Ranger-Grawl Farm(Unraveled)

[I Might Avenge U]

8/14/07 - This Build Was Supposedly nerfed, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK

I'm preety bored right now so I felt like helping you people to learn how to grawl farm.Grawl have the highest drop rate of grawl gear,(or so I've been told by a friend) So the chance to get rare armors seems to be preety good. Well I dont know about the amount of rares your going to get ,but you'd be prty surprised on the drops.I've gotten many drops,but my best so far have been a superior vigor rune,and a black dye. So This is my build and stats I use:

R/N(finnally a build for R/N!)
Oath Shot
Throw dirt
Dodge
Whirling defense
Dryaders defense
Troll Ungent
Mark of pain
Edge of Extinction(EoE)

That is how it is set up on my skill bar.
Now for Stats

Wilderness Survival:15
Expertise:8
Beastmastery:16
Curses:5

I did my desert 15 attribute quest and that helps alot

you must have your beastmastery mask on and it must have a Superior beastmastery rune it it!

you also need:
A wilderness survival mask
Sup Wilderness Survival
any vigor rune(I suggest Major vigor, it is fairly inexpensive)
and a minor expertise rune

You also need the zone Port Sledge

Ok Now that you have finnally gotten all of your Skills and items its time to Farm those MoFo's!

Here is a basic outline of what you need to do:

1. put on your beastmastery mask(your hp should be 401 with a major vigor on)

2. go to Whittmanys folly

3. go out with out aggroing the grawls on the hills

4. lay your EoE(it should be at 50 Dmg)

5. switch to Wilderness Survival mask(your troll ungent should be at +10 regen)

6. Here's the fun part! go up to the little ridge thing where there are two little hills.Put on a troll ungent and hit dodge.Go through the little hill thing and kinda curve right a bit.Be sure to hit dodge right after troll so you dont lose aggro.

7. Rock music please, aggro as many grawls as possible with out hitting the boss in front of you. Then take a sharp left(if troll and dodge run out hit dyaders)and keep going.

8. as your running you will see a boss right next to a hill(hit Whirling when dryaders runs out).Go to the top of the hill(NOT THE FIRST HILL THE SECOND ONE!!!) and you should have EoE in range.

9.(this is the really hard part) Before you hit the top of the hill hit TAB and you throw dirt on the closest monster.Then oath shot.TAB again and use throw dirt and whirling defense again. Then TAB again to target the closet monster(make sure its the closest!) and use mark of pain. Now you aggroed enough ranged grawl they should die very quickly.Most of the time a few grawl and the boss you get wont die so you have to loot fast!

Tips & Suggestions:

1. When you first go out hold control and go kinda near the hill. If you get the ele boss(Alena pekkek) rezone.

2. It is alot faster to rezone than to travel and go out.

3. when you First start to aggro, aggro as many as possible when you go left.

4. The Monk boss (something Wulpup) can heal area so he takes awhile to do.

5. Try and avoid getting posion arrow on you if you get ranger boss(salani ippipi)

All Possible bosses(Ranked hardest to kill to easiest)
1.Ele-Alena Pekkek(rezone if you have him)
2.Ranger-Salani ippipi
3.Monk-Ilupo wupwup(or something like that)
4.Saakok Yapyawl(probly misspeled)
5.Karobo Dimdim(proly misspelled 2)


This Farm is very hard(allot harder to master than griiffion farming:) ).So there you guys go.I hope this guide is very useful. If any1 wants to kinda see how its done you can always whisp me in the game at I Might Avenge U and I could tell upu or give you a little demon stration.Anyone who uses this guide, please put some imput on suggestions to better it or just give imput on your drops.Have fun!!

P.S. The Damage is amazing once you pull it off.If any1 need help feel free to post:) .
http://files.filefront.com/RangerFarmwmv/;4937493;;/fileinfo.html (my farm vid)

[.killjoy]

A map may help of your area, i know what you are talking about since i use to farm there with my 55 monk :0

[Jack Valmont]

Whitman's Folly, right outside Droknar's Forge and home to Port Sledge.

Good fun for a R/Mo

[ghostlyranger]

http://media.putfile.com/Bodies_000181

[Jack Valmont]

That video was amazing.

[Sylvanas Deathbow]

Amazin video!

[SnoopJeDi]

Jesus.

[Megla Zero]

^^ what they said

[Nero]

wtf

COOLEST VID EVER

[Chaos Eryx]

When as the video made? They didn't seem to run from SoW....

[SnoopJeDi]

I tried it a few times (with miserable failure, naturally), but they didn't really run from SoW.

[fatpay]

The video was awsome, but the build doesn't work since the AoE update they all scatter once they take dmg from it. How old is the movie? Yes I did try this with my ranger.

[Shaz]

The OP build does work, I use something similar here (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1083424&postcount=19). They do run from Mark of Pain and Whirling if they stand next to you too long. But not all of them will run and you will kill enough to start a chain reaction. What I do is once I Oath Shot I put on Lightning Reflexes right away to cancel out Whirling, so they will come to you again, and then Throw Dirt, Troll, MoP again on some thing else, and then Whirling.

[Kcp]

You can farm those grawl with any ranger, the secondary is unimportant. The damage dealt from whirling defense is all you need to trigger the EoE bomb. I mainly farm them for skill points for my ranger with the 30 second double xp merchant scroll. Easy 1/2 a lvl per couple minute run. I use a pure ranger build to bomb them. Plant EoE @ 50 damage per kill, switch to superior runed expertise mask for the whirling defense kill. Probably the easiest mass killing per time spent in the game.

The drops are alright.....nothing really to brag about besides the occasional rare necro staff/offhand/wand or rune. Easiest place to trigger the anti farm message if you get too carried away.

You can kill the bosses occassionally too depending on the amount of normal grawl around at time of chain reaction. I would avoid the Ele boss since glimmering mark and lightning damage = blindness, blindness and Oath shot is something to be careful with.

[TehTomato]

I don't think the extra miniscule damage the sup beastmastery rune provides is worth the minus 75 health, ones that EoE bomb is triggered, it could be doing 10 damage ber hit, it would STILL floor those grawls.

[Kcp]

With whirling defense, throw dirt, and troll ungent it's kinda like try to kill me. The -75 hp from a superior rune is not a big deal. use a bow with 30 hp upgrade if the -75 health scares you. More EoE damage= faster kill.

[karunpav]

http://media.putfile.com/Bodies_000181

Holy

Effin

God.

[pi!!ow]

might i inquire if this is still a viable build?

[ghostlyranger]

it still work, but not same as before when they didnt run from whirling.

i just do it for fun, not really a farming thing, cause it is quite depend on spawn.

[Anarion Silverhand]

AoE skills does work. Since the grawls pile up on you, the outer grawls won't be affected by the AoE skills and continue to block the ones being hit. As for secondary profession, any can be used. I usually go R/Me and use Ether Feast. Whirling Defence is dmg enough to start the chain reaction.

[SirShadowrunner]

I tried this a few times last night, the grawls went down ok, but the grawl crones
spread out and stay away, that was a problem, so went to the ice tooth caves and
practiced on the minotaurs so I get the hang of the build, one thing, can the grawl crones remove the hex? I have trouble getting lots of hit numbers showing up
consisently, thx for sharing the build....

:)

[XvArchonvX]

I don't think the extra miniscule damage the sup beastmastery rune provides is worth the minus 75 health, ones that EoE bomb is triggered, it could be doing 10 damage ber hit, it would STILL floor those grawls.
I believe that you only where the sup BM mask when you cast EoE. After that you switch to a different mask before you begin actually attacking.

[fgarvin]

Just wondering, as a Ranger noob, Whirling Defense states that when a projectile is blocked blah, blah blah. Regarding the video, I'm guessing the projectiles in question are from the Crones?

Remember, complete Ranger noob here....

[Megla Zero]

Just wondering, as a Ranger noob, Whirling Defense states that when a projectile is blocked blah, blah blah. Regarding the video, I'm guessing the projectiles in question are from the Crones?

Remember, complete Ranger noob here....

In the video he was using Symbol of Wrath to produce such a large amount of numbers on the screen, in addition to Whirling. Whirling works too, since the arrows come from the archers on the outside (which you can see casting) as well as any wanders since that counts as a projectile as well... I've had dodge evade some of the wands while I'm running, only reason I know.

[Anarion Silverhand]

For me, Whirling Defence is enough dmg. If you have trouble staying alive, I suggest you bring ward against melee or another healing skill.

[Shantel Span]

Would it be advisable that if you have a 55 build, to use that?

[Murder In China]

Crone > 55 builds.

[I Might Avenge U]

Ok,ppl,ppl. Calm down. This build still works perfectly fine. The reason why it doesn't work is because you guys can't do it. It takes lots of practice. Now the AOE patch is no problem because usally 1-5 grawl warriors will stay behind. Fist off the extra 10 dmg from the EoE is sometimes nessecary. sometimes it will fail miserably to see 6 necros with 10 hp left taunting you:( . But when I do these runs I do bring along my trusty drago's flat bow;) . That extra 30 hp can make all the difference. Just remember, Practice makes perfect:) !

[I Might Avenge U]

http://files.filefront.com/RangerFarmwmv/;4937493;;/fileinfo.html

yes,yes, that is me on the video. I do this to prove it can be done. It did take a few tries so you will see a few rough parts, but overall it did come out good.(This was made today, 3/31/06) Enjoy!:D

















(.........aint no hollaback grl.....)

[Asrial]

I can't seem to get enough crones together.

[Asrial]

In fact, I can't seem to get enough warriors either.

