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Old Sep 15, 2010, 01:00 PM // 13:00   #1
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so i was reading a thread a few minutes back and now it's got me curious...i want to know if they will still /care about gw1 or if they will treat it like blizzard does with diablo 2 and give it a crappy update every 10 thousand years. what are your thoughts? i always figured after gw2 was released, say... a couple months, if it's not all buggy and what not a lot of devs would be able to return to gw1 and MAYBE we'll get some decent updates, but if gw2 needs a lot of maintenance maybe that won't be the case..

oh and inb4 gw is already dead.
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 02:41 PM // 14:41   #2
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i heard quite a few people saying they didn't like the sound of GW2 before all the hypedates e.t.c. and don't forget holiday events will always happen, and probably balances + additional content.
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 02:51 PM // 14:51   #3
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so i was reading a thread a few minutes back and now it's got me curious...i want to know if they will still /care about gw1 or if they will treat it like blizzard does with diablo 2 and give it a crappy update every 10 thousand years. what are your thoughts? i always figured after gw2 was released, say... a couple months, if it's not all buggy and what not a lot of devs would be able to return to gw1 and MAYBE we'll get some decent updates, but if gw2 needs a lot of maintenance maybe that won't be the case..

oh and inb4 gw is already dead.
That's already the case imo , we're getting a crappy update every 10 thousands years . Just count the number of content update this year , then remove the 2 crappiest ( i.e. henchmen contest and codex ) ... So , if there is no update now , i doubt there will be many while gw2 will be out .
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 03:17 PM // 15:17   #4
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/agree with "Missing HB" for the most part.
Guild Wars is already dead in so many ways, hardly anybody plays it and that's the sad truth. Yeah sure there are hundredzzzzz of people spamming in Kamadan 24/7, but that only goes as far as the Amercian Districts and to a lesser extent the German/French.
If you compare that to even 2 years ago it seems pretty pathetic, you could go into French or German or UK districts and have just as many as the American ones now pretty much. So by comparison to it's earlier days, GW1 has got 1 foot and two arms in the grave. Not to mention most people have just gotten completely bored of the game in general- there's only so much you can do, I know I'm just filling my HoM and doing the occasional fun PvE/PvP session (which is hard with all the super-builds and must-have attitudes).
So to answer your question, yes, GW1 will be pretty much dead-and-gone as a source of sustained entertainment by the time GW2 is released, cuz GW2 is gonna blow it and hopefully most other MMO's completely out of the water!
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 04:20 PM // 16:20   #5
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i think this is why john stumme(lead dude for gw1 content now) said that he wanted people to be able to take 7 heroes. he didnt say that it was definite but it makes sense seeing as people will still want to get all of their HoM stuff done to transfer to gw2, and if they still want to play they will be able to with 7 heroes. he also said there are other things they are doing with heroes soon. i think it means they will be able to use pve only skills or have access to the WiK skills that some of those NPC's had.
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 04:28 PM // 16:28   #6
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i think this is why john stumme(lead dude for gw1 content now) said that he wanted people to be able to take 7 heroes.
Someone said that he likes the idea of 7 heroes or something. Then Regina came and basically said "nah, it's too good for you, you won't get that".
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 04:44 PM // 16:44   #7
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I will still be playing guildwars when that new game (not even going to give it a 2 name) comes out. From what I have seen I WONT be ABLE to play it---watching the video clips makes me ill (as do most video games and gw did a bit when I started).....I still see no reason to jump and removing 2ndaries and having your skill bar picked as well as no monks just removes everything I think of as guildwars from the game.

so yeah, we really havent gotten much of any kind of update in a long time---that is the way it will be most likely since I doubt they will move the 4 people still working on gw from it after that other thing comes out either.
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 05:09 PM // 17:09   #8
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I honestly felt that GW would continue on after GW2 was released. GW was exactly what I was looking for in a game and to this day, I don't know of any other that I'd want to play. When they announced GW2 I was happy. When I saw the graphics I was happy. When I saw the gameplay I was skeptical. When I heard about the game mechanics my heart broke. I think there's still a lot of us left who like what Arenanet created and we know that the new game isn't anything remotely close. So hopefully enough of us will stick around for this unique game even though it's getting old. Hopefully just enough content will be released to keep us here.
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 05:29 PM // 17:29   #9
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All comes down to money rolling in i am afraid.

If enough new players keep joining and enough old players shell out for extras it will keep going at least for a while.
I doubt it will reach 10 years though or anything like it.

Games that run completely from the hosts machines without servers have longer lives, I still play some games that are years older than GW.

I will be on GW2 most days and gw1 occasionally to keep the files updated check the account is intact and maybe play a little, certainly not enough time to devote time to both.
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 05:36 PM // 17:36   #10
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Someone said that he likes the idea of 7 heroes or something. Then Regina came and basically said "nah, it's too good for you, you won't get that".

I think unless they want GW to totally die the addition of more heroes is inevitable. I would imagine they would still sell the game after GW2 release and for new people coming in to buy the game what if the population is low and there is no one to form a party with? In particular the elite areas where you cannot take a full party. I know myself would be highly skeptical to buy a new game if I knew right off the bat it may be hard for me to get into certain areas of the game.

