High DPS Build PvE R/Rt

[Lourens]

[Prepared Shot][Sundering Attack][Penetrating Attack][Forked Arrow][Distracting Shot]["I Am The Strongest!"][Brutal Weapon][Read The Wind](thanks to Shayne Hawke for putting my build into this format ^^)

Im getting around 75 DPS with this build

So what do you guys think of it?

[Abedeus]

Imo change Distracting to something like Natural Stride, Forked to Dual, Brutal weapon to a conjure. And you could a rez.

[Stormlord Alex]

Imo change Distracting to something like Natural Stride... DShot is arguably the single strongest ranger skill out there.
To change it for an unspecced defense stance is silly.
tbh, I rarely run natty/LR/any defensive stance on my ranger in PvE... they end up being unused, stuff rarely attacks rangers.

[Abedeus]

DShot is strong, but on a regular Ranger. If you want DPS, get something like Disrupting Shot.

[Miska Bow]

Pure high DPS


[keen arrow][Point Blank Shot][Zojun's Shot]

If you re interested in purely high DPS go with a vamp short bow for a faster firing rate.


And if you like to see LOT of big yellow numbers go [barrage] [volley] with [heart of holy flame] in Shard of Orr. (a wide screen is recommended)

[Pesi]

was running a similiar build in ab some before.
its good okai DPS.

btw miskav bow, keen arrow ir pure shit, not DPS

[Tyla]

Put Brutal Weapon on a spirit spammer.

[Alex the Great]

if you want the bst DPS, sundering and penetrating and take [point blank shot] and [zojun's shot].


Your build looka mighty good however, to bad i'm deleting my ranger today (his 2nd B-day, had to wait)

[Shayne Hawke]

Considering it's a PvE build, I'm surprised there's no [Triple Shot] or [Dual Shot].

Also considering that it's PvE, henches/heroes are probably going to end up sticking enchants on you some of the time, limiting your use. Your only ways to avoid that would be to switch to using a Conjure, or to play with other people that know not to cast enchantments on you.

Edit: Reformatted the OP's skills into the build format.

[Prepared Shot][Sundering Attack][Penetrating Attack][Forked Arrow][Distracting Shot]["I Am The Strongest!"][Brutal Weapon][Read The Wind]

[Adja1005]

btw miskav bow, keen arrow ir pure shit, not DPS

[keen arrow] is an excellent skill to use with high investments in marksmanship and if you take Paragon heroes using [go for the eyes] its an even better choice of skill to use.

At 16 marksmanship Keen Arrow does +21 damage and another +37 damage if you land a critical hit. So really considering its short recharge and low energy cost i'd say its far from a crap skill to use. But however i do agree its not a spammable skill like Penetrating, Sundering or Needling.

[Melek]

The only problem with [brutal weapon] and [forked arrow] is that if you get enchanted they become useless. In most PvE you will probably be enchanted - things like [aegis] for example. These can seriously hurt the effectiveness of this build.

[Tyla]

That is one thing, and that's why I stick with the standard Turret Ranger.

No enchantments makes me cry..

[Abedeus]

That is one thing, and that's why I stick with the standard Turret Ranger.

No enchantments makes me cry..

Life attunement? ;d

[horseradish]

[keen arrow] is an excellent skill to use with high investments in marksmanship and if you take Paragon heroes using [go for the eyes] its an even better choice of skill to use.

At 16 marksmanship Keen Arrow does +21 damage and another +37 damage if you land a critical hit. So really considering its short recharge and low energy cost i'd say its far from a crap skill to use. But however i do agree its not a spammable skill like Penetrating, Sundering or Needling.

[Sloth Hunter's Shot] is better, simply because the condition for the extra damage is easier to meet.

[Taisayacho]

Imo you can do even more damage with just three skills: [glass arrows][point blank shot][zojun's shot]
And of course bring along [distracting shot]. That's about 70-80 damage on casters per hit.
Sometimes I bring along [brutal weapon], which raises me up to about 100 damage per hit on casters.
Energy is no problem either, and PBS and ZS are spammable.

