Ranger PvP Help

[AaronSwitchblade]

Ok, so it's come to this.

Basically, I've been playing Guild Wars since release. Finished Prophecies, most of Factions, part-way through GWEN and haven't got Nightfall (I'm not exactly hardcore).

However, I now want to turn my eyes towards PvP and see if I can have some fun with it.

When I first played Prophecies, I remember trying PvP in the Ascalon Arena at the start, and not enjoying it - and even when I finished Proph, I gave it another go and still didn't like it - not because I thought it was bad, or that it wasn't fun - basically I could never consistently win. That isn't to say I never won, moreover, when I won or when I lost, I was never convinced that it was because of anything particular that I personally did.

A while back I tried Factions Alliance Battles, and as I was a more experienced player, I did find that whether I played well or poorly seemed to influence the outcome - a little - but still, I didn't really think I was doing too much to help.

So, my character is a Ra/Rit, and I'm wondering - how do you play PvP?? Although builds would be welcome, I doubt as a PvE player I'll have most of the skills I would need - for now I just want general advice.

[horseradish]

Rangers are one of the hardest characters to kill because of crazy defensive stances like Escape.

Rangers are a jack-of-all-trades profession through interruption, pressure damage, flag-running, snare tactics, mass degen, and survivability.

There is no real niche. As a ranger, you can fulfill many utlility roles in a single skill bar.

A typical cripshot bar is

Crippling ShotNatural StrideSavage ShotDistracting ShotApply PoisonMending TouchTroll UnguentResurrection Signet

Since ur a Rit secondary, you can switch out Mending Touch with Antidote Signet

With this skill bar alone, you can run flags, interrupt pivotal skills, snare enemies, & spread pressure damage, all while being one of the hardest things to pin down cuz of condition removal and a defensive stance.

Though the majority of rangers in PvP use the Cripshot build, you can make a limitless number of effective builds. I like...

Magebane ShotDistracting ShotScreaming ShotNatural StrideAntidote SignetApply PoisonTroll UnguentResurrection Signet

Rangers are one of the most versatile and powerful professions in PvP. Alls u need is more practice and you'll have a great time.

HF rangering!

[iridescentfyre]

The most effective roles a Ranger can play in PvP include interrupting and spreading conditions. Without Nightfall, you can probably still pull off a relatively standard Crippling Shot build:

Crippling ShotHunter's ShotDistracting ShotSavage ShotApply PoisonTroll UnguentMend ConditionZojun's Haste
Edit: Heh, Horseradish beat me to it. Though he seems to have missed the part where the OP said he didn't have Nightfall.

Use Zojun's Haste in Alliance Battles, replace it with a Res Signet in other forms of PvP. Also, make sure you use a Recurve bow. Monsters don't know how to dodge a Longbow shot--players do.

Don't worry too much about "winning consistently." You will still lose sometimes no matter how much experience you have, no matter how good you are.

[AaronSwitchblade]

Right, I'll need to get crippling shot then. I also want to get Melandru's Arrows, as I don't have either.

[KazeMitsui]

you do know mend condition cant be used on yourself.. which is pretty fail... and yea thats all i have to say not much else to mod since you dont have night fall...

[horseradish]

hehe. oops. Forgot you don't have Nightfall.

EscapeDebilitating Shot or Hunter's ShotSavage ShotDistracting ShotAntidote SignetApply PoisonTroll UnguentResurrection Signet

Oh. Recurve Bow ftw.

That is all.:ninja:

[HuntressNexi]

Rangers are awesome, i'm in the same position as you and am really enjoying learning PvP :)

[lennymon]

Glass ArrowsDual ShotDistracting ShotConcussion ShotNeedling ShotConjure FrostLightning ReflexesResurrection Signet

This also works as a higher damage spiker/interrupter. Get a stinky high level of expertise, and put as many points you can spare into water magic (bout 8 is good). Be careful on how you use Concussion shot as without access to better E-management it will run you dry even at very high expertise. Of course adjust conjure/interupts to suit yourself and have fun. :)

[Brian the Gladiator]

Good Builds for ranger in any pvp game type:

Burning ArrowDistracting ShotSavage ShotApply PoisonMending TouchNatural StrideTroll UnguentResurrection Signet

Expertise --> 12+1+1
Wilderness Survival --> 9+1
Marksmanship --> 9+1

Crippling ShotDistracting ShotSavage ShotApply PoisonMending TouchNatural StrideTroll UnguentResurrection Signet

Expertise --> 12+1+1
Wilderness Survival --> 9+1
Marksmanship --> 9+1

Magebane ShotDistracting ShotSavage ShotApply PoisonMending TouchNatural StrideTroll UnguentResurrection Signet

Expertise --> 12+1+1
Wilderness Survival --> 9+1
Marksmanship --> 9+1

Do you see the similarities between these builds... Ya! These builds truely are the best Ranger PvP Builds.