I am sure some guilds will continue but for the casual player that doesn't want or is not capable of joining a guild it will become stale very fast and I don't see why A-net would want to alienate themselves that way. The option to group with people will still be there and I do not see the complete collapse of PUGs.

GW doesn't have to die unless A-net chooses it to.
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 05:53 PM // 17:53   #11
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If the HoM rewards are worth it I may play GW1 to finish my treasure hunter but if it's not then it's bye bye for me.
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 06:15 PM // 18:15   #12
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GuildWars for me will never be dead after GW 2... When they gonna give me 7 hero's

oeps sry
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 06:27 PM // 18:27   #13
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Hmmm, it is quite interesting how skeptical some people are about GW2. I can see if GW1 is all you like, then you aren't gonna like GW2, but really all the changes they are gonna make are quite necessary. No idea why you don't like "furries", it's gonna be one of the best bits! I do feel sorry for those people who feel dissapointed with GW2, but really GW1 had so many things wrong with it, a lot of stuff really needed to be done (I could go on about how I hate monks but that's going one step too far off topic!".

So I suppose I should revise my original thoughts. Guild Wars will probably not be "dead" anytime soon, there's probably gonna be a few devoted players still going on, and a few re-visiting GW2 fans. Plus I would assume that the game is going to be functioning fine without many players on, as is the nature of the game. In a more literal sense, it won't die because Anet promised it They will continue to update the game and hold events/festivals for the remaining players, so you don't have to worry at all about literally not being able to play the game
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 06:30 PM // 18:30   #14
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If I do buy Guild Wars 2, it'll likely be a side thing. Guild Wars is where all the fun is. Guild Wars 2 is a different game isn't near out yet, so in a way it's silly to be asking this.
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 06:38 PM // 18:38   #15
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GW1 and GW2 will play very differently.

I expect GW1 to have players for awhile longer.
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 08:02 PM // 20:02   #16
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treat it like blizzard does with diablo 2 and give it a crappy update every 10 thousand years. .
Well believe it or not about 30000 people seem to be actively playing that game still and the fact that they are there shows that there are at least 30000 people who enjoy playing a game that doesn't get molested by updates constantly.

As for Guild Wars, time will tell what happens to it. Ive got a feeling it will end up like diablo 2.
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 08:16 PM // 20:16   #17
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I see valid opinions expressed in this thread, but also some anxiety... anxiety that always comes with change. I predict many of the people that say they don't like what they see coming in gw2 will decide later that they like it. Or not. But they are wired to resist change. It's human nature.

For me, I can honestly say I'm looking forward to gw2, though learning a whole new game is challenging for me, as I don't have the time or the sharp hand-eye coordination I had when I was younger :-) But learn I will... fun I will have.

As for gw... They have integrated it to the extent that completing your HoM (and probably GWAMM) will grant you goodies in gw2. So for a little while, there should still be some activity in gw after gw2 launches. pvp already seems dead. More dead is likely.

The content in gw shouldn't need a whole lot of maintenance after the gw2 launch. I expect what you see is what you get after a certain point (like diablo II). Most of the skill updates in gw were resulting from imbalance/overuse in pvp. That will likely no longer be a motivation. Economy-changing skills in pve also were a problem (Ursan, Shadowform, etc), and other updates were geared toward breathing life into certain professions for use in pve. How much of that do you really think will be needed once the majority of players have moved on to gw2?

I submit to you that skill updates will be extremely rare. The only content updates you will see are festivals (already written... someone just needs to click "run"). Over time, they will need less server space allocated to it, and they will devote less marketing dollars toward attracting new gw players. Gw will gain some new players from the new gw2 players that decide to get gw1 to earn the goodies. There will also be new players coming from the dramatic price drop of the gw series that is likely to come after the gw2 launch.

So do I think the game will still be running in 2 years? Yes. Will it be boring? Yes. Will Mehnlo still be prioritizing the healing of minions over party members? Probably.
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 10:07 PM // 22:07   #18
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If the HoM rewards are worth it I may play GW1 to finish my treasure hunter but if it's not then it's bye bye for me.
Same here. Only difference is that i already said bye. Last time i really played is when WiK content came out.
Also 80% of my in game friends got banned in 3700 banstorm, 20% just gave up
That's why i hang around forum...
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Old Sep 15, 2010, 10:14 PM // 22:14   #19
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It's so much better now.

It doesn't look like GW2 will be a better Guild Wars, it will be different game. I don't see myself playing a game with furries and hipsters where half of my skillbar is picked for me and any meaningful customization is dead.
I agree 100%, the way they describe defending towns from centaur attacks sounds about as interesting as feeding a neopet daily.
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Old Sep 16, 2010, 12:17 AM // 00:17   #20
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I agree 100%, the way they describe defending towns from centaur attacks sounds about as interesting as feeding a neopet daily.
Apposed to adding "Go kill X" or "Fetch Y" I think almost any sane person would take "Defend this garrison!"...
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