[Jack Valmont]

The trick is to actually round them up. Once you aggro them, go the little extra few steps towards Droks then run back to the hill, this will line them up and then allow you them to surround you...

By the way, GJ on that video.

[Jack Valmont]

Symbol of Wrath still works for me, but I need some attribute quests I guess.

I keep getting them down to really low HP and then I die. It sucks

I'm an R/Mo--and I don't have Oath Shot. how sucky is that?

[remmeh]

THAT. IS. AMAZING.
wow.

[master_ranger_matt]

or u could use a barrge ranger with whirling and eoe.

[Lithium,]

rofl tht looked funny, alll dem drops

[Yanman.be]

I wub pve eoe bombs..I farm dyes off charr..but this is MUCH better :D

[dont feel no pain]

this is realy old new though

[Exile Of Heaven]

Great Build ive started farming there now , great video 2 :)

[Lithium,]

Using Spiteful spirit instead of oath shot helps aswell

[ubermancer]

Using Spiteful spirit instead of oath shot helps aswell

Yeah I can see that. R/N could also use Unholy Feast to heal themselves... but since your likely already splitting your attributes Im guessing youd tend more towards Parasitic Bond. Gonna get my Ranger up to snuff today and try this out... EOE is my new favorite PVE skill...

Other then Frenzy Stance Tanks and Offensive Frozen Soil Rangers, of course.

[I Might Avenge U]

Thanks guys this thread is going very well. Mostly I just use that build that I posted because it workes well. I still don't see how spiteful sprirt would work because you need to quickly do the damage, If anyone has any video software and could make a video on these new ideas showing how succesful it would be that'd(<--word?) be great. Remember if any1 has any problems with the build im usally on every day IGN:I Might Avenge U, and im usally farming. So any1 feel free to contact me In game.

[Lithium,]

Spiteful spirit works because it does dmg to all adjacent foes when eva it atks

[Jack Valmont]

Any suggestions for R/Mo's?

[Thallandor]

Very nice build, makes me wonder about other possible areas/Quest to use use this EoE bomb to solo farm with.

[Lithium,]

r/mo i used to be one, do the necromancers path and change to necro :D

[SincorpDeath]

INSANE vid

[Turbobusa]

WOW this is hard.
I spend 3hours training myself and sucessed only once ^^

EDIT: twice ^^

[Mr Fizzle]

http://media.putfile.com/Bodies_000181

That was hot.

[Look Alive]

Ive been farmin here since i read about this thing, and i think its awsome. A nice run takes me max 5 minutes, and that gives me ~600g including the sales of white and bad drops. This although does not include the price i get for the superior runes that occasionally drop, and not even the 15 while enchanted bows i guett from crawl neclaces.

I have changes a little bit in the build for myself though. I use a r/n with mark of pain, and I am finding dodge to be useless! Though i have not removed it yet, in lack of a better alternative, it is as good as never used. What I do is instead of running all the way to the "peak" of that little mountain where they are supposed to be killed, i take my time. I start the run with EoE, then run towards the midle of the open area with dryders defence. Once dryders run out, i fire whirling and troll, then I use mark of pain on an enemy, oath shot, troll and whirling again, and THEN i run up. This way, i have almost full life when im at the top with most of the crawls are almost dead. I use throw dirt when i hit the top, and just simply clean up all the hammer crawls. Since i have taken so long time, i find more enemies have followed me, and the crones are almost always standing together, not able to move. Whirling slays them nice and easy..

[hobbitshd]

this is one of the funnest things/best tests that i have done since starting GW... i am hooked and i am sure the anyti-farming code is going ape %*^* on me, but i dont care. i keep going and trying it!
thanks for the post.
dont care, because they cant nerf it anymore, there really are not any good drops, (well, very rarley).
so much fun!
thanks,
bilbo

[ArianeB]

Cool stuff, may try this someday.

I hope those of you doing the farming are turning in your intricate grawl necklaces (40g for 5) into ascalon bows (125g for 5).

[Nightingale]

Sorry, may be I'm kind of a noob... but how can I mod. my state like...

Wilderness Survival:15
Expertise:8
Beastmastery:16
Curses:5

Can you be more specific? thank you.

[Svovler]

I try it many times, i allways die at the top of the little mountain!

[Kcp]

Sorry, may be I'm kind of a noob... but how can I mod. my state like...

Wilderness Survival:15
Expertise:8
Beastmastery:16
Curses:5

Can you be more specific? thank you.

your expertise is too low, wilderness survival is too high. 7-8 regen from troll is enough. You want higher expertise to do more damage with whirling ( this is what is doing the killing not MoP)

USe 2 masks with the appropriate superior rune in it. 1 mask for beast mastery to set EoE, another for expertise for your stances( whirling defense)

[Evaem Asollan]

Does this still work. I keep trying but atleast half the grawl run away when I use whirling defense + throw dirt. I then have 4 grawl hitting me taking next to no damage and I soon die.

[Nightingale]

your expertise is too low, wilderness survival is too high. 7-8 regen from troll is enough. You want higher expertise to do more damage with whirling ( this is what is doing the killing not MoP)

USe 2 masks with the appropriate superior rune in it. 1 mask for beast mastery to set EoE, another for expertise for your stances( whirling defense)
that's not my build, I was trying to mod. like as "I Might Avenge U" said in the fist post, and I can never reach that...
also, it's just like what Eavem Asollon said above, the mob will run away after I use whirling defense...

[Francis Crawford]

that's not my build, I was trying to mod. like as "I Might Avenge U" said in the fist post, and I can never reach that...
also, it's just like what Eavem Asollon said above, the mob will run away after I use whirling defense...

To get max attributes you need:

Suitable headgear
Suitable superior rune(s)
Level 20 status
Completion of two quests that give you 15 attribute points each

If you have all of those, I throw up my hands

[Fay Vert]

Can you throw up some build figures too please. Because I can't see how to get that either.

[Jack Valmont]

1) Drop Edge of Extinction
2) Switch Mask to Expertise

3) Dodge (~10 Seconds)
4) Troll Unguent

5) Run between hills, Dodge should be gone by now
6) Lightning Reflexes/Dryder's Defences
7) Run to the about straight ahead, then arc your turn so you end up in front of the hill.
8) Lightning Reflexes should be run out at base of hill
9) Whirling Defences
10) Get to top of hill and press [X] to flip around.

11) Troll Unguent
12) Throw Dirt
13) Oath Shot (It's best to line these all up so that when the Troll Unguent finishes, the other two are in queue)

14) Symbol of Wrath/Mark of Pain
15) Troll Unguent
16) Whirling Defences

17) They should be dead at this point.

I think I got it down. The reason I use Dodge first is that I want to get away from the Edge of Extinction as much as possible, but let the Grawl keep up with me for when I get up the hill. They can be switched around if you really hate it that much.

The run is damned hard, but it's satisfying to see them all go down.

(Yes I finally did get Oath Shot, and I've been running the Grawl Genocide since then)

[I Might Avenge U]

turbobusa,svovler,& Nightengale. If u guys put me on ur FL and I happen to be when u are(and if on a good comp) I can show u how to do it if u want. I may not pull it off(for some reason it seams to be alot harder to do with 2 ppl) but I can show u how to do it :).





P.S. lol grawl genocide. btw thanks for all the help with this post jack:)

[Look Alive]

At first I thought only of this farmingbuild as cheap fun, but now I actually make quite alot of cash on it!

If i assume that each run killing all the main crawls takes 10 minutes, I make about 8k an hour.. These 10 minutes include time identifying all the items, buying ID kits, selling stuff, picking up stuff, going out and in of Port Sledge waiting for a spawn with no Ele boss(blind+oath shot=death) and no crawls where I need my eoe.

The whole build became incredibly much easier when I got myself another BM mask to switch for, so that my eoe actually got up to 50 damage. At 26 damage or so, all it did was kill the crawls standing around me. The crones didnt really notice it that much :) Now, its my favorite farm build. Thanks for creating this

[Jack Valmont]

You're welcome.

I found something interesting. This is a more descriptive way of explaining it.

The Grawl Genocide Run

It doesn't matter whether what Area of Effect spell you use, just as long as it does at least 20+ damage to the people around you.

Get outside, use Dodge to get where you need to go.

Once you lay down the Edge of Extinction, use Troll Unguent and then run between the hills. By the time you get through the hill, Dodge should be ready to use again use it. Strafe back and forth and attract as many people as possible. Start heading towards the hill with 5 seconds left to go on your Dodge. At the bottom of the hill, slap on Lightning Reflexes/Dryder's Reflexes (whichever has more time).

The trick is staying alive at the top of the hill. One more thing, don't go to the very peak of the hill. What you want to do is get the Grawl spellcasters as close to the EoE as possible. Instead of going to the very top, go off to the farside (closer to the boss and the respawn alter). Lightning Reflexes/Dryder's Defences should be running out either moment.

Once we get up the hill, use Troll Unguent again. Press [C] and make sure you're targetting the closest crawl to you, use Toss Dirt and then use your Oath Shot. Now when you do this, make sure you time it so that you have Toss Dirt in queue right after Troll Unguent, and then once Troll Unguent starts regening, use Toss Dirt and then have your Oath Shot in queue. By this time, a whole group of Grawl should be taking damage like nothing else and should be around 3/4 to 1/2 full health.

After your Oath Shot hits, use Toss Dirt again, then Symbol of Wrath/Mark of Pain (or whatever other AoE spell you happen to have...I'm thinking some Elementalist spells might work). Your Troll Unguent should be blinking at this point, DO NOT LET IT RUN OUT. By this time, your Whirling Defences should be near ending, make sure you keep that running as well.

