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Livingston

09-27-2006, 09:14 AM

If you wish to submit your maps for checking please see tomorrow's service thread at the following link:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10155598

Note: After some of the recent updates and the announcement of GW2 I've decided to move to Lord of the Rings Online as I tried it in beta and it's pretty cool. If you do see me on it will just be me popping in, but don't be shy, say hello. ^_^

A huge Thank You goes to SilentVex and tommarrow for volunteering to check people's maps in the past. And here's hoping for their full recovery from any brain and eye damage acquired in the process. :D

A big congratulations to Zophar for being the first person we know of to achieve the Elonian Grandmaster cartography title and for winning the 10K prize! And a big congratulations to Garethporlest18 for being the first we know of to beat the game. :D

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This is a thread for those who want to become a Grandmaster Elonian Cartographer by uncovering 100% of Elona themselves. This means not having to ask someone else to point out spots that you have missed. A hassle? Perhaps, but tell me, doesn't a title like GRANDMASTER Cartographer fully embody the epitome of coolness when YOU are the one who has found very little tiny spot on your map?

That's what I thought... So let those pesky spots cower before your all mighty wall hugging skill.

In this thread I will show you "exactly" how to do this by providing you with information based on crazy skills gained from comparing literally 100s of Canthan maps as well as months of research as detailed in "Livingston's Guide to becoming a Grandmaster Canthan Cartographer!" (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10032479) (psst go here if you want to truly conquer Cantha :D)

Note: If you message me in game and I don't respond, I'm not being uppity, I'm more than likely comparing maps with a full U map (or have fallen asleep at the keyboard) and won't see or hear your message. If I don't respond, simply leave a message and if I remember to check when I'm done, I'll either try to message you back or PM you here, so leave your GWG screen name. :D

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In Elona there will be areas that have fog on them that seem like you should be able to uncover, but you won't be able to. Don't panic it's ok. You only need to uncover the areas that you can uncover; you won't be able to unfog the entire map. Thus the first step in becoming a Grandmaster Cartographer is of course to figure out which areas can indeed be cleared and then proceed to clear as much fog from the map as you can, without having to hunt around for specific spots. There are a few keys to achieving this:

1) Hug the walls!!! Every single area you go to, including outposts. Hug the Walls! This means that you need to travel around the edge of each and every area you come to. This will not only uncover most of the fog within the area, it will also uncover bits of fog that are outside of the explorable area, including water and small islands close to the coast. Most areas that people miss are found by extreme wall hugging. So no matter what area you are in, grab a wall and show it some love.

2) Make sure that you enter every mission area to explore within it's borders.

3) Hug The Walls!!!

4) Most "Enter Mission" areas have an explorable area that you can only access once you have completed the Enter Mission. Make sure that you explore these as well, as they will often have areas that were inaccessible during the mission. Also, do not be content to simply do the mission and leave the exploring for the explorable area, as some missions may not have explorable areas, or may have areas that are not accessible within the explorable areas. To be sure you must Explore Everywhere!

5) Hug The Walls!!! Your passion in this should make the Mesmers and Paragons blush. ;)

6) When hugging the walls, Walk Slowly! If you run it, you can easily skip over little corners and juts that you would have hit had you walked, and these are usually the places that people miss. Slow and steady wins the race!

You can also accidentally skip over these areas if you are not using the keyboard to move, as mouse walking is extremely inaccurate. If you are not facing the wall that you are exploring, then you are doing it Wrong. Facing the wall (at least a 45' angle) will ensure you hit every nook you can. Otherwise you can pass them up even when going slowly.

7) You might want to try hugging the walls, I think it could help...

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If you do all of these things, all of the time, you should actually come out with 100% explored once you have completed the game and have accessed all the areas.

However, no one is perfect and it is very easy to miss many of the more difficult spots. In fact most people will probably end up missing the same exact spots. If you even loosely followed my seven steps above you should have most of the map done with your initial exploration of the game through to the end.

So how do you go about finding all of those pesky little spots that will clear the rest of the board? You let them behold the majesty as you follow the next directions. :D

The following method (coined by Leighwyn (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/member.php?u=20173)) requires the least amount of external program assistance, though it is yet to be seen if it is the most efficient; as it was with Cantha and less so with Tyria (which has more efficient methods).

