R/N Solo Underworld (Clearing the Chamber)

[Impy]

RANGER UNDERWORLD SOLO

This is my first real post so be gentle with me !

Let me tell you a story – my ranger has completed most of the storyline missions/bonuses and quests except for the Titan Quests and Final Assault in SF.
I completed most of them with henchies as this suited my style of play.

I then looked for new challenges and started trapping in the Underworld – 3 ecto on my first run and I was hooked.

I have done 5 man –doddle
4 man –doddle
3 man –straight forward
2 man (when someone left) –fine if both know what they are doing.
Thus of course got me thinking – can you do it alone? For the challenge and excitement but also all the drops are yours!

I had seen the OATH SHOT builds for trapping the Underworld but couldn’t get it to work for me. Also the VIM (Victory Is Mine) build –managed a few Aatxes this way but not at all reliably.

The purpose of this post is to show that with patience and ingenuity there are other builds that work.

I can reliably clear the chamber of Aatxes and Grasping Darknesses.

The build is currently in its final development and tweaking stage. There are 7 definite skills on the bar at the moment with the 8th one questionable.
The Smite Crawlers are giving me problems so the 8th skill may need to focus on overcoming them – if we can.

It is quite slow going as it is a trapping build and rushing tends to lead to a trip back to TOA !

Is it very profitable ? Not really. Probably get an ecto every 2-3 runs but I also do it for the challenge .The ectos are a nice bonus though.

Is It as good as an invincimonk for the UW ? Of course not, it wasn’t meant to be.

LINK TO VIDEO

http://files.filefront.com/RN_Solo_UNDERWORLDwmv/;5143060;;/fileinfo.html

The link may not work first time (problems with Filefront). Just keep trying it and it should work !

BUILD DETAILS
The build is a R/N –fully ascended with 200 attribute points –distributed as follows :

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9963/rnbuildforweb5sy.jpg

EQUIPMENT
Full Druids armour for extra energy

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5602/rnweaponforweb4um.jpg

Grim Cesta From Sir Pohl Sanbert in the Arid Sea on a ridge overlooking the City ruins –requires 5 dune burrower jaws.
Truncheon From Arliss Vaughn in Skyward Reach at the portal to the Scar – requires % iridescent griffon wings.


SKILL SET
1. Energising Wind
2. Quickening Zephyr
3. Barbed Trap
4. Dust Trap
5. Flame trap
6. VIRULENCE (Elite)
7. Whirling Defense
8. Enfeeble

The 8th skill is still being tested – throw dirt, enfeebling blood, faintheartedness, mark of pain, shadow of fear or storm chaser may all be useful alternatives.


TECHNIQUE
The technique is to set up EW and QZ then to lay as many traps as possible. Then to set up EW and QZ again and pull the mob into the traps. Cast VIRULENCE as soon as the mob is suffering from any condition and try to keep up Virulence as it also causes weakness –very helpful against the Aatxe’s damaging hits. Enfeeble is very useful as it causes weakness and as this is a condition it allows you to cast Virulence immediately after. So you can keep the Aatxes permanently weakened.

After the first set of traps had gone off the new AOE AI causes the mobs to flee and return –whilst they flee the first time –drop FT and BT. After they flee from the FT the drop DT and BT .This way they are nearly always blind ie alternate FT and DT as they flee and return. NOTE the new shorter duration of DT makes it trickier than it used to be.

The static groups of Aatxes are on a leash centred on their starting point –ie they don’t follow you too far –this is useful to use BT (cripple +bleed) followed by Virulence if used at the limit of their leash. You can play with them !

The patrolling Aatxes are not limited in such a way and can not be ‘played with’ as described above. The Ghosts can be useful to hide behind and trap as you are protected but the traps still work.

When a Dying Nightmare appears just wand it to death (2 hits from a customised wand usually does it) or it will interrupt your trap laying.

Grasping Darknesses are quite easy. Just place as many traps as possible using the standard method and lure them as a group. They should die in one hit most of the time. If there are 1 or 2 stragglers just wand or trap as necessary.

I am not aware of anyone posting a similar build as I have been scouring the forums for UW ranger builds. If it already exists somewhere I apologise.

Good luck and any help with the Smites would be much appreciated !! :D

[got lah]

Good Job with the build, never would have thought of putting virulence into that =0.

How long does an average run take, and drops in chamber alone arent too good are they?

[Impy]

Good Job with the build, never would have thought of putting virulence into that =0.

How long does an average run take, and drops in chamber alone arent too good are they?

You are right -the drops are quite poor generally except for the occassional ecto from the Aatxes. The price of ecto is now alot lower than it was a few months ago aswell.
The run is quite fun though -pitting yourself 1 on 1 ( or occassionally 1 on 3 ) with the Aatxes.
It really isn't a money maker - just to say you can do it :D

[freddo]

nice :)
I am tired of using my barrage ranger, I'll try your virulence build asap
looks fun :)

[Peligro Puro]

I use a simlar build to solo underworld, but I use the Dying nightmares to my advantage instead of just killing them off.