The Grawl should be near dead by now. If you have to use your Oath Shot agian, you probably haven't gotten your +30 extra attribute points. You're probably just like me.

My IGN is Jack Valmont, I'm always looking for new friends to talk too, if you're hanging around in the morning (about 6 a.m. EST) let me know and say hello.

[fusiom]

yeha man i got it once - but i really want to define this run.. i feel i might be doing it wrong...

After i have laid EoE for 50 damage... i swith to expertise mask... which leads to my stats looking like this ----->

CURSES---5
BEAST---11
EXPERT----12
WILDERNESS----11

----------------------

try this out and tell me where im going wrong - if i am at all

[fusiom]

also ----- GROWL CRONES arent following me --- HOW DO I DEAL WITH THAT?

[Jack Valmont]

Attract their mob.

[Asrial]

Put on some crone attracting cologne.

[Jack Valmont]

Put on some crone attracting cologne.

And make sure you give them "the look."

By the way, this is the general skillset you need for the above and the type of spell incase you feel like you need to subsitute.

Troll Unguent (+8 Regeneration)
Throw Dirt (No subsitution)
Mark Of Pain/Symbol of Wrath (Area of Effect, need at least +20 damage)
Lightning Reflexes/Dryder's Defences (+9 to +10 seconds of 75% dodge)
Whirling Defences (+19 seconds of 75% Dodge and +11 Damage to surrounding Grawl
Oath Shot (No plausible subsitution)
Edge of Extinction (+43 to +50 Damage, no less)
Dodge (75% dodge + speed increase)


Remember, make it so you use Lightning Reflexes/Dryder's Defences at the bottom of the hill so that it will give them time to effectively crowd around you so that they don't run as much from Mark Of Pain/Symbol of Wrath.

[Fay Vert]

Why won't anyone who can do this as regularly as they claim post their attribute build up, including runes? It's been asked for in various threads on this sublect, but only the OP has posted a half build that is not possible to attain.

Runes and attributes please. I have about 4 combinations that work, but not with the same success rates as some are claiming.

I'd also like to point out that the success rates claimed are not realistic.

For starters, there is EoE spot spawn. Grawls in this area = fail, this happens about 1 in 4. (25%) Okay, it's easy to just pop back into PS and respawn it, but when you get it about 5 times in a row it gets a bit tedious.

Next is the boss spawn. If you get the Ele (17%), forget it, and if you get the Monk or Necro (33%) then it's much harder, especially the monk. I've even had the ranger interrupt my Trolls!

Finally the total of grawl hammers varies quite a bit, sometimes there are just not enough of them, not to trigger the mass extinction. I know it's not just that I am not pulling them, as sometimes I abort the run if it looks too light and look around for them, they ain't there! This seems to happen something like 10% of the time. Sometimes there are tooooooo many of the flipping things, I think I have a perfect run going, no mess ups with skills, I get to the top of the hill, turn round and drop dead as there are about twice as many as I can tank there!

All in all, I would say if you can do better than 1 in 4 you are getting it about as good as it gets. I'd love to be proved wrong, I think this is a great and fun thing to pull off, but I just don't believe a lot of the claims being made.

[Look Alive]

First of all, theres no point trying the run if you see that theres crawl in the EoE area. Just turn around, and run back into Port. The same goes for the ele-boss, which gives you blind, and you have like 5% chance of hitting the crawls with Oath Shot.The monk boss is the best spawn of all if you ask me, seeing that all it does is put some protection spell on one of the crawls, that buhu wont die, i dont really care. The necro boss and ranger boss only gives me degen, though I have found the warrior boss giving knockdowns, which could very well mean death.

So, if I spawn any of the right bosses, and no crawls in that area where i put the EoE, i feel that I can do it in like 70% of the times. And i too, have found it just as effective not going up the hill but merely standing between the boss hill and our hill..

Heres my attributes and runes, if u liek :)

curses: 4
BM: 15 (11+superior+mask)
Expertice: 11 (10+1)
Wilderness: 12 (8+4)

I use a bow that gives -2 damage while in a stance, and I would like to put a +5 defence thingy on it aswell, but I need the pruning mod for FoW farming :(

And i have done one of the 15 attrib quests.

[Lectic]

Wouldnt Barrage work better instead of oath shot ? You wouldnt need symbol of wrath so u could use live vicarously to make it a bit easier .

I mean killing 6 grawls ( no more because barrage can hit max6 ) will still cause a chain reaction , or not? How much life do they have?

[Jack Valmont]

Their armor rating is too high to do this before Whirling Defence runs out. I've tried.

[ghostlyranger]

Why won't anyone who can do this as regularly as they claim post their attribute build up, including runes? It's been asked for in various threads on this sublect, but only the OP has posted a half build that is not possible to attain.

Runes and attributes please. I have about 4 combinations that work, but not with the same success rates as some are claiming.

I'd also like to point out that the success rates claimed are not realistic.

For starters, there is EoE spot spawn. Grawls in this area = fail, this happens about 1 in 4. (25%) Okay, it's easy to just pop back into PS and respawn it, but when you get it about 5 times in a row it gets a bit tedious.

Next is the boss spawn. If you get the Ele (17%), forget it, and if you get the Monk or Necro (33%) then it's much harder, especially the monk. I've even had the ranger interrupt my Trolls!

Finally the total of grawl hammers varies quite a bit, sometimes there are just not enough of them, not to trigger the mass extinction. I know it's not just that I am not pulling them, as sometimes I abort the run if it looks too light and look around for them, they ain't there! This seems to happen something like 10% of the time. Sometimes there are tooooooo many of the flipping things, I think I have a perfect run going, no mess ups with skills, I get to the top of the hill, turn round and drop dead as there are about twice as many as I can tank there!

All in all, I would say if you can do better than 1 in 4 you are getting it about as good as it gets. I'd love to be proved wrong, I think this is a great and fun thing to pull off, but I just don't believe a lot of the claims being made.

haha, is not just you only.

when someone show me about this method few months ago, i alraedy notice it is quite depend on spawn.

i prefer just to make a stance r/w go out and kill some shit. atleast it work everytime.

[SnoopJeDi]

I tried a run using SS instead of oath shot, with about 7 curses, high BM, high expertise (sup rune + mask), and the rest in wilderness survival. I think you could easily bump BM higher, for the cost of EoE.

Anyway, I did the run just as it's seen in the video and as others describe it, except I use SS on the grawl instead of oath shotting+AoE. I didn't get a big enough bang from EoE to make it matter, but I killed a few without any big problems. Worth a thought.

[cryoes]

http://media.putfile.com/Bodies_000181
Too bad that cant be done anymore becuase the monsters would have run away so.. not very impressive because it wasn't hard to do before the patch.

[scars of insanity]

i find mark of pain way better than most other eoe spells. the 30 dmg to adjacent if they take physical is good. expecially since with whirling defense your sending out tons of physical dmg each second making MoP trigger about 5 times per second.

Oath Shot
Troll
Dryers
Whirling
Dodge
Mark of Pain
Throw Dirt
EoE

Set up with expertize hat.
Curses 10
Beast mastery 9
Wildy 10
Expertize 10

When you plant eoe switch to a beast mastery hat with the superior rune on it and it should boost beast mastery to 13 witch is 45dmg per death.

[Jack Valmont]

Too bad that cant be done anymore becuase the monsters would have run away so.. not very impressive because it wasn't hard to do before the patch.

I still run this build. It's not as effective as Mark Of Pain, but as long as you allow the Grawl to group around you before hitting Whirling Defence, you shouldn't be good. They run from Whirling Defence just as much as they do as Mark Of Pain or Symbol of Wrath.

[Lectic]

Ok so Ive tried this build , I just use symbol of wrath instead of mark of pain and killing the warriors seems pretty easy now , my problem is , I never kill the casters , NEVER .

Those 10 grawls around me die and than the rest ( 15 grawl shamans or what theyr called ) keep on shooting me that sometimes I dont even collect the loot from warriors :( . Ive got EoE with dmg 50 , I dunno how can I make it so I kill the casters too? I wanna kill everybody :)

[Rogier]

amazing! GJ on the build, and the video is amazing!

[Lectic]

I dont get it I lay down EoE closer to the mountain u go up , but I never get the crones , never ! I dont get it .. maybe they increased their shoot range and they dont need to be so close now .. or I dunno .. Ive got BM 15 ... .. Is there a way I can make them go up the mountain a bit or some tactics ? Ill try tommorow not to go the the mountain go to , but the one before .

[Look Alive]

If the casters arent quite dead, all you do is go down and let whirling take care of the rest. if 2 of them dies, the rest will die with them

[Fay Vert]

You are probably running past them under dodge. Just use that to get into the valley, after that replace with dryders as dodge shakes agro. You need to collect enough hammer grawls or you won't get eh big knockout.

[Jack Valmont]

The trick is to lay the EoE as close to the mountain as possible, then run up the second hill.

[Lectic]

eh so I should run to the 2nd one and not the 3rd one like I might avenge u does in his video? I do lay it really close ,that sometimes grawls attack the eoe . It doesnt even damage them when I kill the grawls next to me ( hammer ones ) .

[Fay Vert]

There are only two hills to run past. Run up the one next to the boss.

And if Grawls hit on EoE, you failed, go back and start again.

[P!zza]

Using the bow from the Blankets for the Settlers quest is really helpful.
(It gives -2 damage while in stance)
And heres my suggestion:
Curses: 2
Expertise: 8+1
Beast Mastery: 12+1+3 (while laying the spirit)
Wilderness survival: 10+1+3 (while actually doing it)
You need to swap from a Beast-Mastery-Mask to a Survival mask after laying the spirit.

