The New Layout

[natuxatu]

Not sure if this is where I post it but I just wanted to say I really like the new layout. It looks very polished and nice.. so yeah good work~ :)

[Inde]

Thank you natuxatu :)

[Zakarr]

I prefer the old one. Some colors are a bit too bright for my taste. :(

However, the tabs above are a nice addition. Fast access to useful information.

[Quid Pro Quo]

I like it! Very neat and proffesional. Great job.

[artay]

Same, i like the new light brown. Although i do kina miss the old darker colour.

[Stellar StarElven]

I love the new layout, however...what did you do with the search option?

[Makkert]

Thumbs up. looks neat, good work to all that spend their precious time to it.
:)

[arredondo]

Looks fantastic. Kudos to all involved.

[Darcy]

Where is SEARCH?

Otherwise great job?

[Skuld]

I love it :]

The forum rules link is missing from the header bar, and i'm not sure if post count is supposed to be showing.

[leeky baby]

i like the post count being show, so leave it ;P

[Scorpion Boy]

Good job on the new lay-out. Looks very nice with my new screen :p

[Stormweaver]

Fantastic! The web site looks great!

[EternalTempest]

I love the new skin. Great Job :)

Only think I did notice the edit post button won't work with Firefox 2.0 (I have to right click and open in new windows)

[Queto]

Very nice! I love it :D

[Wrath Of Dragons]

Im linking it too. Glad the loading issue was straightened out

For those of you who dont like it, go to the bottom left corner of the screen, and select version 1b (or a) which is the old skin.

[X of Thulcandra]

It's nice to have a fresh new look, but something in this theme is screaming "GWOnline!" to me. It's probably the color tones and the menu bar, but that's just my two cents.

[kzap]

Version 2B is the old colors with the new header, this would be the prefered look for those who dont like the new colors

[derrtyboy69]

<3 the new look, and <3 the fact that i can go back to the classics when i want to.

:eek: I have more posts than inde

[Gwmaster]

agree it looks very nice :)

[Sergio Leone]

Love the new layout guys! Thanks to all who put their hardwork into it. The post count addition is AWESOME! Now I can glamour at pwn's million+ number next to it ;)

My only issue is I can't look at the "Find more posts started by (insert name here)" thing. It used to be WAY better a while ago when you could see everyone's past posts. That was before I breaked from the game. Then before the forum change it was just the threads started. Now it says I don't have access to that section of the forums. Is that just something that needs to be fixed or will we really not be able to look at that?

P.S. I preferred the old way where I could see everyone's recent posts.

[Kityn]

Fantastic :)

[Malice Black]

Like the new look. Well done.

[big papi]

also like the skin nice work :)

[Alias_X]

Looks nice!

Good work, and keep it up!

[AncientLord]

For me it looks:

Wery professional.

Nice looking.

It gives the look of gw.

Easy to find info u need.

Only negative is slow page working, but i so this is working on it.

Regards.

[Trvth Jvstice]

The forum is loading really fast right now, but I imagine, it being a weekend night many GWGuru posters are out or playing the game :) .

When I was on earlier today, around 11am (central) I was a little slow, but not enough to be an annoyance.

[Sergio Leone]

The post count was removed =/ Is that for everyone? Is it possible to toggle it on and off? I really liked it.

[Enchanted Warrior]

I'm in the biz, and this looks really nice indeed. I did a double take, as I've been gone for a few. Really good job!

[-LiamB]

The post count was removed =/ Is that for everyone? Is it possible to toggle it on and off? I really liked it.

I sure hope there is, I loved seeing everyoines post count - I knew what rank it was to change post, Inde, Kzap, Please put it back in!

-LiamB

[Darcy]

I also liked the post count.

[kzap]

i think the general consensus is post count makes people compete in posting which just generates spam which noone wants.

[milan]

Really like the new format, scared the living daylights out of me as I upgraded my graphics card and then came here not having seen the change previously and wondered what my new card was doing to me!

Forums loading faster than ever too. Great work.

[TheLordOfBlah]

Love the layout, good job.

[Terra Xin]

wow, It's like walking into the Garden of Seborhin^^

nice work!

[Dreikki]

I just accidentally put it on, or someone changed it for me.

Looks pretty amazing imho. I really like the colours and it looks better than the old one.

[Commander Ryker]

Wow, very nice! I didn't even know it had been changed til I saw this thread. My short cut goes right to the forums. Very good job. ^5

[Sergio Leone]

i think the general consensus is post count makes people compete in posting which just generates spam which noone wants.

Was there an increase in spam after the post count was added? I didn't see much personally. There is always the spamming in the off-topic section but that's all I really noticed, but it's been that way forever. I was thinking it might be good to try it out and see what comes of the post count, if there is an increase in spam or not.