[Orange Milk]

Taisayacho speaks the truth.

15 Expertise
12 Marks
everything else in Communing

I like to use a Short Vamp Bow with this build, but to each his own.

Add a rez and a PvE Only skill or two, like I Am The Strongest and maybe a stance to the bar and stuff dies fast.

So lets see, with the Att spread above heres what you get,

Arrow 38 base (speculating you meet the Bow Reqirement, have a 15% mod and customized)
Glass Arrows +20
PBS +40
Brutal Weapon +10 (could be more, could be less, depens on your runes/atts
I am Strong +20 (at max Norn)
Vamp String +5

So thats 133 base, for 8 attacks, who knows how much once armor is figured in, don't feel like doing that much math atm, it is a Monday after all.

[Lourens]

Taisayacho speaks the truth.

15 Expertise
12 Marks
everything else in Communing

I like to use a Short Vamp Bow with this build, but to each his own.

Add a rez and a PvE Only skill or two, like I Am The Strongest and maybe a stance to the bar and stuff dies fast.

So lets see, with the Att spread above heres what you get,

Arrow 38 base (speculating you meet the Bow Reqirement, have a 15% mod and customized)
Glass Arrows +20
PBS +40
Brutal Weapon +10 (could be more, could be less, depens on your runes/atts
I am Strong +20 (at max Norn)
Vamp String +5

So thats 133 base, for 8 attacks, who knows how much once armor is figured in, don't feel like doing that much math atm, it is a Monday after all.

With 15 expertise 14 marks and 8 communing im getting about ~76dps
thats not much more then i get with my build and above that you need to get really close to the enemy

[Orange Milk]

When I get home today I'll have to go chuck some arrows at some dummies and see.

How's your energy in that build of your's?

What happens if Prepared Shot misses or gets blocked?

With the build Taisayacho and I posted energy is Never an Issue, infact I don't even run radiant armor when using it, which means I can then run Survivors OR extra armor nsignias so I'm OK being in close.

PLUS I have a Rez, you know, for the Team, I'm a team player.
AND a Stance for a bit of damage midigation, Prolly LR, maybe WD.

So sameish DPS (by your numbers) better energy, better damage miditgation, more health/Armor and the team oriented Rez Sig = More versitle build.

[Cathode_Reborn]

Not sure what PvE skills you have and what ranks they are, but the +dmg Ebon Ward is a good one. Prep Shot should help counter the cost. Your allies will also benefit so you're not the only one getting the +dmg.

Conjures are also good because they're armor ignoring and enchants won't screw you up.

[RotteN]

Thing is, conjure spells (take your pick out of [[conjure lightning@10], [[conjure flame@10] or [[conjure frost@10]) give more extra damage than [[brutal weapon@10]. Surely, you cannot use a vampiric bow then, but at least you can be enchanted (so no sudden drops in DPS). It also lasts longer, less time spend casting buffs = more DPS.

[[glass arrows] is also something you might want to take a look at.

[Brian the Gladiator]

What ever happened to using [[flail] on a machine gunner???

If you're going for DPS... you should probably bring an IAS.

[Lourens]

PLUS I have a Rez, you know, for the Team, I'm a team player.

You can bring a scroll of ressurection just incase

Thing is, conjure spells (take your pick out of [[conjure lightning@10], [[conjure flame@10] or [[conjure frost@10]) give more extra damage than [[brutal weapon@10]. Surely, you cannot use a vampiric bow then, but at least you can be enchanted (so no sudden drops in DPS). It also lasts longer, less time spend casting buffs = more DPS.
Conjures are also good because they're armor ignoring and enchants won't screw you up.

Enchants might screw you up but enchant removal will not,
and with conjure you have to wait like 45 sec till you can use it again and on top of that you can control enchants whereas enchant removal you cannot

What ever happened to using [[flail] on a machine gunner???