Dodge
Dryders Defence (better than Lightning reflexes bacause it last longer and gives elemental resistance (the grawl-necros do elemental dmg))
Whirling Defence
Throw Dirt
Oath Shot
Troll Unguent
Mark of Pain
Edge of Extinction

[Pi_Numurian]

It looks good, I think I need to make a ranger though

[Peewee]

Found about that farming method yesterday, practised it all day and came to practically the same conclusion as the original post. I use Lightning relfexes instead of dodge tho, and i Mark of Pain a Grawl before i reach the mound, it drops a lot of dmg. Then i use Whirling defence only when they are all blinded, and i am in a good position. Use it too soon and they scatter, which mucks up your blinding, and gets u killed pretty quick. I also get 26 dmg from MoP, and switch runes twice. My sequence runs as follows:

1)EoE (at 50 dmg)
2)Change Rune to wilderness
3)troll ungent
4)begin approach
5)Dryders defences
6)change rune to expertise
7)Mark of Pain on nearest Grawl (must be about 4 seconds before troll runs out to recover any dmg taken from chasing Grawl)
8)Run to top of mound
9)Throw Dirt
9.5)Whirling Defence (at the same time as Throw Dirt)
10)Oath Shot
11)Troll Ungent
12)Throw Dirt again.

usually it goes no further than that, but f the monk is in the area it sometimes requires a little longer. I can hold out for about 30 seconds like that before a Grawl gets a lucky strike or 2.

The other important thing is to make sure that you make your stand at the crest of the mound. There is a dip just over it, which will stop a lot of dmg, but will also stop a dmg being done to the Grawl. Occasionally i get into the position where the Surrounding Grawl didnt trigger a EoE chain. In this circumstance simply run to a mob of Grawl Necros, mark of pain one, and trigger Whirling defence. I cleared out the entire area like that.

Edit: Dryders inst better cos it has armour vs elemental dmg becuase the vast majority of Grawl necros do dark dmg, not cold. It may help slightly.

Thanks for the tip on the absorbtion bow, that may come in useful, tho i will need to find a decent fortitude mod for it.

[Jack Valmont]

Why are you casting Mark of Pain before you reach the top of the hill?

It should be...

1) Get to top of hill.
2) Troll Unguent
3) Throw Dirt
4) Oath Shot

5) Throw Dirt
6) Mark Of Pain
7) Troll Unguent

[D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E]

heh I got too mad at the run... maybe some other time i'll try it again... like with factions armor...

[kosh]

build is nice il tell you that..
but its old news, saw few monthes ago a r/n video do that
(if il find the vid il upload it).
been doing that for a while. u do get lots of armor but chance to get a gold are slim.

[Legeon]

I just found out yesterday about this (go me) but I'm a quick learner and already have a nice run down. Infact, it's very similar to the video shown but I digress.

Best drop I've had so far was a gold armor that yielded a superior rune of divine favor. Sold it for 9k at the trader.

I've gotten at least...6-7 other gold drops but they were all cruddy.
got up 11 levels though since yesterday.

[Peewee]

Why are you casting Mark of Pain before you reach the top of the hill?

I was getting killed when i used mark of pain at the top of the hill. In addition, this way it allows Oath shot to recharge mop faster, so it can be used again relatively quick. Also, why not use it early? I dont dmg for doing it, as only 1 or 2 Grawl land hit, which is immediately regened away. It also helps group the Grawl prior to using whirling, which helps in both blinding and actually killing the buggers.

I know its not a new build, but i only found out about it recently. For those wishing to know how much cash you make out of it, well i made 2k a run, a run lasting about 2-4 minutes. Admitedly i was lucky, but i reckon you hall about 500-1k per run, which can be repeated often. Its also not brain numbingly boring, but it does require much practise to get right. It was at least 30 runs before i killed anything, another 30 until a decent chain started, and anotger 30 on that until i could do it reliable.

[fusiom]

OK -----> FIRST: This run is NOT a nerfed RUN!
---------> SECOND: the best tip is to keep trying untill you get the hang of it!

I have SUCCESSFULLY up to 7 times in a row.... well sometimes i even use a scroll to UP my experience!

PICTURE WORTH A 1,000 WORDS

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3281/gw00612vp.jpg

[dansamy]

http://media.putfile.com/Bodies_000181

Bodies is the original video made by my ex-guildie and friend Peligro. (He designed that awesome green cape!) Bodies was made back in the summer, probably July or so. When aoe got nerfed, he searched for a method of altering his build. He settled on necro.

This is his follow-up video,made in either December or January, I think. Grawl-Farming-Final (http://media.putfile.com/Grawl-Farming-Final33) In this video, he is using a R/N build. I think it's very similar to what the OP posted here.

[byobodybag]

Bodies is the original video made by my ex-guildie and friend Peligro. (He designed that awesome green cape!) Bodies was made back in the summer, probably July or so. When aoe got nerfed, he searched for a method of altering his build. He settled on necro.

This is his follow-up video,made in either December or January, I think. Grawl-Farming-Final (http://media.putfile.com/Grawl-Farming-Final33) In this video, he is using a R/N build. I think it's very similar to what the OP posted here.

well, in the first video he used SoW as a R/Mo... do you or anyone know how he divided his attrib points? Tnx. :)

[Jack Valmont]

It was probably something like +16 Beast Mastery (with Mask), +15 Expertise (with Mask), and +9-10 Smiting Spells with the rest on Wilderness Survival. You have it pay around with them a bit. You need at least +7 to +8 Regen on Troll.

[dansamy]

I don't know what smite attribute he finally settled on. I know when he was still tweaking it, I used to take my elmo smiter and help him stay alive while he figured things out. RoF spamming helped heal him and killed the grawl faster with the added dmg of zealot's fire. Good times. (Yes I miss the overpowered ER.)

[byobodybag]

i hate it when that oathshot misses... which likely will since marks is too low. :(

[Shaz]

Oathshot is linked to expertise so only ranger can get the most out of it.

[Fay Vert]

It was probably something like +16 Beast Mastery (with Mask), +15 Expertise (with Mask), and +9-10 Smiting Spells with the rest on Wilderness Survival. You have it pay around with them a bit. You need at least +7 to +8 Regen on Troll.

This build is nowhere near possible. It takes 97 attribute points hit level 12 so if you do it in two lines, +16 Beast Mastery (with Mask), +15 Expertise (with Mask), then you are left with SIX atribute points and you are not going to get anywhere near 9-10 Smiting spells, let alone have Wilderness Survival up in the +7-+8 Trolls level!

It's absolutely nothing like this build.

[kicks66]

so this works if you just use whirling defense (no mark of pain or symbol of wrath)?

[hobbitshd]

this works fine...

attributes: NOT SURE but i know the follwing damage points for sure:
whirling does 9 damage, extinction does 50, and mark of pain does 20
i think it is (obviously swapping to raise the beast mast when laying spirit)

b mast 15 (when laying eoe)
exp 9
curse 5
wild surv- whatever is left

oath shot
mark of pain
troll ungent
extinction
dodge
dryders
whirling
throw dirt

i do it a little different..

i put the spirit as far/close to the grawl i am killing as i can - a little further up than the OP.

eoe, dodge... run over behind hill and cast troll ungent.. use dryders after dodge runs out....

at about bottom of hill (or so, when dryders ends) hit whirling and get to the spot on top of hill...

hit tab, throw dirt on nearest, tab again - mark of pain...
tab - oath shot...

whirling again, tab - mark of pain...

troll ungent

this should take out most of the grawls, some of the crones will have a little health left, so head over to them and use the end of whirling / dryders until you can oath shot - then whirling (possibly mark of pain again on a crone) and that should put an end to it.

i have done this tons of times since reading this post.
at the start if the ele, pekpek(or something), is there, i go one hill short of her - kill most before the ele aggros .

i did the same with the necro, forget the name and ranger, pippip.

after doing this a lot, i find this works best with all the bosses, as the actual boss heads over once most of the damage is already done. it should be cake with the warrior and the monk boss usually stays at range and might heal one or two.

hope this helps,
feel free to message me in game, mention this and i will be glad to help/show you if you would like.

ign = bobby bilbo

ps- just saw the video a few posts above. i have been trying to get a few marks of pain up there as well. that really kills them fast! :-)

-dodge does basically nothing to stop any attacks from hitting. it does get you into a position to aggro (and use dryders) the most grawl.
-using dryders has the best effect for 'dodging' attacks while aggroing.
-i usually only use throw dirt once.

i am gonna try using dryders and get another mark of pain up after oath shot and see how that works.

as for the drops, golds are pretty rare here, i have found. i would say one in about 3-4 successful eoe bombs. usually a major rune or a staff with a high req. THIS IS JUST MY EXPERIENCE! but it is usually over 1k in items a successful run - dont sell the intricate necklaces - trade them and sell the staff you get for 125g - vs. 40g for the necklaces.

[kicks66]

i just need it for exp really, i cant find any other good way and i need skill points

[Jack Valmont]

I'm making my video of this. It should be done within the next week or so if my video editing skills are still as good as they used to be.

[Fay Vert]

Here's one I did earlier (http://files.filefront.com/grawlbombwmv/;4961159;;/fileinfo.html)

[Ninja OniX]

about that video earlier.......................when i do this farm right now, the bosses screws me up big time. And eoe cant kill the crawl casters, i need help. Not sure if i need more crawl following or what.

that video is too old because holy wrath has cast time now.