[KindredPhantom]

The new layout is nice but it's a shame that the auction site hasn't had the same layout applied to it.

[Sniperz53]

Ehrm I may sound like the only douche bag on the forums here but I have noticed quite a few problems with this new layout and I thought I would bring them to your attention.

This post is going to be geared towards those of you that designed this template ;) as some people wont understand what I am talking about.


#1 Ads...
This site is becoming ad infested, there are now over 5 ads located on the main page, 2 of which I feel can be completely removed (the one within the main post {most annoying thing ever and something that should never be used} and the one along the side). One of the main ways to make money from ads is to blend them into your site, all of your ads stand out like a sore thumb and are incredibly distracting to your users. Try camouflaging them more, you will in turn make more money and have less complaints.

#2 Display...
The site renders differently on IE and FF, the first post, atm extends wayyy to far down the page and hence alot of users will not read the entire post. Another thing is that the site does not even come close to validating in xhtml, a web standard now adays. If you guys payed to have this created I would suggest paying a small amount more to have this template validate in Xhtml
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guildwarsguru.com%2F
This way the site will last for the next few years as the big browsers make changes to their internal coding.

#3 Style...
The site seems to be a bit different than the previous layout. The old layout had a 'guild wars feel' to it, unfortuneatly this new theme is more 'glassy' and follows the current trend in website design. Unfortuneatly this trend offers nothing in terms of relations to GUild Wars, guild wars is far from what people would call a 'futuristic' game and I feel this site has been designed for just that.

#4 Loading Times....
For me atleast, atm the site is slower than it once was, dunno if this the same for everyone.... could be the fact that there are 3450 members online XD

Again everyone is going to have different opinions on the layout, I have a negative one and am voicing it in hopes that certain things will be heard XD A hint, start with the ads, your going overboard on them, remove the text ads... they are stupid and the ones in posts... they are stupid and unneccessary.


Sorry if I offended anyone XD

Thanks

Sniperz

[Inde]

We are doing tests on ads right now, and have been for the last several weeks. The ad you see on the front page right now is something we are looking at and not something permanent as of yet.

The ads you are seeing in the posts and the text ads were because you were not logged into the site. Registered users do not see the ads or the intellitxt when they log in.

The new look of the site extends beyond Guild Wars as GuildWarsGuru.com is part of a network. We are currently revamping all the MMO Guru network sites for a consistent theme.

The loads times are because of an increase in traffic with GWO being down temporarily today and the Wiki being down. We performed some server updates not more than 3 weeks ago and had some issues with the latest site update but these are continually being addressed.

We are continuing work on the template for some issues as well as getting the auction system template update ready to go as well.

[I pwnd U]

The loading times are slightly slower but not so much that it will kill you. The first couple days it was horrid but it has picked back up lately and is fine. I really like the new layout. It is nice. Good job on it.

[kzap]

actually I think the ads blend it a lot more with the new design, with this design the content is nearer to the top so you see it right away, also ads load last after the page loads. Incase you noticed the disable ads button, such a feature will be available shortly

[Sergio Leone]

I personally don't see the ads. I mean, I know they are there and they are in my visual but don't make a difference. Maybe it's just me but my eyes (like on any site) reject and see what I'm looking for.

[Malice Black]

I'm glad you removed post count from view..mine is getting a little too high lol

[Stalker Haras]

Nice to see people are enjoying the new Skin. They have been putting up with us mods for a while now, yelling at them on what to fix. :p

[Sergio Leone]

I just realized that with addition of the new skin I can no longer view the "Find all posts/Threads from Such and Such person" stuff. It says I don't have access. Is that going to be changed or was their a reason to eliminate it?

[kzap]

in the memberinfo? have yet to update that

[Enchanted Warrior]

Bug report:

The tabs atop each page only display the mouseover effect, once when viewed in mozilla 1.7.13. If you would like an alternative that is less code heavy, cotnact me via pm and I can send you a css solution (free of charge of course), that can make using alternate skins easier.

[Inde]

Enchanted, we had a loading problem with the tabs. We were pre-loading everything and it was causing significant load on the server and forums so they wouldn't cache. We had to go with a on mouseover event versus on load to reduce the number of simultaneous hits.

[Enchanted Warrior]

Check your pm's

[MetalHawk]

first few days site was loading extremely slow, now it runs very fast (finally, I was really getting pissed off with constant timeouts whenever I read something). New skin is nice, clean, simple & effective. Thumbs up, keep up the good work.

[natus]

Does the new skin not work with firefox, or is something just wrong on my side?

[Enchanted Warrior]

I use moz and it's ok.

[MetalHawk]

It works ok with firefox 1.5+

[Sergio Leone]

in the memberinfo? have yet to update that


Yes that is what I was referring to. Alright, glad to know it's going to be changed =)