Some fun ranger builds that don't actually use bows:

Vampiric TouchVampiric BiteOffering of BloodThrow DirtWhirling DefenseDodgeZojun's HastePlague Touch

Expertise --> 12+1+3
Blood Magic --> 12

Hammer BashCrushing BlowIrresistible BlowBestial MaulingRampage as OneComfort AnimalCharm AnimalResurrection Signet

Barbed SpearBlazing SpearMerciless SpearHeal as OneTiger's FuryPoisonous BiteCharm AnimalResurrection Signet

[majiger]

Some fun ranger builds that don't actually use bows:

Vampiric TouchVampiric BiteOffering of BloodThrow DirtWhirling DefenseDodgeZojun's HastePlague Touch

Expertise --> 12+1+3
Blood Magic --> 12

Hammer BashCrushing BlowIrresistible BlowBestial MaulingRampage as OneComfort AnimalCharm AnimalResurrection Signet

Barbed SpearBlazing SpearMerciless SpearHeal as OneTiger's FuryPoisonous BiteCharm AnimalResurrection Signet

DONT DO IT!!
1. Touching is just an easy way to get balth faction, not actual pvp playing
2. Thumpers and w/e the spear one is called, are not actual rangers. They are warriors and paras with higher amounts of energy.

So what im really saying is that they are not real rangers, JUST DONT DO IT!!

On the matter itself, try being a beastmaster.
Don't have a build myself. Just take some condition skills from beast mastery side, like poisonous bite(dont know if that is spelled right), Ferel lunge and compliment them with some bow skills, inturupts, traps, yada yada.
I know that traps are not bow skills...

[lennymon]

DONT DO IT!!
1. Touching is just an easy way to get balth faction, not actual pvp playing
2. Thumpers and w/e the spear one is called, are not actual rangers. They are warriors and paras with higher amounts of energy.

So what im really saying is that they are not real rangers, JUST DONT DO IT!!

On the matter itself, try being a beastmaster.
Don't have a build myself. Just take some condition skills from beast mastery side, like poisonous bite(dont know if that is spelled right), Ferel lunge and compliment them with some bow skills, inturupts, traps, yada yada.
I know that traps are not bow skills...

A Ranger IS expertise, any build which takes advantage of this primary attribute is a Ranger. Because you don't want to play around, don't hinder anyone else. I get FAR more whacky than these builds...

[ensoriki]

....>.>

I did a scythe ranger >.>
Im whacky!!

[iridescentfyre]

you do know mend condition cant be used on yourself..
Oops. Well, I'd never carry Mend Condition personally anyway, I have access to Mending Touch. That's just the non-Nightfall condition removal skill that popped into my head first.

[UnKn0wN415]

I love Thumper can be very useful against those pesky Monks...

only downside about a thumper it needs a healer, since they dont have no defensive stance or healing skils on there bar...

sometimes I bring Lightning Reflexes just in case I dont get a healer in RA...

[Clarissa F]

to the Majiger:

They give secondaries in Guild Wars for a reason. R/Me with BHA/Epidemic, R/N touchie, R/Rt SW/Warmonger's, R/E conjure weapon, and R/Mo for healing skills. A ranger is the closest thing to a Jack-of-all-trades GW has. It uses a lot of secondaries well. Are you saying a ranger, a hunter and tracker in the wild, wouldn't use a spear? I would think they would use the best weapon in any situation.

[Brian the Gladiator]

DONT DO IT!!
1. Touching is just an easy way to get balth faction, not actual pvp playing
2. Thumpers and w/e the spear one is called, are not actual rangers. They are warriors and paras with higher amounts of energy.

So what im really saying is that they are not real rangers, JUST DONT DO IT!!

On the matter itself, try being a beastmaster.
Don't have a build myself. Just take some condition skills from beast mastery side, like poisonous bite(dont know if that is spelled right), Ferel lunge and compliment them with some bow skills, inturupts, traps, yada yada.
I know that traps are not bow skills...

Pretty sure any build using the primary attribute of Expertise is a Ranger so... /fail

Just because they're gimmicky badness doesn't mean they aren't fun.

[Mirt]

Rangers are very flexible, and trapping can be quite viable in PvP with the right group. I've had a fair bit of fun with this build in TA (sometimes swapping natural stride out for Nature's Renewal):

Distracting ShotSmoke TrapBarbed TrapDust TrapFlame TrapNatural StrideWhirling defenseResurrection Signet

[horseradish]

yes, trapping is another option, and it is the most fun i've had on my ranger period.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/General_trapping_guide

ur welcome