D/A running build

[Seraphim of Chaos]

I was recently ran from Beacons to Grotto with all the stops. My runner was a graduate of TBA or The Blue Academy. He showed me The Forgerunner customized by Lady Blue Steel. I'm guessing given at graduation.

Back on topic, he had a very good build. I was wondering if this was common. I researched his skills and they seem to be...

Vow of Silence {E}
Harrier's Haste
Mystic Regeneration
Vital Boon
Harrier's Haste
Dash
Death's Charge
Fleeting Instability

Equipment: Malinon's Shield and a Totem Axe
Is this new? Or is it common?

[I Might Avenge U]

yea that sounds quite new but waht do i kno. well if he graduated from TBA then he must be prty good. i wonder how it runs. I say it's fairly new.

[Ivan Darklord]

A Dervish is a non stop runner, really good. By the way, nice running build.

[Kotetsu Rain]

I was recently ran from Beacons to Grotto with all the stops. My runner was a graduate of TBA or The Blue Academy. He showed me The Forgerunner customized by Lady Blue Steel. I'm guessing given at graduation.

Back on topic, he had a very good build. I was wondering if this was common. I researched his skills and they seem to be...

Vow of Silence {E}
Harrier's Haste
Mystic Regeneration
Vital Boon
Harrier's Haste
Dash
Death's Charge
Fleeting Instability

Equipment: Malinon's Shield and a Totem Axe
Is this new? Or is it common?

So TBA's name is coming back up again eh? I say it's bull****. ^^ Feel The Slipstream is the one who taught me this build long before TBA even tried to run it. (I'm about 99.9% sure about this looking at Seraphim's posting date.) Even so there are more and more Dervish Runners popping up now-a-days AFTER Slipstream made up the build and ran like the wind and dazed many wammo beleivers. Either way I don't beleieve taht alll the credit goes to Lady Blue Steal period.

[eiri yuki]

this is vos's build, and it rocks, he's bin teaching me the runs aswell

[Seraphim of Chaos]

So TBA's name is coming back up again eh? I say it's bull****. ^^ Feel The Slipstream is the one who taught me this build long before TBA even tried to run it. (I'm about 99.9% sure about this looking at Seraphim's posting date.) Even so there are more and more Dervish Runners popping up now-a-days AFTER Slipstream made up the build and ran like the wind and dazed many wammo beleivers. Either way I don't beleieve taht alll the credit goes to Lady Blue Steal period.
I never said that the day he ran me was the day he made the build. Y_Y

[Kotetsu Rain]

I never said that the day he ran me was the day he made the build. Y_Y

Well I don't like them... I'LL TAKE ANY OF THEM ON!!!!! Though word in-game is Lady Blue Steel hasn't been on for a long time.

[sau970982]

I was recently ran from Beacons to Grotto with all the stops. My runner was a graduate of TBA or The Blue Academy. He showed me The Forgerunner customized by Lady Blue Steel. I'm guessing given at graduation.

Back on topic, he had a very good build. I was wondering if this was common. I researched his skills and they seem to be...

Vow of Silence {E}
Harrier's Haste
Mystic Regeneration
Vital Boon
Harrier's Haste
Dash
Death's Charge
Fleeting Instability

Equipment: Malinon's Shield and a Totem Axe
Is this new? Or is it common?

Excuse me... but there're 2 "Harrier's Haste" :confused:

[WhiteLightHealing]

Hmm. not bad but , i would prefer Dervish/ War, as a running skill, equid with any +30 hp - 5(20%) ,, +5 E 20/20 enchantment+30 hp, or something close to that. I been running with dervish from beacon to droks with these skill.

Vow of Silence
FeatherFoot Grace
mystic regeneration
Fleet stability
Balance stance
harrier Haste
Enchated haste
and sprint..

[Russell.Crowe]

most obvious running build ever... could have made that by looking at the skills for 5 minutes...

I still really don't like the death's charge part of this build tbh

[Seraphim of Chaos]

most obvious running build ever... could have made that by looking at the skills for 5 minutes...

I still really don't like the death's charge part of this build tbh
Death's Charge is used to get past trolls and have no chance of getting stuck.

[superman with a bow]

does any 1 know the atts for the D/A running build?

