View Full Version : Whats the best secondary for a Ranger?
Sir Fat Ant
Dec 31, 2006, 03:16 PM
I've been playing a Ranger - Fighter and have found the combination does not work very well in many areas.
I would like to start from scratch. Would a Ranger - Elementalist be good, with water or fire???
wetsparks
Dec 31, 2006, 04:13 PM
monk is always a good choice as a secondary, rangers have better armor than eles and necros so you will have a better chance to stay alive and a hard rez is alway good. the ele secondary isnt a bad choice but with only 3 pips of energy regen compared to 4 with a normal ele you wont be able to take a lot of spells with you and expect to use them in fights.
drupal
Dec 31, 2006, 04:44 PM
Would a Ranger - Elementalist be good, with water or fire???
Make an Elementalist if you want use much spells, a ranger isn't made for it ;)
R/W = nice stances (dryders, lightning reflexes, whirling defense, shield stance, galdiators defense)
R/Mo = hardres (nice condition counters)
R/Me = can take everything down =P (FoW, UW Solo, Cripshot...)
R/E = a bit more damage w/ conjure <element>, I don't really like the combo, tho.
R/A = basically an sin making use of expertise
R/N = the all hated Toucher -> same as R/A
R/D = Combine the ranger stances with condition spreading and the high melee damage through a scythe
Too lazy for this, happy new year =)
Jetdoc
Jan 02, 2007, 10:32 AM
drupal forgot the one I'm playing with, R/P - the shouts/burning are making my Ranger a pretty fun damager!
XvArchonvX
Jan 02, 2007, 10:52 AM
There are billions of threads asking this question. If you are wondering which element works best with a R/E, then I would suggest going with fire for the following combo:
Barrage
Conjure Flame
Mark of Rogdort
Glyph of Lesser Energy
Xeones The Great
Jan 04, 2007, 03:55 PM
you can always try R/W for IAS and many useful stances, i use frenzy + natural stride =], have fun.
l)l2UNl(
Jan 05, 2007, 01:06 AM
depends what u want if u want damage dealer then go with E as sec and have conjure flame ect.
as for support use Mo for the vigorous barrager build
there are many more and there is really no BEST secondary. IMO rangers dont need the secondary most of the time
Maria The Princess
Jan 05, 2007, 01:18 AM
R/mo is good cuz ranger is pretty much self suficient and rebirth often comes in handy
R/me is my second favorite for resistance stances (also mantas) and enchant removals
Epinephrine
Jan 05, 2007, 08:42 AM
The best secondary for a ranger is X
R/X is by far the best, as it has the power of whatever you need, and the flexibility to become what's needed. Truthfully, there is no reason, excepting early in the game, to peg yourself into a role. Look over the skills, acquire what you need, and don't be afraid to change it up. Last night my ranger was a R/D at first, then a R/A, then just an R really; a few days before it was an R/P and an R/W, and I also run as others when needed. Since for many combinations (particularly spell casting) you only need a few skills it's easy to have them as a viable switch; you want the flexibility to go touch ranger to solo a bit? Capture one elite, buy about 4 skills and presto, you have what you need. You want to play with Fevered Dreams, spreading conditions? Go for it, just change class, cap the elite and have fun. Unless you are really into role playing and can't envision your character switching roles like a schizophrenic every time you play there is nothing stopping you. I'd be so bored playing the same role every time - variety is the spice of life.
Physical
Jan 09, 2007, 01:05 PM
Well I prefer to be a R/Mo because I started my ranger in prophecies and you get alot of skills quests there. Normally I change my second a lot but overall I needed monk skills most.. So 'getting the monk skills from quests and buy the rest' was for me the cheapest..
Sunbear
Jan 09, 2007, 02:21 PM
As stated before, there really is no "best" secondary for the ranger.
I really think the ranger is the only class that can stand alone by itself.
I mean, almost all of my ranger builds use mostly or only ranger skills. But, I usually find myself going back to Ra/Mo or Ra/Rit just for the hard rez.
For a really fun combo, I use one of my necros as a curse.
Splinter Weapon + Mark of Pain + vampiric weapon = muchos fun
But also, because rangers have high armor, are not considered "high" priority targets, they tend to be the survivors and thus, having the hard rez is definitely useful.
andrewf
Jan 12, 2007, 09:36 PM
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centur
Jan 18, 2007, 01:33 AM
I love my R/Rt Barrager with all that weapons spells =)
ChuckNoble
Jan 26, 2008, 05:50 PM
I like R/Me Because you can use epidemic to spread poison or whatever other condition a ranger inflicts making them a good condition spreader while keeping distance. u can also use echo's with your traps to farm in pve.
horseradish
Jan 26, 2008, 07:27 PM
Why is this thread alive????? 0.o
Tyla
Jan 27, 2008, 04:59 PM
R/Mo because of mending touch..../close please?
Eldin
Jan 27, 2008, 05:09 PM
My ranger is R/Me. More interrupting awesomeness, many skills to help with trapping and conditions, etc.
Though in all truth, I have found Rangers to be highly well-rounded on their own. They can farm, run, interrupt, etc...
Regardless of what profession you choose, you will not find yourself making use of its skills often.
Yichi
Jan 28, 2008, 12:33 AM
Why is this thread alive????? 0.o
I like R/Me Because you can use epidemic to spread poison or whatever other condition a ranger inflicts making them a good condition spreader while keeping distance. u can also use echo's with your traps to farm in pve. because this dipshit rez'd it
Redvex
Jan 28, 2008, 05:19 AM
Ritualist = Splinter weapon + Barrage (and some more)
Mesmer = Spam condition with epidemic
Dervish = Ebon dust aura + volley
Paragon = Heal As One Spear chuker
Elementalist = Conjure Flame
Necro = Touch ranger
Monk = mending touche/healing breeze (pvp)
and manymore....
blue.rellik
Jan 28, 2008, 05:20 AM
I like /Mo for Mending Touch or /E for Conjures. I would rather bring a Rt or a /Rt for Splinter weapon than splitting attributes too much
Wakka
Jan 28, 2008, 05:39 AM
Paragon = Heal As One Spear chuker
Please dont
Necro = Touch ranger
Please dont
Monk = mending touche/healing breeze (pvp)
Please dont
Redvex
Jan 28, 2008, 05:56 AM
HoA Spear chucker works well in RA.