All we need is a 100% map to compare to:

Map 1 (http://www.gothic-rose.net/Guildwars/NF_map_1280.jpg)

Map 2 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35154&d=1162646510)

Map 3 (http://gw-qnet.basiq.org/img/maps/GW_NightFall_Final.jpg)

You should right click on the above links and select Save Target As, and save it somewhere on your hard drive that you can easily find.

Map 1 and 2 should be the primary map used for comparing as it was made using the U maps.

Map 3 was made using the normal map, thus it should be used mostly for second reference.

Open guild wars and enter the game with a character that has completed Nightfall. You should then put the game into windowed mode by clicking the middle icon in the top right corner, to the left of the "x." Now press the "U" key in order to open the mini map display. Next, drag the mini-map to the top left corner of your screen, then click on the bottom right corner of the min-map and drag it down and out to expand it, fully covering your entire window with the mini-map. It should look something like this:

Windowed Mode.jpg (http://www.gothic-rose.net/Guildwars/Windowed Mode.jpg)

Now open the 100% map that you saved from above in "Window's Picture and Fax Viewer" (or whatever program you have that will allow you to zoom in on the photo). If you have Windows XP then it should do this automatically when you open the file.

Next, zoom in on the map until the image is as close to the same size as the one on your mini-map as is humanly possible. Once they are the same size, you can begin the comparison process. Simply line up your mini-map with the same area on the 100% map, so that they are in the EXACT same position. They should overlap perfectly. Now when you switch back and forth between them, you should see the exact same area in the exact same place, like this:

Mini-map (http://www.gothic-rose.net/Guildwars/Tab In.jpg)
100% Map (http://www.gothic-rose.net/Guildwars/Tab Out.jpg)

Tab back and forth between the two while staring at the borders of the area. If you are missing a spot in that area, your eye should notice the very slight difference between your mini-map and the 100% map and go straight to it. Take note of the exact area you are missing and then go get it. If you do this with your entire map, you should have no problems finding the last spots that you need to get your title.

Make sure to use the U mini-map and Not the full map that you get when you press "M." The full map contains clouds that will obscure your vision and mess with your eyes when trying to pick out color and shape variances. It will also show the outpost emblems which can obscure areas that you need.

Another thing to note is that it is much easier to set up your 100% map to the area you want to examine, and then move your mini-map to line up with it, as you can easily drag the map surface back and forth on the mini-map in order to line things up. Also in case you weren't aware, and many people aren't, you can use your mouse's wheel button to zoom in on your mini-map to have a closer look at specific spots.

This method is far superior to having both maps side by side and simply looking back and forth, as your eyes will not hold the images as readily, and you will lose a lot of information in the back and forth movements. If you use Leighwyn's method and rapidly switch out the images, any spots you are missing should jump out at you.

A tip from Leighwyn:

"Sometimes when comparing maps, the only thing that appears different is the shadowing. A big example of this (In Cantha) is the region between the SW and SE corners of Nahpui explorable and mission area, respectively. That little region of empty space has the slightest change in shadowy hue when you fully reveal it. Another example of this rare phenomenon is the western edge of the Jade Brotherhood, docks, headquarters, island, thingamabob, which is clearly seen on a zoomed out map (the wonderful line glitch) but on a zoomed in map, only changes the water ever so slightly."

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A variation of this method is to save pictures of your own map and compare it to the 100% map with an image program. If you have an image program and know how to use it, simply open the 100% map in your program and then open an area of your map as another layer that lines up with the 100% map. Then switch back and forth between the layers. Sometimes putting Guildwars into windowed mode will warp the color a bit, so this method may allow you to pick up things you hadn't noticed in windowed mode. If you don't know how to do this, then stick to the first method.

Leighwyn suggests IrfanView, it's free to download here:

http://www.irfanview.com/

Make sure to unclick the google software when installing, unless you actually want (the tool of the devil!) it.

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Another method, which was introduced to the boards by LuXa (now know as Sab), is very popular with Tyrian cartographers, but less so with Canthan, as the nature of the Canthan map makes this method less effective than it is with Tyria. The topography of Elona seems to be more akin to Tyria than Cantha, so this may prove to be the most effective method to use for Nighfall.

In order to use this method you must have an image program with the proper functions and know how to use them. This is a method only for those who understand what I am talking about when reading this. If you don't understand it, then you should stick to the first method.

You need one of the following 100% zoomed out maps. Choose the resolution that works best for you:

1600x1200 (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/wtf/gw268.bmp)
1280x1024 (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/wtf/gw269.bmp)
1024x768 (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/wtf/gw270.bmp)
1440x900 (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/wtf/1440.bmp)

It may take awhile to download, as these are bitmap files, which are needed in order to make the most out of this particular method.