[Beat_Go_Stick]

NJ :D

I'm always impressed by people who come up with builds to solo the more difficult places and don't mind sharing :)

[Lint]

This seems painfully slow.

[Impy]

This seems painfully slow.

Thank you for your input Lint. As I said initially 'It is quite slow going as it is a trapping build '.

I look forward to seeing your FAST Aatxe Ranger solo build. ;)

[Lint]

Thank you for your input Lint. As I said initially 'It is quite slow going as it is a trapping build '.

I look forward to seeing your FAST Aatxe Ranger solo build. ;)

Dont worry, you will, you will all see. I have my own way to solo UW Smiters and chambers. Soon ill post it.

[BlacK.IcE]

Nice work

[Shadow-Hunter]

Very nice guide ^^ tryed it, and think i need some practise with it xD.. also, good vidoe..

~Shadow

[ShadowFyre]

With a few practice runs I was able to get it down pat. After 5 runs last night I earned a total of 6 ecto. Not bad for 5 runs.

[Impy]

:eek: Wow ShadowFyre 6 ecto after 5 runs -thats good going !

I'm glad some of you are finding it enjoyable and profitable. It does take a bit of practice - its not as easy as Remmeh's FOW forest build unfortunately.

Got my Fissure armour last night with a PUG so i'm a happy bunny ! :D

[Nestaron]

I have nothing todo today so i'm going to try and have ago at mastering this build... Wish me luck. :P

I really suck at this... Can't get past the first 2 aatxes. Get them nearly down then bam 2 hits i'm dead. Any special technique that i'm missing as i'm doing it exactly like in the video but alternating virulence.

[-=Mick=-]

i try to load ur video but this page comes up saying "page not found":( . plz explain

[remmeh]

:eek: Wow ShadowFyre 6 ecto after 5 runs -thats good going !

I'm glad some of you are finding it enjoyable and profitable. It does take a bit of practice - its not as easy as Remmeh's FOW forest build unfortunately.

Got my Fissure armour last night with a PUG so i'm a happy bunny ! :D

i can do that build in my sleep. it's so boring.
i haven't done it in months. :x

[webpilotz2]

"ootz.. ootz.. baby!"

that vid you got there rocks! :)
really appreciate the time for editing the vid cap. :)

kudos!

- g

[Retribution]

Wow this is a nice post, pretty sweet you thought of the build and shared, where's your fast ranger attaxe solo build lint?? No more smack talk after the topic "died"? Seriously at least the OP shares, where you just try to undermine him.

[4runner]

this build might work in amatz basin!!! Run to try!!!!!!!


Thanks!

[dorkxd]

Keep getting 404 error on the link. Tried for about 20 minutes now :p
Really looking forward to giving this a try

[Impy]

Keep getting 404 error on the link. Tried for about 20 minutes now :p
Really looking forward to giving this a try

Hi -try the link now - filefront 'lost' the file. Just uploaded again -hope it works ok now !

[Undead Preacher]

okay... Haven't tried it yet but of coarse i will :)

Looks very good... One question I would have is why are you choosing a wand and offhand over a staff... I would recommend a Death Magic staff... collecters is 20/20.. then with an Insightful Staff head its +15 energy compared to the 12 from offhand.. you can still kill the nightmeres the same way... and then you can get a staff wrap of Fortitude or Defense, whatever you prefer... for the area the +7 armor (vs physical) would prob. be better than the one of defense.

Also..is your 10 points into Death Magic really worth it... I know your using it for your Elite... which I was a bit hesitant about...is Disease and weakness worth your elite slot.. lets see!

Your inflicting the following..
Barbed Trap~ Damge + Cripple + Bleeding
Dust Trap~ Damage + Blind
Flame Trap~ Damage + Burning
Virulance~ Weakness + Disease

You Could be inflicting the Following..
Barbed Trap~ Damage + Cripple + Bleeding
Dust Trap~ Damage + Blind
Flame Trap~ Damage + Burning
Vipers Nest~ Damage + Poison
Spike Trap {e}~ Damage + Cripple + knockdown


The whole point of a trapper Build is spike damage... so my first suggestion would be to max out WS... always when trapping. My next suggestion would be Lose the Death Magic... your keeping it for weakness and disease... weakness might lower their attack dmg but does not inflict there health in any way... so your elite isn't causing any dmg except for disease which gives them a -4 health degen for I dunno how long with death at 10... I believe the -4 from poison and the damage from vipers nest.... without it being an elite would be much more worth it. Then you also get the full effect of the spike when they are knocked down from your elite trape :)

Also with the additonal spike damage from the extra traps the smites are no problem... so you can compete the entire smite run and not just the chamber. I have also messed around a bit replacing Spike Trap {e} with Trappers Focus {e} and keep laying trap after trap and can still finish the entire run. This makes it more profitable seeing the smite drops are better and you run into 1-2 chest per run! I also use the "Trapper" staff from the ascolon quest seeing i'm old school and its +18 energy... I also carry Flints which is +15 energy and +30 health in case I take some damage!