[blood warrior killa]

Yes, TBA is back and running. We are a very good and reliable guild. The Dervish that ran you was Vos Goes Dervish a very experinced runner, we know how to run. We make life easier@ :cool:

[Coloneh]

this is the build i have seen used and am currently using.
Dash
Enchanted Haste
Harrier's Haste
Extend Enchantments
Fleeting Stability
Vow of Silence
Mystic Regeneration
Viper's Defense(not sure if anyone else uses this one but it helps with body blocking)

my current attributes
| Mysticism | 10 + 1 + 1
| Earth Prayers | 10 + 1
| Wind Prayers | 11 +1

Totem Axe + stanced bonus shield

Use extend=>mystic regen or stability if you need it=>VoS=>dash+run until dash ends=>Enchanted Haste or Harrier's Haste


I haven't made droks solo yet, but i can run everything elese that i have tried

[Vos]

Hiyas all, this is Vos Goes Dervish....

yes it proably was me who ran you, and heres my build (for Droks)....

Harrier's Haste
Dark Escape
Dash
Death's Charge
Mystic Regeneration
Fleeting Stability
Vital Boon
Vow of Silence (E)

Totem Axe and Malinon's Shield

Any armor with all Energy Insignias

7 Shadow Arts
11 Wind Prayers
11 Earth Prayers
12 Myticism

And I made this build a day after Nightfall came out, so i doubt "Feel the Slipstream" made this build before me. Although, I was not in TBA when I made the build, I ran one of there Officers, and was invited into the Guild. I graduated in 3 or 4 days, so that explains the customized Forgerunner. If you want I can make a in-debt post of my build, since I have plenty of time.

[Vos]

but now for South Shiverpeak Tour I use:

Holy Veil
Faithful Interventions
Mystic Regeneration
Vital Boon
Vow of Silence (E)
Harrier's Haste
Enchanted Haste
Pious Restoration

Same Weapon and Armor as above

12 Myticism
11 Wind Prayers
11 Earth Prayers

but once I reach Copperhammer Mines, I switch Holy Veil for Mending Touch and Pious Restoration for Extended Enchantments.

[r4z0rlike]

Vos 1 question, why Holy veil if you have Vow of Silence that preotects you from all hexes?

[Vos]

Vos 1 question, why Holy veil if you have Vow of Silence that preotects you from all hexes?

Because Vow only lasts 10-12 seconds (depending on your Myticism) so, while in the aggro of a Heretic, you need to recast. Crippling Anguish is the Mesmer Elite they use to slow you down, it's a One Second Cast. BUT the Heretics have stats in Fasting Casting, making it a 2/3 a second cast. Therefore the the chances of them getting a Anguish on you during the 1 second recast window is great. But Holy Veil makes Hexes twice as long to cast, making the cast great than 1 second, and keeping you Hex free.

[r4z0rlike]

NVM, i think ill just try many many runs, and then ill edit it with good questions :)

[Coloneh]

could you explain a little on your droks build, like when to cast death's charge, and how/what order to use the running skills. thanks

[r4z0rlike]

Well im trying the build right now, and every few runs i get a bit further. and Coloneh, i use it like this:Mystic regen-Vital Boon-VoS then Harriers Haste for approach, and when i get hit alot i use Deaths Charge. When the group keeps following me, i use Dash to get away. When im in a group with Ice Golems or any other that slow you down i recast VoS. Then once im in a quit spot i do it all over again.

Also, when the Wurms appear i take a second and first cast everything, then i cast Fleeting Stability.

[Coloneh]

well my main problem is when to use death's charge since its a spell(VoS), I did make it with the build once, but it was on a dual run(actually a full running group but all the others died almost instantly) with a perfect spawn.

(edit)I'v gone back to using my build(posted on previous page) its easier to me

[r4z0rlike]

@Coloneh, The Death Charge is to not get stuck at the trolls. and since they don't cast spells you don't have to keep it up. But you can replace it with any other skill since its not essential

Vos, i have to thank you. After one and a half day of learning what to use where, i ran Droks. didn't have much trouble actually. If you know what skills should be used where, its not too hard.

[Ember010]

iv seen this build in action and it is really effective. And a running academy?? ehh what now?? lol never heard of it.