If you're going for DPS... you should probably bring an IAS.

Most of the skills i use have a casting time so theres no need for an ias

[Rhamia Darigaz]

What ever happened to using [[flail] on a machine gunner???

If you're going for DPS... you should probably bring an IAS.

for sundering and penetrating shot the spammability is morelimited by the recharge than the attack speed, which is already faster than normal at 1 second activation, so id assume all the +dmg buffs would be more useful than ias.

[jesh]

FYI: Timed skills are still sped up by an IAS.

[Vazze]

[Prepared Shot][Sundering Attack][Penetrating Attack][Forked Arrow][Distracting Shot]["I Am The Strongest!"][Brutal Weapon][Read The Wind](thanks to Shayne Hawke for putting my build into this format ^^)

Im getting around 75 DPS with this build

So what do you guys think of it?


That 75 is probably just the first ~25-30s, as soon as your prep/weapon spell expires you have to renew it and your DPS drops, an when you hit 0 energy it drops below 50.

The highest DPS PvE R build I know of is :
[flail][Point Blank Shot][Zojun's Shot][Sundering Attack][Penetrating Attack][Favorable winds][Expert Focus] (["I Am The Strongest!"] / [Prepared Shot] )

Close to 100 DPS against single target for 24s and it does not drop much on the long range (renew preparation every 24s and you need to use prepared shot once in a while to maintain energy, other than that do not use PS)

The problem is that it is not easy to stay in half-range even with a flatbow especially when I am "crippled" by flail...hitting flail on recharge (every 4s) is also dumb, + I hate having to drop FW before every single mob fight +no utility skill...so I don't play this build :), but 90-100 DPS on ranger is nice.

[Gabriel Kimura]

It doesn't get much better than Conjure/Glass for pure dps. At 14 exp (playing with 16 now just for kicks...) it hits for around 100 dps on squishies and Conjure has the added benefit of being a 1 minute spell... which is huge in clutch situations. Bring needling shot and you're doing some serious damage, although that'll sap your energy like no other.

[shogun avatar]

I'm not on gw currently, but mine ranger for VERY high DPS uses:
Forked arrow
Tripple shot
Glass Arrows
"I am the strongest"
Distracting Shot
Lightning Reflexes

the other 2 slots wary from secondary to secondary

100-150 armor ignoring damage, followed by another 50 and an interrupt? yes please!!

[AfroThunder396]

I find Conjure to be the best DPS for a Ranger.
[Prepared Shot][Expert Focus][Sundering Attack][Penetrating Attack][Sloth Hunter's Shot][Distracting Shot][Conjure Lightning][Resurrection Signet]
Between Expert Focus and Prepared shot, you're able to spam the attack skills with little to no energy loss. A +15% while enchanted and +20% longer enchantment bow works best. Works great, and is pretty low maintenance so it should work well on heroes too. I've also used this in RA, TA, and AB (drop Res for [Point Blank Shot] or a utility skill like [Throw Dirt]) successfully as well.

[Vazze]

I find Conjure to be the best DPS for a Ranger.
[Prepared Shot][Expert Focus][Sundering Attack][Penetrating Attack][Sloth Hunter's Shot][Distracting Shot][Conjure Lightning][Resurrection Signet]
Between Expert Focus and Prepared shot, you're able to spam the attack skills with little to no energy loss. A +15% while enchanted and +20% longer enchantment bow works best. Works great, and is pretty low maintenance so it should work well on heroes too.
:), this is the build that I use on my heroes (one or two skills might be different), they use it well and it is a strong build.

[Tyla]

I would really consider taking a +30hp mod on your bow and getting 20% enchantments on a staff.

Not to mention conjures can be used without staves; they last long enough.

[Rhamia Darigaz]

FYI: Timed skills are still sped up by an IAS.
FYI: i know this already, note that i said sundering and penetrating were more limited, not solely limited, by the recharge. i was suggesting that i think more +dmg would do more to increase his dps than the effect that ias would have on the timed skills.