Also... your putting points into curses for more weakness.... I would also lose that.

Well, just some suggestions!

[Kcp]

The build was posted b4 factions preacher as far as I know.

[Undead Preacher]

The build was posted b4 factions preacher as far as I know.
didn't know that, well with the traps I listed solo-trapping the uw smite run is no problem at all, still kinda slow but very effeciant

[Xiaxhou of Trinity]

Yes as Impy states that the ecto are selling for less (it was going for 5-5.5k just before factions came out). Well I'll try as a ViM trapper. R/W represent! Now maybe I can solo UW and FoW with my R/W. How could I ever consider deleting my preciousssss?

[Undead Preacher]

~retracted~

[watrah]

can u post the BUILD DETAILS again because the Image dose not work

thx

[slimreb]

Very nice build and wonderful thinking.

Have you thought of using Mark of Pain in your build for some more added spike damage from the traps? I have used MoP for a bit on my trapping farm runs (though not in UW) and it works wonders along with the standard traps.

[jaykill2003]

hi m8 and thx alot for your build i love my ranger but if i dont go with him at uw2
is not so good for farming because i ll do all the farms in M55 or N55 ou Warior but your build is very good thinked at and very very fun :) i like so much the ideea to combining ranger with death necro . it works fine and you did a very nice job--> keep discoveying builds like that you gived my ranger the smile again :)

[Thallandor]

Thanks for sharing with the community and fellow ranger fanatics. Good job.

[jaykill2003]

hi can i ask you plase with witch program you dit your video and a guide how to use it thx alot(fraps getting me really nervous now :'( )

[Impy]

Also..is your 10 points into Death Magic really worth it... I know your using it for your Elite... which I was a bit hesitant about...is Disease and weakness worth your elite slot.. lets see!

Virulance~ Weakness + Disease

... so your elite isn't causing any dmg except for disease which gives them a -4 health degen for I dunno how long with death at 10... I believe the -4 from poison and the damage from vipers nest.... without it being an elite would be much more worth it. Then you also get the full effect of the spike when they are knocked down from your elite trape

Thanks for your input everyone.

I'm not sure how this ended up in the farming forum - it wasn't meant to be a farming build. Just a ranger build for soloing the Aatxes !

The beauty of VIRULENCE is that it causes weakness,disease AND poison . So with 1 spell you get -8 degen and weakness so you can take a few hits from the Aatxes.
I'm sure it can be improved especially with some of the new factions skills and items. Undead Preacher - i'll give your tips a go !
I do like the benefit weakness gives you against the Aatxes as they somtimes still hit you even when blind.

Hi Jaykill2003 - I just used good old Windows Movie Maker and captured the action mainly with fraps.

[Corcky54]

Not to change the subject or anything, but whats the song on the video? I like it. =D

[Impy]

A few people have asked that - its Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss by The Bloodhound Gang on the album Hefty Fine. Glad you liked it ! :)

[beltran13579]

how can u kill the smites when they use restore condition

[danairat]

Question: Isn't Virlurence also cause you decease when mobs near you ? Not sure because in PVP it does, in PVE when i use theskill hence got the effect but i didnt'

[Arkantos]

Question: Isn't Virlurence also cause you decease when mobs near you ? Not sure because in PVP it does, in PVE when i use theskill hence got the effect but i didnt'

In PvE, disease will spread only amongst the enemies of the originator.
In PvP, disease will spread amongst all players on the battlefield that come into close proximity, regardless of what side they are on.

Basically, no.

[drupal]

I have to revive the thread :P

I tried the build and it really rocks, I made down a few aatxes but I can't take these mobs (2 aatxes). How do you handle this?

[ibsta]

Wow this is a nice post, pretty sweet you thought of the build and shared, where's your fast ranger attaxe solo build lint?? No more smack talk after the topic "died"? Seriously at least the OP shares, where you just try to undermine him. cheked her/his posts dunno who it is, apperantly she never said anythihg smart rather than say evrything is easy and shes bored of guild wars and wants to give away her account and stuff. so that solo uw build faster htan his was talking out of his/her ass. Nice build m8

[Theocrat]

With the release of Nightfall came the ability to create a staff that gives a bonus of twenty energy (as long as your health is above 50%, of course), which is a small yet welcome improvement over the previous maximum of eighteen energy from the famous "Trapper's Staff". Perhaps I will give this build a go after I pick up one of those new staves... I always have loved trapping. :D

[Bloodied Blade]

I'll have to cap Virulence over the break and give this a whirl...I'm DLing the vid right now.