Since I can't explain the process any better than Sab has, I will simply link to her explanation of the method. Just use the Elonian Maps above instead of the Tyrian maps that she links to. Here it is:

LuXa's Method (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1424787&postcount=273)

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If you have used this guide and found success with it, please make a post here and let me know about it. Also feel free to post a small screenshot here of your character with the Grandmaster title, if you used this thread to achieve it. ^_^ Make sure your pic is around 396 x 609 pixels, and absolutely no bigger than 640 x 984 pixels, as it will warp the thread and is against GWG board policy.

If you use what's in this thread to the fullest and still come up short, or if you really can't go through the hassle of earning the title yourself, then please read the next post below this one. Also the third post down is a Q&A post that I will be updating regularly with common questions concerning the Grandmaster Cartographer Title, so check it out if you get stuck.

If you couldn't get the title using the information on this thread, please let me know what else you needed so I can add it here. And of course any other suggestions for changes or additions are more than welcomed.

Special Thanks To: SilentVex, tommarrow, lakatz, Myster Grim, =HT=Ingram, Leighwyn, Sab (LuXa), and Juhgis.

This map is from =HT=Ingram and is an estimation of the comparitive sizes of the world maps:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8992/gwworldgw3.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gwworldgw3.jpg)

Edit by SnipiousMax
Here is another great post by ddust.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3100920&postcount=1402

It shows the 'walkable' portion of the area boundaries! One of the best resources I've seen to date.

Livingston

09-27-2006, 09:15 AM

If you have followed all the directions from the post above and have checked all the Q&A below and you still can't uncover that last little bit, do not abandon all hope, there is still help for you (at least when it comes to getting the title :p).

First make sure to recheck your map for these commonly missed areas. (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/wtf/common.jpg)

NOTE: There are currently no volunteer map checkers in this thread. As such, RTSFirebat has requested that no one post maps in this thread.

If you need your map checked, Livingston provides the service for a fee at the following thread:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10112904

Livingston

09-27-2006, 09:18 AM

General Questions

1) Is there anything I can do while mapping that will help make sure that I get everything?

Well of course you have to make sure that you wall hug every single border in every area including the towns. But there is something else that you can do, as pointed out by Silent Vex (the second on this thread to achieve the title). If you open your U map, you can zoom in on it by using your middle mouse button (if your mouse doesn't have one, Abaddon should be arriving shortly to devour your soul). When you zoom in you should be able to see that the uncleared areas have a smooth texture to them, where as the cleared areas look rough and grainy. Thus you should look for any smooth areas near or overlapping walls, and try to clear that area.

Another thing you can do if you seem to be missing spots and can't find any fog, is to go through all of the portals that lead from one mission to the next the opposite way than what you have done before. Or you can do this while you explore. Each time you go through a portal go back through it from the other direction, apparently this may add extra % even if you don't see it uncover any fog.

2) Are there any places that I need to uncover that I won't be able to see by looking at the fog on the U maps?

At this point there isn't any specific areas that are like this, however you should make sure to explore the middle areas of all regions thoroughly as there have been reports of players who even though their U maps seemed to be clear, they ran through the middle of the area and gained more percentage points for it. So don't rely solely on the overlapping mapping of the boarders to uncover the middle of areas. Make sure to actively explore these places as well.

3) Do you have to beat the game in order to achieve the title?

Yes you can achieve the title before finishing the game. However, you will have to do a very good job at mapping everywhere for this to happen. You also need to make sure to map the areas in The Remains of Sahlahjaif mission using the wurms. The ending cinematic has also been reported to give anywhere from .0-.2%. Though .0% has been the most reported gain.

Beating the game also gains you access to the back area of the Chantry of Secrets which will net you .1%.

Location Specific Questions

1) How can I get to the following areas?

http://www.gothic-rose.net/Guildwars/how2explore.jpg

For the moment, only Elonian born characters can access this area, and part of it can only be reached through the tutorial.

This area is similar in nature to the Monastery Overlook in Cantha, which can only be reached by native Canthans or by attending the Dragon Festival games. Whether a similar event will be held for Elona that will grant access to this area as well, is yet to be seen.

It does count towards the exploration title, however you do not need to get this in order to achieve the title.