[Coloneh]

I have never heard of TBA either but i have used RR a few times, they are very good to but i dont think they would welcome dervishes.

[Fenrus]

I actually recently created a new Ele for prophecies and had someone run me to Droks using this build. I will say, it was hands down, the FASTEST run, I have ever seen done, especially since that last running nerf that really hurt solo W/Mo's.

Shame I cannot remember the name of the runner, or I'd give him kudo's here. If that runner remembers a Lowbie E/Me (Atomic Gas Cloud)...feel free to speak up and claim you kudo's... that was an awesome run.

But yes, this build works, and works very well.
*yeah, I just created a Derv just for this too* We'll see how long anet allows it to go before it gets nerfed too. ;)

[P A L P H R A M O N D]

I was recently run from Beacon's to Droks by a Dervish with almost the exact same build, only difference was Shadow Refuge in place of Death's Charge. He had no problems at all, the build worked incredibly well. And after running on my Warrior and being run by Warriors for that run, I have to say that the Dervish seems to do it much easier than a Warrior. All told, I am tempted to think that a Dervish can do anything a Warrior can, if not better. With Mystic Regeneration, and Avatar of Balth, a Dervish can take just as much aggro as a Warrior, although a Warrior will still have the benefit of higher armor. But in any case, I'm sure that Dervish's will be the best runners, once people practice with them and have it all worked out.

[CagedinSanity]

I saw a D/A run droks, it was a dual run with the standard warrior runner, and the D/A. The warrior died twice and the D/A didn't die at all. I was highly impressed.

[Kotetsu Rain]

I was recently run from Beacon's to Droks by a Dervish with almost the exact same build, only difference was Shadow Refuge in place of Death's Charge. He had no problems at all, the build worked incredibly well. And after running on my Warrior and being run by Warriors for that run, I have to say that the Dervish seems to do it much easier than a Warrior. All told, I am tempted to think that a Dervish can do anything a Warrior can, if not better. With Mystic Regeneration, and Avatar of Balth, a Dervish can take just as much aggro as a Warrior, although a Warrior will still have the benefit of higher armor. But in any case, I'm sure that Dervish's will be the best runners, once people practice with them and have it all worked out.

Yup it's pretty much all true. It's like starting a new class. I have an undefined love for melee professions and had to change my ENTIRE strategy when I decided to make a Mesmer. It's the same concept here as a Dervish/any running Droks.

Before the update I used to run as a R/W. So I'm not used to having hex removal or charging right through giant aggros, or even enchantment removal/covering. As all Drok runners I was used to the Instant cast of my anti-KD. (Blanced Stance) With my switch to a D/A I had HUGE postives and a handfull of negatives. This is my build for those who want to see some more custom builds:

The New Age of Drok Running:

Attributes:
Wind Prayers 12
Earth Prayers 9
Mysticism: 12
Shadow Arts: 6

Gear:
-Armor doesn't really matter as long as it's max.
-A Rajazan's Fevror (or Totem Axe) for the enchantment increase and a running shield. (I like Stalwart Carapace Shield)

Skills:
1) Natural Healing
2) Enchanted Haste
3) Mystic Regeneration
4) Fleeting Stability
5) Vow of Silence
6) Harriers Haste
7) Dark Escape
8) Dash
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It's customized to my personal preference of running. I always run for speed so i don't really waste time with covers and the such. The only mandatory skills are Vow of Silence , Fleeting Stability, and Mystic Regneration. I use Harriers Haste over Featherfoot Grace because it's a stance. Enchanted Haste may seem as total taboo thanks to all the enchantment removal in Lonars Pass but it get's the job done where needed.

Happy Running

[erick5876]

I've been playing around with a D/A spiker, and I recently got a run from a D/A from Beacons to Droks. This person was stupid good. She did half of the run naked (except for a gingerbread focus), and a quarter of it topless. I was very curious about her build, and she happilly told me:

Vow of Silence
Fleeting Stability
Mystic Regeneration
Dash
Dark Escape
Enchanted Haste
Death's Charge
Harrier's Haste

Armor looked to be Primeval, with a gingerbread focus. She never held a weapon. I will admit, I've had faster runs from a R/W, but none did it so... easily. It's only slightly varied from Vos's build. I was just amazed at how the runner didn't even bother with armor for half the run.