[Jack Valmont]

Here's one I did earlier (http://files.filefront.com/grawlbombwmv/;4961159;;/fileinfo.html)

Hehe. That's funny as hell.

[Jack Valmont]

Here is a Instructional video that uses one of my sloppier runs.

Just because, well, we can't all be perfect. Enjoy it.

http://63.246.154.36/~matthewd/GrawlGenocide.wmv

[Dr. Fire]

Nice build for Grawl farming, but I for one have pretty much stopped doing a lot of farming. I still give it an occasional go just for the fun of it, but it isn't really worth much since Arena.net has been nerfing farming. After a few times through an area they nerf your drops and the time wasted, for me anyway, outweigh the quality of drops.

[Jack Valmont]

about that video earlier.......................when i do this farm right now, the bosses screws me up big time. And eoe cant kill the crawl casters, i need help. Not sure if i need more crawl following or what.

that video is too old because holy wrath has cast time now.

In my video, I just hit Whirling Defences again and kill the Grawl casters by running down the hill. If they are in range of the Edge of Extinction Spirit, they should die rather quickly.

[Fay Vert]

That is a good idea. Quite a few times, there aren't quite enough hammers to trigger the mass extinction. Going down to the crones to hit them with some medicine is a lovely simple solution to the tidy-up problem.

[winkgood]

The only problem I see with these videos is that the creators of them picked occassions where they had a perfect spawn and the grawl behaved exactly the way they wanted them to. This is very often not the case as the grawl will sometimes run away and stop attacking you completely. There are several other scenerios I find happen very often.

Here's my video with a more realistic scenerio:

Low Quality (8 megs)
http://files.filefront.com/Queef_PwnGrawl_Lowwmv/;4978642;;/fileinfo.html

High Quality (30 megs)
http://files.filefront.com/Queef_PwnGrawl_Highwmv/;4978632;;/fileinfo.html


My favorite part is at the end when the two crones come from the other side of them map and cut my victory dance short:)

[Jack Valmont]

That's as close to what really happens. I've seen this build done about 4 different ways now. In the end, it really depends on the Grawl to Grawl Crones ratio. You need at least 8 Grawl (8 x 50 = 400 Health) and then at least 8-10 Grawl (400 to 500 Health) for a total of 800 to 1000 Damage to every damn, dirty Grawl in the area. Of course, it's usually up to 1500-2000 damage.

I've overanalyzed this to the point of insanity.

[P!zza]

The only problem I see with these videos is that the creators of them picked occassions where they had a perfect spawn and the grawl behaved exactly the way they wanted them to. This is very often not the case as the grawl will sometimes run away and stop attacking you completely. There are several other scenerios I find happen very often.

Here's my video with a more realistic scenerio:

Low Quality (8 megs)
http://files.filefront.com/Queef_PwnGrawl_Lowwmv/;4978642;;/fileinfo.html

High Quality (30 megs)
http://files.filefront.com/Queef_PwnGrawl_Highwmv/;4978632;;/fileinfo.html


My favorite part is at the end when the two crones come from the other side of them map and cut my victory dance short:)
That's the way I do it too... but do you switch to WS mask or Expertise mask? Because if you use WS, Dryders Defense is better than Lightning reflexes. And the two Crones always come to me when I farm.. Has to be some bug in their KI ;)


And I find that your (Jack Valmont) analysis is exaggerating. Even if you have only 7 Grawls, you can walk to the Crones with Whirling Defense on and kill them by hand :D.

[winkgood]

That's the way I do it too... but do you switch to WS mask or Expertise mask? Because if you use WS, Dryders Defense is better than Lightning reflexes. And the two Crones always come to me when I farm.. Has to be some bug in their KI ;)


And I find that your (Jack Valmont) analysis is exaggerating. Even if you have only 7 Grawls, you can walk to the Crones with Whirling Defense on and kill them by hand :D.

The question of whether to use lightning reflexes or dryders defense probably depends on how much WS you use. I only use 6 WS and instead use 14 expertise (with the expertise mask on). The mask switch you saw was me switching from BM to Expertise. I like 14 expertise because then whirling is doing 11 dmg and lasts much longer. I've seen a lot of builds which use more WS for the troll unguent but the way I farm is not worrying so much about healing or defense, but worry about killing them quickly so I don't have to do a lot of healing. 6 WS is more than enough to counter the effects of poison or life siphon.

[P!zza]

Well, I have 14 WS, that is +10 health regen from Troll Unguent. This of yourse means that my expertise is very low and my curses are only at 2, but I tend to find that it is enough dmg...

And the reason I choose Dryders is that it gives a chance on armor against Elemental Damage, which is what the crones are doing (Cold-Damage I believe)

[Jack Valmont]

As long as you have Whirling to about +8 Damage, it should be enough to kill them off. But then you have to remember to make sure you have enough Crones to do it.

8 x 5 = 45 damage to each Grawl each on each Barrage the Grawl Crones throw at you.

Then there is Mark Of Pain...and so on and I need to stop thinking about this now.

[Fay Vert]

The only problem I see with these videos is that the creators of them picked occassions where they had a perfect spawn and the grawl behaved exactly the way they wanted them to. This is very often not the case as the grawl will sometimes run away and stop attacking you completely. There are several other scenerios I find happen very often.


I completely agree, I think this run is over-sold.

My main problem is that often there are just not enough grawls around to trigger the mass extinction. That and sometimes there are just too many and I get to the top of the hill with good health, WD up, trolls up, trow dirt, and then die as I not ice I have about twice as many around me as i was expecting.

The under-spawn can be dealt with by going back to the crones to finish them, something I hadn't considered doing before. The over-spawn can be countered by only going up the first hill and avoid the boss (also solves the ele boss spawn problem).

I currently do about 1 in 4 totally successfully, not counting the times when you have to rezone because there are grawl on the EoE drop site. With practice I am sure I can get it higher. But having done it enough times to "tick" that one off, I haven't bothered with it since. The drops are poor and trapping trolls is a lot easier. Ice imp/golem farming is probably more profitable in both cash and XP.

The truth about Grawl Bombing:

Hard to "learn" (not to panic)
Hard to do reliably (spawn dependant)
Poor for farming cash
Good for farming XP
Possibly the most impressive thing you can video

[jimmyhats]

pretty much this exact build was posted in Nov 05 by Peligro Puro on gameamp

link (http://guildwars.gameamp.com/video/viewVideo/229.php)

[dansamy]

pretty much this exact build was posted in Nov 05 by Peligro Puro on gameamp

link (http://guildwars.gameamp.com/video/viewVideo/229.php)

I believe I already pointed out that Peligro was the earliest known (that I am aware of) to use a R/Mo (and later R/N) grawl farmer. When he 1st started doing the grawl farming, I used to aid him with my emo smiter (before the nerf of Ether Renewal) so that he wouldn't die before the grawl did. Once he learned the best way to keep himself alive, he no longer needed the additional healing from RoF spam. :( Gg Maya.

[Jack Valmont]

Out of all the videos I've seen and the different ways I've tried--he's got it done the best way.

On the run:

1) Edge of Extinction
2) Troll Unguent + Dodge
3) Lightning Reflexes
4) Whirling Defences

On the hill:

5) Troll Unguent + Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain
6) Oath Shot + Lightning Reflexes + Troll Unguent
7) Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain + Whirling Defences

Then they die. I usually don't use the Lightning Reflexes the second time, but it's something I'm definitely going to try. I'm also running the Alana Pepski spawn now.

I'm also writing the a guide for GuildWiki. Once it's done, we should all have a better understanding of how to do this run.

The drops still suck hardcore, but I'm loving every moment of this run.

I'm using Scroll of Rampager's Insight at the bottom of the hill. I love my skill points.

[Yunas Ele]

Im having absolutely no luck doing this. I'm taking like 10x as much damage than he did in the video, and yes I have perfect armor, sup vigor, etc.. and my damage output is like 10x less.... what am I doing wrong?? :confused:

[Jack Valmont]

This is what you need to know:

The setup: make sure no Grawl are nearby.

Prep:
1) Troll Unguent, then Dodge
2) Run to the end of the area (where he turns around and runs)
3) Hit Lightning Reflexes
4) Run to Hill
5) Use Whirling Defence once Lightning runs out.
6) Get to top of hill (choose one, it doesn't matter)

Top of hill:

This is when you really need to just press the buttons in the right order. This is what I do:

1) Troll Unguent
2) Press C (Target Closest)
3) Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain (make sure they go one after another.
4) Press C. Oath Shot.
5) Lightning Reflexes again! (Whoa! A new development!)
6) Troll Unguent again.
7) Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain. Hit Whirling Defences as soon as Mark Of Pain is cast. This will allow the Grawl to group up around you once again so that no one gets away easily.

They will now all die.

This is what you need:

Druids Armor
Optional: Bow of Perfect Fortitude +30 HP (Tarnok's or something)
Mask of Superior Expertise
Mask of Superior Beast Mastery
Rune of Minor Wilderness Survival
Rune of Major/Superior Vigor

Attributes:
Curses +5
Beast Mastery +11 + 1 + 3
Expertise +11 + 1 + 3
Wilderness Survival +7 + 1 (I'm not entirely sure about this, but dump rest of points into it).

I use the first hill now. Run diagonally across so that you don't end up at the very top. Then start what I just discussed.

It helps having +30 Attribute points. Trust me, it really really does.

[I Might Avenge U]

plz read this post ppl.

THIS STILL WORKS AFTER AOE PATCH!!!!!(hypno!=)<<lol smiley and parenthases


ok now all of you people who message me ingame about this build after AOE patch plz dont if u read this post!