2) Are there any missions that you have to map, which do not have an explorable area?

Yes, the Remains of Sahlahja.

Here is a little mini-guide courtesy of Silent Vex for mapping this area:

1. Set up with a build to solo a lvl 20 blood necro and a couple running skills, enter mission.
2. Dance with the little girl, re-enact the fight, and kill the lady with the rare artifact (do the other 2 mini-games if you're going for bonus), and go talk to the princes.
3. After the cut scene, all the guards blocking the stairs will have left their posts to attack the Skree.

Now's your chance to simply run outside and explore the whole zone.

Dynastic Tombs is also only accessible through the Remains of Sahlahja challenge mission.

*Minor Spoiler*

Tihark Orchard mission allows you to access Garden of Seborhin. You won't be able to access this area in the explorable areas unless you have royalty with you. Lucky for you, Tahlkora happens to be the daughter of Prince Mehtu, and thus qualifies you for entry. So either map the area when you go into the mission, or make sure to bring Tahlkora into the explorable area.

3)Does exploring the areas that are accessible by opening doors in The Remains of Sahlahja challenge mission count towards the title?

Yes.

4) If so, what's the best way to explore them all?

The Remains of Sahlahja is a challenge mission where you have to use a wurm to score points in order to open doors. Scoring 60 points will unlock all 4 areas.

You should explore each area immediately after opening a door. This way if you die while exploring an area, you won't have wasted all the time opening the other areas.

It should also be noted that the doors open in a random order each time, though some may seem to open first on a more frequent basis.

As such you may choose to score enough points to open one door, explore the area, kill yourself, and then repeat until you have opened all of the doors. It is up to you to decide if it's easier to get all 60 points or to keep on dying and hoping the first door to open is one you don't have.

5) Are there any areas specifically that do not count towards the title?

The Realm of Torment does not count towards the title.

6) Are there any areas that people commonly miss?

The Dynastic Tombs and Poisonous Outcrops are often missed on the wurm paths.

Mournblade

09-28-2006, 09:48 AM

So where's your version of the 100% Preview map?!? This is a map thread, right? =)

Livingston

09-28-2006, 01:26 PM

So where's your version of the 100% Preview map?!? This is a map thread, right? =)

:p

I believe that one is provided on the front page of this board. Unfortunately I had to work during most of the preview event.

Thank you,
Livingston

DynaBlue

09-28-2006, 01:46 PM

Has anyone checked to see if NF maps are checkable via the Tyria-style difference engine or does it require the Canthan map-flipping method?

Mournblade

09-28-2006, 02:40 PM

If the rest of Elona is desert and brush like the intro island, then it will be hard to do a difference map, I would guess. The more 'hard edges' there are, the easier it is to see the differences. It also depends on how large the total Elonian map is. Cantha is smaller than Tyria, so it was harder to see details on the zoomed-out map.

Regardless, the community will find a way to make it easier on folks. I have faith. =)

Leighwyn

09-28-2006, 06:00 PM

Has anyone checked to see if NF maps are checkable via the Tyria-style difference engine or does it require the Canthan map-flipping method?

I didn't actually save a zoomed-out Elona map (doh), only put together the zoomed-in one. If, however, someone has an image of one on their computer I or someone else can check.

Or we can just wait a month and find out :p

Livingston

09-28-2006, 10:06 PM

I didn't actually save a zoomed-out Elona map (doh), only put together the zoomed-in one. If, however, someone has an image of one on their computer I or someone else can check.

Or we can just wait a month and find out :p

I did get a zoomed out one, but I don't think there's much point in it at this stage as we don't really know what cleared landscape will look like other than on the island, and it might even change. I'll go ahead and post it though when I have more time.

Edit: Done :)

Livingston

Leighwyn

09-28-2006, 11:17 PM

Looks good so far...like I said, I don't have a copy of my own zoomed-out map where everything is complete, this is just based off Livingston's blank map and another I found which had barely anything explored....

But so far yeah, things are looking up for those who prefer it. Of course, things could be completely different on the mainland, as Livingston said, and this method STILL won't completely tell you every detail you're lacking, just most of the general regions you need to work on; alt-tab is always going to be best for that. But hey, sometimes people just want to know those general areas and off they go.

RTSFirebat

09-29-2006, 01:26 AM

I've added this to sticky, but closing is for now. Its just getting a lot of +1 post counts which have nothing to do with this being a Guide.