[Backspace496]

one from wiki:

VoS
mystic regen
fleeting stability
vital boon
faithful intervention
deadly paradox
dash
dark escape

its pretty dam successful, almost 80% chance of making it, and im no pro at running lol.

[Kelly G]

I used to run Droks as a warrior, but have had trouble since the Nightfall nerf. I recently built a dervish character for running, and have just started using basically the same build that Vos is using in this forum with some but limited success so far. Two issues I run into is 1. no real defense against traps (so obviously avoid them if possible), and 2. at the end of Lornar's where there are the huge mobs of Ice Golems, Pinesouls and Grawls, you can either stay left through the Grawl or right through the golems pinesouls(thereby possibly getting trapped). In many instances my fleeting gets shattered through the grawls, I get knocked down, and game over. One way through this, I've found, is getting rid of death's charge and replacing with conviction-another armor boosting enchantment---and then burying fleeting below as many enchants as possible just before going through the Grawl. This works, but still is tight through there. Does anyone else have better, and smoother ideas in getting through those last huge mobs at the end of Lornars? Thanks in advance for any discussion on this! Other than that.....great build, and so much superior to running as a Warrior. (just cant wait for the nerf any day now.....;) Also, this should be a sticky IMO for fellow D runners.

[ohboy]

feel the slipstream here

someone referred me to this thread


i gotta say that although i may not be the first to make it with the dervish, i think i'm certainly ahead of vos on this one. I had the build done when the skilllist was released, and the day nightfall came out, i was going at it with the dervish, powerleveling.

Vos appeared on the scene about 2 weeks after i first started running it reliably. He was either keeping a low key, or sucked bad if he started running ppl with it when he claims to, coz at that time, dervish runners were big news(lots of unbelievers, lots of debate)..and i knew most, if not all, dervish runners at that time. Vos appeared somewhat second generation.

And I feel the need to share this tidbit with you guys. This guy PM-ed me out of the blue one day. Forgot his nick. Anyway, he told me Vos trained him to be a dervish runner. His ad(i remembered because it sounded BS) claimed a almost 100% chance of making the run. So anyway, he PM-ed me one fine day and asked me how to get past the first worm tunnel. When i fired back, asking him why he claimed such a high chance of success when he obviously couldn't run it for shit, he told me Vos adviced him to advertise as such. This may not reflect much of Vos's quality of run(indeed, he should be running at close to 100% success with the new changes in the run), but i think it definately is a reflection of his character.

Anyway, I don't want this to turn out into a flamefest. I haven't touched guildwars for months, and I logged in today just to see if any of my friends are on. I prob won't be playing anymore anyway. Just thought I'll share my experience regarding Vos with you all.

ps: don't be confused by the death charge and all that crap. I found I only needed like 6 skills to run the gauntlet on this one, so I was just adding random skills. Interestingly enough, the moment I changed my random skills, they started popping up in the mainstream.

[Mickey]

So TBA's name is coming back up again eh? I say it's bull****. ^^ Feel The Slipstream is the one who taught me this build long before TBA even tried to run it. (I'm about 99.9% sure about this looking at Seraphim's posting date.) Even so there are more and more Dervish Runners popping up now-a-days AFTER Slipstream made up the build and ran like the wind and dazed many wammo beleivers. Either way I don't beleieve taht alll the credit goes to Lady Blue Steal period.

Slipstream was the first, I got to say, I was the second with my R/D build, someone stole it from me though :mad:

Had it all set up with Rangers, then that Period Max guy or whatever posted the build, their goes my credit, he beat me to it, hehe = )

Hell, you can ask TBA about me, ask them about Slickshot Slim, and they will tell you that I made the build, especially if you ask someone with the intials of P---- A-- L---, but whatever.