Speacial thanks to jack(WHO SPELT MY NAME WRONG IN VIDEO THANKS!!![i MIGHT avenge u] not IWAY, IMAY!)who made that instruction vid. I will be happy to help ne1 this weekend when im on. btw GG on winning HOH YUNA! (yes i know ur looking at this post!=)<<<lol!


(Yuna I can help u this weekend if u want just pm in game on FRI,SAT,or SUN if im on =)<<<lol!!

[Darkgift Risen]

HOLY SITBALLS!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT WAS THE COOLEST FARM VIDEO YET!!!!!!!!!!!!OMFG I GOTTA TRY THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NICE BUILD DOOD...Dark

[Jack Valmont]

:) It's all everybody else.

[sh4ft3d]

Truly amazing video. I can't believe I didnt notice it before.

[Peligro Puro]

I must say, it is very interesting that a thread this large and this active has grown from a single video I posted 10 months or so ago. For all of you that are wondering, here is the current build/strat, and reasoning behind the method. I run on average a 9/10 success rate with my longest streak being 54.

Skills
Troll
Throw Dirt
Mark of Pain
Dryders defence
Whirling defence
Oath Shot
Dodge
Rez sig

Run with 2 masks, beast mastery mask with superior beast mastery, and expertise mask with minor expertise.

Att spread(with beast mask)
10 curses
13 beast
9 expertise
10 wilderness

Att spread(with exp mask)
10 curses
9 beast
10 expertise
10 wilderness

The whilring is by no means the thing that kills or sets off the edge bomb. The combination of whirling, + a 30dmg mark of pain kills things faster than whilring ever will.

The 13 in beast mastery is enough to kill the casting grawls with the first bomb (about 6/7 out of 10 runs) (45 dmg EoE bomb)

Casting order
With beast mask, drop EoE, and switch to exp mask
Troll
Dodge
Whirling
Troll
Dryders
Throw Dirt
Mark of Pain
Oath shot
Dyrders
Throw dirt
Mark of Pain
Whirling

If done in this order, you will never need to worry about grawls running away because no AoE dmg will be set off until you hit your second whirling. With 2 30 dmg mark of pains, the grawls will drop in about 2 seconds.

Any further questions, feel free to PM me in game.

Peligro Puro

[Jack Valmont]

Casting order
With beast mask, drop EoE, and switch to exp mask
Troll
Dodge
Whirling
Troll
Dryders
Throw Dirt
Mark of Pain
Oath shot
Dyrders
Throw dirt
Mark of Pain
Whirling

---

Split up into catagories with a little variation I found helped a little:


Prep Run

1) Troll Unguent + Dodge

2) Whirling Defence

Hill

1) Troll Unguent, then Dryder's Defence (allowing enough time for Oath Shot)

2) Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain (You can wait 2 seconds and Throw Dirt to avoid the initial spike of Grawl smacking you around

3) Oath Shot

4) Dryder's Defence OR Whirling Defence (If you feel like you might die from the extra 5-6 seconds of taking damage, use Whirling Defence--this is your PANIC BUTTON)

5) Troll Unguent + Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain

6) Whirling Defence (if not used before)

Aftermath

1) Use Dodge + Troll Unguent to pick up initial drops

2) Oath Shot

3) Whirling Defence, and so on.

Remember to press [C] before using Throw Dirt and Mark Of Pain, do it each time you use it.

[Tefnut]

too much crone... for me doesn't work

[Jack Valmont]

This worked for me all morning:

Prep:

1) Edge of Extinction
2) Dodge + Troll Unguent
3) Run to gether Grawl
4) Whirling Defence
5) Run directly towards hill and run diagonally up

Hill:

1) Troll Unguent then Dryder's Defence
2) Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain
3) Oath Shot
4) Once Mark Of Pain starts running out hit Oath Shot then rapidly hit Dryder's Defence + Troll Unguent as fast as you possibly can.
5) Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain
6) As soon as Mark Of Pain is activated, use Whirling Defence to kill them all. It should take no more than 5 seconds.

The idea is to keep Dryder's Defence and Troll Unguent for 20 second straight while you cast Throw Dirt and Mark Of Pain twice. As long as you can keep these two skills up, you will stay alive long enough to cast Mark Of Pain twice--which is your big damage dealer.

Because of the Monk boss, Anet likes to keep us on our toes--They gave him Healing Seeds. This will really screw you over if he casts it on the Grawl surrounding you.

[Jack Valmont]

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Grawl_Bombing_Run'

I finally started that guide in the GuildWiki

Anyone want to add improvements? I'm taking pictures and stuff for it.

[Peewee]

Ok, recently while Grawl bombing i have got many requests from people asking me how it is done. This is a lot more attention than i am used to for Grawl bombing. I have also noticed many more R/N and R/Mo in port sledge.

Anyway, becuase i am a nice kinda guy :), i can show you how the bomb is done, where to put EoE, and what skills to use when etc. I run on GMT+0 time, and my character name is Elenof Greenstone. If you want help then you can find me in Port Sledge international 1.

Pls, for the love of god, do not whisper me if you do not see me in Port Sledge.

I am a pvp player at heart, but even i need money, hence the farming. I will not take kindly to people whispering me while i am in the middle of gvg. If you have not seen me after 5 mins in quoted district, likelyhood is i am not Grawl bombing. If you see me there, then by all means invite urself or whisper me.

I shall not charge (for now), i will simply show you what to do, what skills to use, and what attributes and weapons to use.

It is a very difficult farming technique, and tbh describing what i do here is a waste of time. took me about 100 times to get it down right, tho that was from scratch. hopefully with a little help you can be bombing much faster.

I will tell you what skills i use though:
1)Oath Shot
2)Whirling Defence
3)lightning reflexes
4)Dryders Defences
5)Throw Dirt
6)Mark of Pain
7)Troll Ungent
8)Edge of Extinction

runes and equipment
Druids Armour with vigour rune, minor expertise, minor wilderness.
Headpeices Tamers mask with sup Beast mastery
Expertise Mask with sup Expertise
Wildreness Survival Mask with Superior Wildreness survival

Blankets for the Settlers Bow (2 absorbtion while in stance) -not entirely neccasry, but it helps.
Gorrels Staff (+30 +30 mod) -again, not needed, but really helps when you need to pick up lots of stuff and are taking a bit of dmg.

regarding the wiki page, the link is wierd, wiki cant find it, but it is there :/

Anyway, i use a slightly different method (i think throw dirt is the first thing u should do once on the hill) and i dont use whirling at all until mark of pain and blind is down as it tends to scatter them. i said i wouldnt go into describing the run, but meh.

1)drop EoE
2)switch to wildreness survial mask
3)troll ungent (+9 regen)
4)switch to expertise as i run to grawl
5)aggro grawl
6)use dryders defences (9 secs) when, and not before troll ungent is finished (troll ungent should have absorbed most of dmg taken up till this point)
7)keep aggroing
8)lightning reflexes(10 secs) once dryders is down.
9)run to top of hill
10)throw dirt
11)mark of pain (26 dmg)
12)at this point lightning reflexes is proberly close to ending, so whack up whirling as soon as u stick on mark of pain, or just before if neccasary
13)troll ungent (7 regen)
14)dance while Grawl drop around you

again, there is a bit more to it than that, so come find me if u need a little bit of help. I will try your method Jack, but if i fail, its usually due to some grawl coming close to me as a plant EoE, or a bad spawn in general. All i know is that my method works for me, i can take down the Warrior boss if i get good spawn.

[Jack Valmont]

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Grawl_Bombing_Run

There was a quote thing after it.

I'd have to disagree that Throw Dirt is the first thing you should do. The Grawl are at least 1-3 seconds behind you. The Dryder's Defenses/Whirling Defense is enough to hold them off for the maybe 1-2 second spike you'll get in that timeframe.

You're method is good--but a concern of mine is that you don't get far away from your Edge of Extinction spirit so that it doesn't attract the Grawl. As long as you don't let the Grawl near your spirit and you keep your skills queued while you're on the hill (meaning you keep a constant Dryder's Defenses and Troll Unguent while casting Throw Dirt and Mark of Pain), this build has a 90% success rate.

[Stabber]

Your GuildWiki post has, unfortunately, angered the orthodoxy. This is partly because (Grawl) farming is not too respectable in the circles that frequent GuildWiki, and partly because your article did not fit the several ephemeral build article guidelines there. (Full disclosure: I hate farming and despise farmers. Of all kinds.)

I have taken the liberty of editing it severely. In particular, a lot of the obvious stuff like "hit C to target closest", etc. was snipped as the Wiki assumes a certain level of clue among its readers.

[Fay Vert]

I disagree with editing things like that out. For Gwarl farming, the specifics of what you do and were are vital, one thing wrong and you die. No wiki should be written on the assumption that the reader doesn't actually need to know!

And islike of farming or not. Grawl bombing is one of the most impressive things you can do. I'd recommend everyone to try it even if you got zero xp and zero gold out of it. It's a nice challenge and looks amazing.

[Fay Vert]

Wow!

I've just gone to read about it on GuildWiki and OMG!!!

What a nasty twist has happened to what I previously thought a great site! A Wiki getting so heavily censored!

Ridiculous, they even censor the talk!!!

Care to censor this one out while you are at it

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Invincible_Monk

[Stabber]

What a nasty twist has happened to what I previously thought a great site! A Wiki getting so heavily censored!

Ridiculous, they even censor the talk!!!

Don't be ridiculous. Nothing is censored.