Touch ranger for farming is good sometimes.
Healing breeze i never used it but i see many people using it.
But you can't negate the effectivity of HoA spear chuker giving constant damage and degen (poison, bleeding, burning)
Stormlord Alex
Jan 28, 2008, 06:19 AM
Healing breeze i never used it but i see many people using it.
Many people also rely on tank n' spank or Ursan to beat PvE.
Conclusion? Many people are incredibly bad at GW.
And.. weren't HaO spearchuckers originally... Hero builds because they're too retarded to run a BA properly? :confused:
Seriously, I can't see a compelling reason to run a spearchucker over a BA on a real human (well, Cripshot/Magebane atm). DShot is too strong if you know how to use it, and the survivability offered by Nat/Troll/MTouch far surpasses HaO.
Wakka
Jan 28, 2008, 06:43 AM
But you can't negate the effectivity of HoA spear chuker giving constant damage and degen (poison, bleeding, burning)
Non-monk profession, heal skill as elite? That's just a stright up no
Redvex
Jan 28, 2008, 06:59 AM
Non-monk profession, heal skill as elite? That's just a stright up no
Heal and ress pet instead to carry tw0 skillz. Try it
Wakka
Jan 28, 2008, 07:04 AM
Heal and ress pet instead to carry tw0 skillz. Try it
I have done, it's terrible.
Redvex
Jan 28, 2008, 07:09 AM
I have done, it's terrible.
Mmmm i think that it was fun than interrupt ( i mean FUN not EFFECTIVNESS).
Playing with interrupt ranger after a while my finger have a tic :D
iridescentfyre
Jan 28, 2008, 09:52 AM
Mmmm i think that it was fun than interrupt ( i mean FUN not EFFECTIVNESS).
Playing with interrupt ranger after a while my finger have a tic :D
What is it with people on this forum and thinking that effective builds and fun builds are mutually exclusive?
Wakka
Jan 28, 2008, 09:57 AM
What is it with people on this forum and thinking that effective builds and fun builds are mutually exclusive?
For some effective builds to be fun (im talking of a normal Bow Elite/Savage/DShot/AP) it has to be played to a certain level. If you don't reach this level the build will become tiresome and frustrating and you'll probably ditch it in favour if a so-called "fun" gimmicky 1-2-3-4 build e.g. Spear Chucker Heal As One.
Redvex
Jan 28, 2008, 02:05 PM
For some effective builds to be fun (im talking of a normal Bow Elite/Savage/DShot/AP) it has to be played to a certain level. If you don't reach this level the build will become tiresome and frustrating and you'll probably ditch it in favour if a so-called "fun" gimmicky 1-2-3-4 build e.g. Spear Chucker Heal As One.
The central point is that there's no a mid good interrupter. Or you are a good interrupter or you fail. And to play a good interrupter you must be concentrated.
If you wanna some relax playing ra or ab HoA spear chucker is the way since it easy to play.
In anycase interrupter depend also from the other player team. Even if you are the best interrupter in gw RA can be frustrating. Things change in TA
lennymon
Jan 28, 2008, 03:47 PM
R/D of course :)
12+1+1 expertise
10 earth prayers
8+1 marksmanship
This is really about as good as that pve prot para with tntf/sy at damage reduction except vs all caster groups (for those just throw in concussion shot for savave). Does this one count as 'gimmicky' Wakka?
Ebon Dust AuraAura of ThornsVolleyCalled ShotDistracting ShotSavage ShotPoison Tip SignetResurrection Signet
Amy Awien
Jan 28, 2008, 04:57 PM
Looks like a variant of Ebon Dust Arrow that also used to cripple, iirc, this Volley variant is less gimmicky then the old one though, which spread blindness and crippling with Harrier's Grasp (talk about spreading attribs...).
lennymon
Jan 28, 2008, 05:03 PM
Yrah we vanquished 3 areas with the monks sleeping yesterday since the melee foes spent 90% of the time blind (except when we pulled all crazy).
Wakka
Jan 29, 2008, 03:43 AM
Does this one count as 'gimmicky' Wakka?
Not really. Its a bit mindless but i've tried something along the same lines before and know it can be effective in melee orintated areas.
3246251196
Jan 29, 2008, 11:12 AM
I don't know about you guys but, personally, I prefer using no secondary profession when it comes to PvE. For PvE I use pure ranger. Furthermore, thought I love Ranger more than any other profession I do not like using it for PvP or Farming. Thus, I only ever use pure Ranger. In fact, I am dissapointed how I can not erradicate my R/Mo from my name. I would just prefer to have R20 :)
lennymon
Jan 29, 2008, 03:59 PM
I like playing guild wars, where people can choose from all 10 primary professions and the other 9 for secondary. This allows a player to make strong characters and to somewhat balance the weak points of any primary profession. But like everything else in guild wars, there is no 'best'.
Steps_Descending
Jan 29, 2008, 04:32 PM
I am dissapointed how I can not erradicate my R/Mo from my name. I would just prefer to have R20 :)
Are we teh only one who would like to ba able to do that when they have Zero pts/skills from their secoundary?
Of course that doesn't mean droping it completely, just being able(bluff is alway a good thing) to hide the secoundary.
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