[l)l2UNl(]

Because Vow only lasts 10-12 seconds (depending on your Myticism) so, while in the aggro of a Heretic, you need to recast. Crippling Anguish is the Mesmer Elite they use to slow you down, it's a One Second Cast. BUT the Heretics have stats in Fasting Casting, making it a 2/3 a second cast. Therefore the the chances of them getting a Anguish on you during the 1 second recast window is great. But Holy Veil makes Hexes twice as long to cast, making the cast great than 1 second, and keeping you Hex free.

actually it will lst 12 seconds with 15 myth and the extended enchant. This gives a 2 second time period to recast it and the enchant takes only 1 second to cast. if you recast right when the skill recharges it will be on you by the 11 second mark so it really never ends. Tho veil is still useful just so u dont mess up

[ohboy]

actually it will lst 12 seconds with 15 myth and the extended enchant. This gives a 2 second time period to recast it and the enchant takes only 1 second to cast. if you recast right when the skill recharges it will be on you by the 11 second mark so it really never ends. Tho veil is still useful just so u dont mess up

you obviously never used vos before, and i'm wondering why you're giving advice on using it.

you cannot cast spells when under vos. It doesn't matter even if it lasts 20 seconds. There will still be a 1 second downtime between consecutive casts of Vos.

[Xeones The Great]

THE build of builds:

15 mysticism
11 earth prayers
10 wind prayers
5 shadow arts

Faithful intervention
fleeting stability
mystic regenration
vow of silence
enchanted haste
harrier's haste
dark escape
dash

make it everytime unless i get uber-leet-lag-glitched by the trolls.

BTW, ppl, have u ever ran through a group of trolls, and ur way past them, but ur still getting hit like ur in the group? then u suddenly warp bak there and die. if Anet fixes this, i would actually say while advertising 100% success rate. lol.

[Stormlord Alex]

BTW, ppl, have u ever ran through a group of trolls, and ur way past them, but ur still getting hit like ur in the group? then u suddenly warp bak there and die. if Anet fixes this, i would actually say while advertising 100% success rate. lol.

Yup... I'd probably blame lag. If I see it happening, I see what happens if I use a skill... That seems to work, warping me back.

[Mark Nevermiss]

Its definitely not lag, its a game bug and it hasn't been always this way.

[ooarmsoo]

Imps give me the biggest problem, I am D/A. What would be the best way to get past them? I use:

Dash
Harrier's Haste
Dark escape
Fleeting Stability
mystic regeneration
Vital boon
Deaths Charge
VoS

I get caught by maelstrom and they are able to remove my VoS and weigh me down. Is there any way to run by w/o this happening?

[canto]

THE build of builds:
BTW, ppl, have u ever ran through a group of trolls, and ur way past them, but ur still getting hit like ur in the group? then u suddenly warp bak there and die. if Anet fixes this, i would actually say while advertising 100% success rate. lol.


Happens to my 55 with the GOK unded HM spot.

[Yuhe Ji]

Nice thread rez. [/sarcasm]
Anyways, that's called rubberbanding, what the poster above me said. You think your character has gone somewhere, but s/he really hasn't and eventually it will show that the avatar has gotten stuck somewhere. And for the poster above that, they cannot possibly target you with maelstrom when VoS is on. And if they do, you could, you know, move? If they get mind freeze on you, then you already messed up.

[Subbie]

This build excists for ages now :S
Everyone is like using it to run Drok's, wich I find bad, because they only can run to Drok's :P
Own builds FTW ^^

[blurmedia]

This build excists for ages now :S
Everyone is like using it to run Drok's, wich I find bad, because they only can run to Drok's :P
Own builds FTW ^^

I explored all of Tyria and Elona (with the exception of wurm areas) with a build like this. I'd definately say it can run more than just droks. Unless you mean the players ~~

[Tender Care]

Because Vow only lasts 10-12 seconds (depending on your Myticism) so, while in the aggro of a Heretic, you need to recast. Crippling Anguish is the Mesmer Elite they use to slow you down, it's a One Second Cast. BUT the Heretics have stats in Fasting Casting, making it a 2/3 a second cast. Therefore the the chances of them getting a Anguish on you during the 1 second recast window is great. But Holy Veil makes Hexes twice as long to cast, making the cast great than 1 second, and keeping you Hex free.