The article was merely moved to its proper name.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/R/N_Grawl_Bomber

If you have an objection to GuildWiki policies, bring it up there. There are several people who will agree with you, and several who won't.

----
EDIT: Proper places to voice your concern about GuildWiki policies:

GuildWiki's community portal (http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/GuildWiki_talk:Community_Portal)
GuildWiki's user questions page (http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/GuildWiki:User_questions)
GuildWiki forums on guildwarsguru (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=220)

Any one of those three pages will be read by a large percentage of the active GuildWiki community.

[ggkthxbye]

I say there is nothing wrong in maintaining layout and style of character builds.

So I say go GuildWiki.

[Fay Vert]

Don't be ridiculous. Nothing is censored.

The article was merely moved to its proper name.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/R/N_Grawl_Bomber



Well I am pleased to see it back again, but when I posted, the article, the cross-linked article and even the talk articles were all marked for deletion. Some overzelous little busy body had definately gone too far.

I also don't see this as an R/N only build, you can do it with many secondarys, so the original post was just as valid.

But serioulsy, if their are people who object to farming builds on wiki then what the hell is 55 monk doing there. Or for that matter ANY PvE build.

[Jack Valmont]

To be honest, I would have rather not seen it changed to a Ranger/Necromancer build only. There is more than area of effect skill that will work--it's just that no one gave me time to update and add to the article before picking it apart.

[Stabber]

Well I am pleased to see it back again, but when I posted, the article, the cross-linked article and even the talk articles were all marked for deletion. Some overzelous little busy body had definately gone too far.
You are simply wrong, sir. I put the delete notices up after the articles were moved, and the delete notices were for the sole purpose of removing useless redirects. At no point was the text of the article missing from the wiki, and nothing had to be restored, as you claim.

But serioulsy, if their are people who object to farming builds on wiki then what the hell is 55 monk doing there. Or for that matter ANY PvE build.
You are making a strong accusation that the Wiki censors articles. My impression is that you are unaware of how the wiki wprks, but if you think you're right, you should follow it up on the links provided earlier. The wiki has open democratic access as one of its key ideals and I would hate to see this policy broken or tarnished by baseless accusations.

You may also be interested in

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Category:Farming_Builds
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Category:Build_stubs

These categories contain many farming-specific builds. The stubs are in the process of community vetting, and will migrate to the first category when enough people vouch for them.

My opinion of farming is mine alone, not the Wiki's, which is why I rarely touch these articles.

[Barek_NO]

To be honest, I would have rather not seen it changed to a Ranger/Necromancer build only. There is more than area of effect skill that will work--it's just that no one gave me time to update and add to the article before picking it apart.
I'm the one who attached the "R/N" designation on it. The build formatting at the wiki has all build articles designated with professions in their titles (except the invincible monk build, for some odd reason - but that one predates most other build articles at the site). The reason I used R/N is because the build as listed uses both Ranger and Necro skills and attributes.

It's common in other builds to have a "Variants" section. That could be added to this one with alternate but related variants that use a different secondary. Then the article just needs to be renamed with an "R/Any" designation.

[Slash Winder]

I did try a few runs without oath shot, since I didn't had the time yet to cap it. It worked one time, well enough to kill the melee ones, and I think there was enough, because they didnt run from mark of pain.

However, it looked like EoE did not trigger because all the cranes did not die, or suffer enough damage.

Did I do something wrong here?

[Fay Vert]

You are simply wrong, sir. I put the delete notices up after the articles were moved, and the delete notices were for the sole purpose of removing useless redirects. At no point was the text of the article missing from the wiki, and nothing had to be restored, as you claim.


You are making a strong accusation that the Wiki censors articles. My impression is that you are unaware of how the wiki wprks, but if you think you're right, you should follow it up on the links provided earlier. The wiki has open democratic access as one of its key ideals and I would hate to see this policy broken or tarnished by baseless accusations.

You may also be interested in

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Category:Farming_Builds
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Category:Build_stubs

These categories contain many farming-specific builds. The stubs are in the process of community vetting, and will migrate to the first category when enough people vouch for them.

My opinion of farming is mine alone, not the Wiki's, which is why I rarely touch these articles.

Then my apologies that I misinterpteted all the delete notifications and also your orignial post in this very thread

Your GuildWiki post has, unfortunately, angered the orthodoxy. This is partly because (Grawl) farming is not too respectable in the circles that frequent GuildWiki, and partly because your article did not fit the several ephemeral build article guidelines there. (Full disclosure: I hate farming and despise farmers. Of all kinds.)

Perhaps you can see how I formed this opinion when I followed the origina links? I am sorry, but you can't say things as black and white as that and then claim the very opposite when someone disagrees with it. In this context I don't think you could describe my accusations as baseless, very well founded I would say.

[Stabber]

Perhaps you can see how I formed this opinion when I followed the origina links? I am sorry, but you can't say things as black and white as that and then claim the very opposite when someone disagrees with it. In this context I don't think you could describe my accusations as baseless, very well founded I would say.
However, what I said is very true and I have never claimed the opposite. See the discussion for yourself on:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Talk:R/N_Grawl_Bomber

One of the first things the GuildWiki community responded with was a satirical article:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/W/R_Wall_Charr_Bomber

I don't think it is a stretch to claim that the Grawl bomber was not seen as a serious build.

Note that both these articles have been allowed to stand. No censorship as far as I can tell.

[Iskrah]

Guildwiki talk aside, I wanted to post in that thread to show my appreciation of that build. I remember watching the video a few months ago, thinking I could never do it... well, in my quest to know more farming spots, I finally tried it today...
... and I got it to work after a few tries.

MAN. When those 15 something Grawls fall for the first time, it feels good.

Thanks again!

[Iskrah]

And let me add something about the reaction of a few players against the build appearing in Guildwiki.

That build drops about 9k an hour, excluding some surprising drops you could get as a bonus (such as an occasional superior armor or a black dye, which I just got actually, but i don't count it). It's more than any Mino farming. It's easy to do, it's reliable and it can be included in a circle of different farms.

Who can seriously deny its interest? Sure, you're better of with soloing Forest of FoW, but who can say it's easier and that you have constant access to it?

[Fay Vert]

And not just gold. What many people are interested in is farming skill points. For a 2-3 minute run with scrolls you could get 5,000-10,000 XP, easily a skill point every 10 minutes if you could do it reliably (which I can't, I'm about 1 in 4)

[Iskrah]

And not just gold. What many people are interested in is farming skill points. For a 2-3 minute run with scrolls you could get 5,000-10,000 XP, easily a skill point every 10 minutes if you could do it reliably (which I can't, I'm about 1 in 4)
True.
15 * 136 xp = 2040. The run lasts around 1min30 at worst... Add in scrolls and it's incredible. Hell, I never use scrolls and I already got so many skill points in few hours!

[Peligro Puro]

Not a serious farming build?

Skill points
I would honestly like you to find a better way for a ranger to get as much experience as a 55 monk, if not more. I am currently sitting at 4,000,000+ experience, and while there are people out there with more than that, I think it is safe to say that there really isn't a better way for rangers to gain skill points.

Just because a build or location fails to yeild fellblades, green items, and ecto, doesn't mean it lacks in its strength as a solid farming strategy.

[Fay Vert]

Kind of makes you wonder if the people editing and debating the entry have ever tried it. Some imply that they think it's about killing the low level Grawls in Ascalon area :eek:

[Jack Valmont]

I updated the article with images and examples and I clarified a few things that seemed to got lost in some GuildWiki user translations.

Overall, I'm happy with what some of the users did with the article (as per cleaning it up) and I'm happy that it might be unstubbed very quickly--it is a viable farming builds for both exp and steady mid-level farming.

On a final note: The build on GuildWiki is pretty much infallible, and that's because of Pelligro Puro--all credit goes to him.

[Jack Valmont]

As a note to everyone:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/R/N_Grawl_Bomber

This has become an official GuildWiki build, and it does still work since the recent update. Just follow everything the guide says and you'll be farming those Grawl in no time.

[Silent Elvin Ranger]

What did they do to EoE?? I havent tried it in a while...but what makes this build not work now??

[Fay Vert]

I think the effect radius of EoE is now centred on the spirit and not on the Grawl that dies, so many of the Grawl will now be out of range. The solution is to drop EoE after you agro everything at the top of the hill so the radius is as before.

[Jack Valmont]

As a note to everyone:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/R/N_Grawl_Bomber

This has become an official GuildWiki build, and it does still work since the recent update. Just follow everything the guide says and you'll be farming those Grawl in no time.

It still works just like this. It might 2-3 Grawl Crones, but that's it.

[Peligro Puro]

The attribute points on guildwiki are incorrect. The points are as such.
Beast mask with superior beast mastery
Expertise mask with MINOR expertise
10 - curses
9 + 1 + 3 - beast mastery
8 + 1 + 1 - expertise
9 + 1 wilderness

You don't need the extra 1 in wilderness, and this will allow you to have 10 in both wilderness (+8 troll) and expertise, while having the max amount of HP.

[Eragon Dragonslayer]

great job dude i love this build

[Turbobusa]

turbobusa,svovler,& Nightengale. If u guys put me on ur FL and I happen to be when u are(and if on a good comp) I can show u how to do it if u want. I may not pull it off(for some reason it seams to be alot harder to do with 2 ppl) but I can show u how to do it :).

P.S. lol grawl genocide. btw thanks for all the help with this post jack:)

Would we very nice :)
I added you to my FL

tried a few times again , and got problems with MoP (AoE s***** :'( )

[byobodybag]

just getting into the groove of this whole grawl farming thingy, and I noticed that some 3-5 grawls don't die but their lives are way below 3/4's.

what I do is run back out and back in just to collect my loot and rezone. btw, is it just me or there's a lot of dye drops coming from them grawls?