[bored-.-bored]

I need to cap virulance also best get my rager threw the southen shiverpeak missions:P

[«Ripskin]

Sorry, but I'd much rather do solo uw with a rit :(

[bored-.-bored]

I havnt got rit so I use my VwK warrior build or 105hp SoA monk with ilsionary weapon and scythe just testing other builds ouy:P

[Riceboi]

Sorry, but I'd much rather do solo uw with a rit :(


RITUALIST power baby!!! WOOO ;)

[Bloodied Blade]

I can R/Me it around 5 - 10 min slower than VwK (due to spirit recharge & having to avoid CFs)...just wanna try out R/N.

[MrSlayer]

I have alot of trouble with the R/Me famine solo. Can't tank that much insane damage. How do you pull it off?

[Crazyvietguy]

I have alot of trouble with the R/Me famine solo. Can't tank that much insane damage. How do you pull it off?

You must be joking me...

First off, WHY would you ressurect this thread!! the last post was december of last year its been upwards to 2-3 months since this build was even considered.

2nd, The famine solo doesnt even work anymore since SV/AV took the heavy beating. And was R/Me ever capable of soloing UW with famine? I think Bloodied Blade was using traps. Hope you didnt waste more than 10k testing a famine solo.
/laugh

I hope you're more intelligent in real life

[Jade Zephyr]

You must be joking me...

First off, WHY would you ressurect this thread!! the last post was december of last year its been upwards to 2-3 months since this build was even considered.

2nd, The famine solo doesnt even work anymore since SV/AV took the heavy beating. And was R/Me ever capable of soloing UW with famine? I think Bloodied Blade was using traps. Hope you didnt waste more than 10k testing a famine solo.
/laugh

I hope you're more intelligent in real life

I haven't read any other comments in this thread than this yet, but all i can say is "I hope you're less of a dickhead in real life"

[Karel]

how about a N/R? can he do this, since there is no expertise skill

[Trevor The Wave]

Yay for reviving a 1 year old thread, and no, Necros cannot use this build because their whirling defenses wouldn't last long enough.

[AscalonWarrior]

Yay for reviving a 1 year old thread, and no, Necros cannot use this build because their whirling defenses wouldn't last long enough. Last post was posted 12.3 (dd.mm) so not a year old :)

[mr_groovy]

You must be joking me...

First off, WHY would you ressurect this thread!! the last post was december of last year its been upwards to 2-3 months since this build was even considered.

2nd, The famine solo doesnt even work anymore since SV/AV took the heavy beating. And was R/Me ever capable of soloing UW with famine? I think Bloodied Blade was using traps. Hope you didnt waste more than 10k testing a famine solo.
/laugh

I hope you're more intelligent in real life

Lolz I farmed I don't know how many ecto'z with the R/Me sv/av build. And yes it still works. ;)

[blurmedia]

http://www.hookahforum.com/uploads/1165808825/gallery_2063_3_17264.jpg
^classic

[wsmcasey]

Damn it! I read the whole first page before I realized it was from 2006.


grrrrrr...........:mad:

[Mr.Bimble]

Ah the good old days! Of course back then I'd just started to play,so knew absolutely nothing, Sadly I'm not much better,but I do have some good online mates

[Mr.Bimble]

Ah the good old days! Of course back then I'd just started to play,so knew absolutely nothing, Sadly I'm not much better,but I do have some good online mates

[angmar_nite]

http://www.hookahforum.com/uploads/1165808825/gallery_2063_3_17264.jpg
^classic
^classic indeed.

*filler*

[Abedeus]

Who cares about your good old days?

[Flem]

there are a lot of @ssholes on this forum.

[My Lipgloss is Cool]

Yeah, but more people who just enjoy dead threads remaining dead.

[Flem]

Wait, so just because someone hasn't posted in the thread in a a couple months, then the topic is no longer relevant? What about a new player, or someone new to the forums? Why can't they add to the convo.?

[My Lipgloss is Cool]

He wasn't adding anything...He made a comment that had no significance to anyone, which did nothing but bump a thread which had no interest in it. If he had said something, I don't know, relevant most people wouldn't have had an issue with it.

[Flem]

He wasn't adding anything...He made a comment that had no significance to anyone, which did nothing but bump a thread which had no interest in it. If he had said something, I don't know, relevant most people wouldn't have had an issue with it.

Ok, I see your point. I retract.

[MisterB]

This thread has been necroed twice, now, and the build in the OP no longer works. The last bump did not contribute anything whatsoever.

Close, please.

[dubiel005]

^ ivan ooze avatar classic. made me remember the good old days lol >.<