I'm also Derv. and do many Droks run, what u said about VoS casting time is not actually true 100%. With 12 mysticism u got VoS lasting 9 secs so with a +20% enchants weapon it last 10,8 secs, so it means that u can put it on eternally if u want :D there's no need of using Holy Veil if u got a fast casting spell-breaker like Vow of Silence. The only problem in running with VoS is that if an Heretic, for example, is casting Crippling Anguish in the same moment u cast VoS u probably get it and u cannot stop casting VoS so u will be hexed, slowed, and probably u wll be killed cos u cannot either cast a regen or a remove hex or something to heal. I had a bad experience while running and taking a Anguish only because i casted mistic regen before. Btw when i'm solo farming HM some mesmers in NF also using anguish most time i'm able to cast mistic regen and then again VoS in 1 sec. No kidding :D

My runing build is only made by derv skills and some Gwen skills:

vital boon, mystic regeneration, enchanted haste, signet of mystic speed, fleeting stability, I am unstoppable (norn rank 10), armor of the great dwarf(deldrimor rank 5), Vow of Silence

*note double anti-knockdown skill: stability and i'm unstoppable; this is just to make easier and faster to have an anti-kd skill always on (i'm unstoppable is a shout +20armor,can't be knocked down and crippled) cos when shadows spawns u cannot stop in the middle and casting fleeting stability (1 sec casting) and having giants attacking you. Note also that u may pass over a trap done by pinesouls spirits in Lornar pass, then is really the end!!:D so i'm unstoppable is really useful.

Mysticism: 12 (recover 4energy when enchants ends)
earth prayer: 12
wind prayer 11

Gemstone axe of enchant 20%, +5 energy
Amethyst aegis of devotion, +45 hp while enchanted, -5dmg/20%

I also made some HM runs in NF and FoW with this build!

Pls pm for any info

@ Subbie: it's not true that only derv/sin can run Drok! u can do it even with only derv skills!! Dervish Power!!!!

[Glocken Speil]

@ Subbie: it's not true that only derv/sin can run Drok! u can do it even with only derv skills!! Dervish Power!!!!

That is true, pretty much anything can run droks. Even a Rit :P

Harriers Haste
Enchanted Haste
Fleeting Stability
Mystic Regen
VoS

You just have to have Dervish as second profession.

[faraaz]

I use:

Vow of Silence
Pious Haste
Dash
Dark Escape
I Am Unstoppable
Death's Charge
Dark Prison
Shadow Sanctuary

Fastest & best running build for anything other than Droks run...for droks, swap out dark escape for fleeting stability.

/skillz :cool:

[Talonz]

That is true, pretty much anything can run droks. Even a Rit :P

Harriers Haste
Enchanted Haste
Fleeting Stability
Mystic Regen
VoS

You just have to have Dervish as second profession.
Actually going /D doesn't give you access to Mysticism points, so you'll only have VoS up for a little more than half the time. I've seen a lot of stuff run Drok's though, regardless of /D. Warrior of course, ranger, monk, even mesmer. It's just that their efficiencies and easy of use vary!

[Seraphim of Chaos]

This build excists for ages now :S
Everyone is like using it to run Drok's, wich I find bad, because they only can run to Drok's :P
Own builds FTW ^^
I posted this in 2006. Maybe that's why. Nice thread rez guys.


Oh wait...

[Age]

Hmm. not bad but , i would prefer Dervish/ War, as a running skill, equid with any +30 hp - 5(20%) ,, +5 E 20/20 enchantment+30 hp, or something close to that. I been running with dervish from beacon to droks with these skill.

Vow of Silence
FeatherFoot Grace
mystic regeneration
Fleet stability
Balance stance
harrier Haste
Enchated haste
and sprint..

How well would Balanced Stance be compared to Fleeting Stabilty and how does one use that skill well?

[Tyla]

Fleeting Stability is maintainable whereas Balanced Stance is not. I'd use a staff based on the use of PvE skills and off-attribute requirements (Deadly Arts, for example) so I also have a chance of reducing casts and recharges too.

[IvIariJuana]

I run while drunk to to work drunk title while i open chests

DRUNKEN MASTER
Mental Block
IAS
Holy Veil
Mystic Regen
Watchful
Faithful
VoS ---> I can complete any run without dying

[daze]

looks like the wiki build i have had saved in my templates for about 2 years now. I'm surprised it would be updated a bit now with EotN skills,
[I am unstoppable]
or even drunken [dwarven stability] would be a better choice because it increases you other stances duration for longer sprint times.

or even [dwarvin stability] + [drunken master] for the really long stance. dont forget the booze

[Expherious]

Charging strike FTW