[Iskrah]

what I do is run back out and back in just to collect my loot and rezone. btw, is it just me or there's a lot of dye drops coming from them grawls?
Hey there pal, saw you yesterday there. ;)
It's not just you, you can get a dye every 3 run (got already a black there), and a key every 4 runs. Nothing to complain about!

There's one thing I can't decide on... To recycle or not? I don't know, especially with new prices...

[byobodybag]

Hey Iskrah,
Hehe... yep. Oh yeah those Shiverpeak keys are piling up too..

Was it you i handed the vamp string over to? ;)

[Jack Valmont]

Hehe.

What I do is bascially salvage everything I get then let it pile up over a week or two. Then, at peak time on Friday and Saturday, sell all the loot and make at least 50k.

It's good times. Not to mention all the Intricate Grawl Necklaces. Mm Mm mm.

[Iskrah]

It's good times. Not to mention all the Intricate Grawl Necklaces. Mm Mm mm.
Good for trading for 125 gp items!

[-=Mick=-]

woah brilliant video :D you absolutely floored those grawl. pity they nerfed it so they run from WD

[Jack Valmont]

You're right, sometimes all of the Grawl don't die.

First, visit this website:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/R/N_Grawl_Bomber

Secondly, lay you're spirit as close to the Grawl as possible without aggro-ing any of them.

When you're on the hill, drop the bomb. If they all don't die, run down the near and stand near the Grawl Crones, as soon as one of them dies, they should all die.

Good luck! My IGN is Jack Valmont if you need any help.

[Jack Valmont]

Check the pictures in the GuildWiki guide. You should be standing in the same place. Look at the map layout as well. I hope this points you in the right direction.

[Travis P]

the r/n one is the same effect, and still works, i mastered it in about an hour of practicing, all about timing

[Notorious Rex]

Am i crazy or did they nerf EoE?

[masonchumpia]

Here's another case for the failed EoE. I'm standing in the right hill and I can manage to kill the Grawl surroinding me, but the Grawl Crones themselves are untouched despite the EoE being placed as close as possible. I suppose that the EoE is not being triggered for some reason.

[masonchumpia]

Can anyone actually vouch for this build (R/N) at the current date? One of the main problems that is hard to overcome is actually damaging Grawl Crones post AoE scatter. They run too far outside of the range of Mark of Pain after it is triggered and manage to survive and attack you, leaving you quite vulnerable especially while all of your skills (including Oath Shot) are recharging. Until then, I might advise against trying this build to those who have been considering it as it has a steep learning curve compared to other farming builds and is somewhat expensive to produce according to the GWiki template.

[vncanadian]

nice vid O_O

[Jack Valmont]

After the last update, I immediately went to the area and tried the build. It works fine, but you need to place the spirt in a different place than normal.

Move it over towards the middle of the pathway (to the left) and place it as close as possible.

If the Grawl Crones mobs don't go down after the people around you do, run down the hill and stand next to them. Your Oath Shot WILL recharge in time for you to continiously use both Dryder's Defenses and Whirling Defense. I ran this build many times and it works almost everytime for me.

I'd tell you to come online and demostrate, but I won't be online for a little while.

[masonchumpia]

I'd love to see an in-game demo. I've had some luck at least damaging the Crones by now, but not a single one has died yet in all my practice. Strangely enough, I have been placing my spirit closer to the left (basically, nudging my aggro circle into the little crevice on the map formed by the two crags and dropping my spirit once I can't get any closer). This could possibly be one of the reasons why the Crones are receiving more damage. Nonetheless, they don't actually die after the Grawl have. Running down the hill seems to either a) cause them to spread out more while the effects of MoP are active and/or b) occasionally make me leave the area of spirit effect. I'll try your suggestion of maintaining Dryder's and Whirling further.

IGN Paetyr of Drascir. I've added you to Friends already and I'll hit you up sometime. Thanks for your correspondence!

[Rofl_Pwnt]

I find the recently created R/E build, much easier, sure might be longer, but this is to confusing, in my opinion, Armor > Blind.

Btw: @ I Might Avenge U's Music and the fact that she does "Dambit, Suckas, and Then The Un needed dancing in the end, i found taht imature, really, i couldnt stand the music, or the words, so i just watching till the grawl died, then turned it off, that was enough for me, not you dancing and showing off your vigors and other crap.

Aswell: I know im bringing up a dead thread, ah well, i just couldnt stand it.

[Guan Aco (TAG)]

MAn this thread is gr8, i made the build already be4 a I've read this all but still this is a bit a better guide to some proper farming on grawls, It was pretty hard in the beginning, for me the laying down of EoE is easy (like for ever1) the running is also pretty easy but then up that bloody hill, 1st use throw dirt , then troll unguent (cause it's charging so slow, i lose like 300 hp on this part even with wirling defence on) if i would use TU 1st and then throw dirtI even less survive, then oath shot everything goes well, the reaction goes a bit difficulter but then I keep dieing, really it's hard for me to survive cause T U (even have +8 regen) is so slow to charge .
Btw i guess my armour sux like hell : druids vest = 70 armour (A), but the rest is all 40A except the mask then, yea I know this is a sign of "hey dude ur poor"

[Rofl_Pwnt]

*Hits Thread With Nerf Bat* GG

[Guan Aco (TAG)]

it is weird how fast i sometimes die , but any trick to survive ??? but what i said about my armour, does upgrading to 70 armour do a lot??? probably i'll take less dmg and can longer survive??? + i doubt there is a better healing skill from necro's then Tu ,

[Rofl_Pwnt]

Not that i know of, Unless you can magically get the crones down to 90% HP and get the Grawl Dead Before they regen to cause the EoE chain......

[Guan Aco (TAG)]

But would getting upgrade of my legs, boots, gloves from A40 to A70 decrease lots of dmg, yes or no???

OMG this helped a lot, lol it was worth too but it lol now they don't hit me much and i can survive way longer

[Guan Aco (TAG)]

My next problem is how to kill , even hit those crones that are down the hill??? I kill grawls but the grawl crones aren't even hit, i need to collect my loot and the they kill me but i want to kill them so i can have more loot. How am able to get a reaction on them as well , same time it happens on grawl if possible,???

[Poison Ivy]

Not that i know of, Unless you can magically get the crones down to 90% HP and get the Grawl Dead Before they regen to cause the EoE chain......Mass desease? Rotting Flesh perhaps?

[LagunaCid]

I might avenge you, do have a char with the same name? I think I hohed with you some days ago :p

Anyways... Use the R/E build. Its better, you only die if something goes TERRIBELY wrong. i.e.: you miss the oath shot

[Rofl_Pwnt]

I DO use the R/E build, But if you get to close to the crones they use chiliibians and pwn me (idk how to spell xD)

[Guan Aco (TAG)]

yea well going to try different 2nd profs now , now heard it's actually all dead cause of the nerf but still ppl refusing it works, ok it works for me to kill the melee grawls ( so small loot only) but the crones isn't possible to kill with EoE, even trying to lay it somewhere else still doesn't work. Maybe if some1 can show me off how he does it atm (so with the changed EoE) or send me a recent vid

[LagunaCid]

I DO use the R/E build, But if you get to close to the crones they use chiliibians and pwn me (idk how to spell xD) Well, that means you shoudnt go near the crones :)

[Ima Hob0]

u should power level like this. probably better then trolls

[LagunaCid]

Mass desease? Rotting Flesh perhaps? Plague Signet. =/

[Ima Hob0]

is there anyway to do this WITHOUT Oath Shot? I havent capped it and id really rather not have to cap it...

[Guan Aco (TAG)]

Oath shot is really gr8, fro me it's like 2nd best elite for rangers, Barrage is 1st cause it owns like hell, but Oath Shot is really easy to cap, just do a mish with that infusing in shiverpeaks, kill some lv 28 boss, and you've got it

[Peligro Puro]

This is still very doable, you just have position yourself a bit differently.

[Rofl_Pwnt]

This is still very doable, you just have position yourself a bit differently.

Explain?

[Mr.Kotte]

Try R/Mo, bring Retribution... Put some stats in smiting magic, Whirling defense should kill the nearby grawls. Easy as pie

[malko050987]

I know I'm reviving an ancient thread, but since I've been using this area for Chest Runs and just general relaxation (e.g. Kill stuff until I'm calm), i'd like to know if soloing it is still doable with a R/x build.

So... is it still valid? I'll give it a shot later, when I get off work, but it would mean getting a BM mask, which I currently don't have.

[Evilsod]

Read the description to EoE and use your brain. I think the answer will become clear.

[kicks66]

I know this is total thread necromancy, but basically i want to show a friend what this farm was like, does anyone still have the video posted on the first page called 'Bodies' or something? I had it but formatted my HD about a year ago and lost it, and the putfile link doesnt work anymore :(
Cheers

[MisterB]

I know this is total thread necromancy, but basically i want to show a friend what this farm was like, does anyone still have the video posted on the first page called 'Bodies' or something? I had it but formatted my HD about a year ago and lost it, and the putfile link doesnt work anymore :(
CheersPutfile removed it. The link in the first post still works:
http://files.filefront.com/RangerFarmwmv/;4937493;;/fileinfo.html
There's also a vid on YouTube:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsYqNvxAsMU

Should this be moved to farming and/or closed?

[Marverick]

The farm still works by using [Vengeful Was Khanhei] to drop the Grawl Clones to below 90%.