse before gw2.

Still have 1k+ War supplies... maybe I should continue testing lol.

Oh and don't feel bad for me. I'm one of those guys who diversified into thing like Onyx and KUUNS (at their recent peak) lol. So this is nothing compared to those. Used to be pretty good at investing here... shoulda went into rare minis but thought they were too volatile.

So anyone having worse luck with gifts? How many gifts or z keys or rg's before you got something or still didn't. Cuz the math doesn't seem to add up.

that sucks :/ i got 3 from 20 gifts

[Lord Dagon]

/facepalm i completley forgot about royal gifts/zchest when i posted my earlier post.

first zchest drop.. was an el gel tonic.. i thought ok its green(i was a noob then) everyone has told me greens arent worth anything and i sold it to a guy for about 3k.

royal gifts i havent even bothered w/. there just isn't anything good other then the minis in there.. i mena you CAN get a mini but th chances are really really low.

oh and @mustache mayhem... that TBH sounds like a load of bull... i mean if there WAS a certain time of day u get better drops i think alot of people would have caught on by now... so it seems unlikely thats the case.(it'd be easier for those scripting guys anyway to do /percentage over certain times of days and such)

[Mustache Mayhem]

=] well you can take it from someone who's been there and had the drops happen.. I truely believe there are times when you have 0% chance of getting a certain drop