Livingston just PM me when Nightfall gets closer to release and I'll reopen then for you. Or PM me to open it so you can add information to it.

Livingston

10-27-2006, 05:29 AM

Open only a few hours and already I have updates.

Added a couple new maps to the OP. Should be very informative.

Of course a commonly missed spots map scheme can not be created until we have enough people who first have 100%, then enough people trying in vain to get 100% so we can see what spots they can't seem to find.

Unfortunately I will be very far behind in mapping Elona to 100% myself, as I am working too much, and because I refuse to zip through the game with elite guild groups or even with PUGs.

I have a personal rule that I must solo the game before I'm allowed to group with others in it as I find the game extremely too easy when grouping with other players, and I like a challenge. I use henchmen only if I see no possible way to get my character (W/E) through a mission without them; though I may use the Hero's regularly in Elona simply for the novelty of exploring their uses and system, though if I find the game to easy with them, I'll dump them and save them for another character to use after I complete the game.

That being said, I will still be gathering all the information relevant for this thread, which funnily enough doesn't actually require me to do any mapping myself, though it will certainly help once I do have it done.

So lets see those 100%!

In the mean time, if you have any questions about mapping Elona, please post them here. Also if you have seen anyone else post any questions about mapping Elona and they have received good answers, please post them here.

For the moment I simply wish to gather all the relevant information on mapping Elona and stick it all here for easy access.

Livingston

Livingston

10-27-2006, 06:34 AM

I'm offering a 10k prize to the first person that shows me their Grandmaster Elonian Cartographer title, and provide good pics for me to display here of their U maps.

^_^

Luciora

10-27-2006, 02:09 PM

Livingston

10-27-2006, 03:59 PM

That is very generous of you. I think this is worth me opening a PayPal account...

:p

In Game Money Thank You!

:evil:

And if anyone gets any wise ideas to come looking for me, I do own a Katana and have trained extensively in its use.

:evil: So bring it on Margarine Boy (http://www.gregfiering.com/migraineboy/strips/margarineboy.gif)! :evil:

lol the games been ot for a day and u guys just care bout mapping

Actually, if you read Livingston's post, you'll see all he cares about is everything BUT mapping..............

LOL, pretty much personally, as that would involve me speeding through the game, which is simply against my religion.

Though as far as what concerns me about what other players are doing, that's pretty spot on.

If you take a look around the board, you'll notice a severe lack of posts from me virtually anywhere else besides the cartography threads, and the specific forums that contain them.

Think about it like this. For every section of the game there is a small group of people who are decidedly obsessed with that little corner of the gaming experience. Thus from these people come the most abundant and detailed knowledge of said corner. So yes in relation to this board we/I only care about mapping, but that's because that is what I have decided to do here. Other people only/mostly care about their little corners.

So by all our Powers Combined, I am Captain Pl... ummm I mean we have a whole lot of in depth knowledge about every aspect of the game.... :o :D

Livingston

Cyclades of Knossos

10-28-2006, 12:54 PM

I'm on 39.2% and counting.

EDIT: 51.2%

EDIT: 60.5%

EDIT: 79.1%

EDIT: 99.7% and a bit stumped...

Doom Runehammer

10-28-2006, 11:44 PM

Last I checked, I was only at 38%, but that's because over 2 days of playing, I'm at the Mouth Of Torment outpost. So all of my map is just what's been explored on the way. I'll start mapping tomorrow ^^

SnipiousMax

10-29-2006, 08:48 PM

I've been mapping as I go this time! Truth be told, it's made the game alot more enjoyable.

TechnoSword

10-29-2006, 10:13 PM

I've reached 100% canthan because of your guide, and so far I've beaten nightfall which I loved way better then factions btw. Anyways I've gotten 47.9 explored soon and Alot of spots I can still explore so I'll see what I can do for you.

garethporlest18

10-29-2006, 10:25 PM

Last I checked I was at 52%. But I have a lot more to explore.

Luciora

10-30-2006, 01:31 AM

Made my way through Modok Crevice (Sp?) and am on 55% now. Mapping every bit as I go which helps a few quests :) I like the fact that there are a few quests that forces you to go into the different areas. Need to find someone to do the Refuge mission though, can't get into the middle fortress in the explorable area :(

Zegorzalek

10-30-2006, 09:37 AM

In taking my time, checking out the local flora and fauna and taking pics along the way, my dual GMC has 22% on the Isle of Istan also, though I did poke my head into the Moon Fortress for a moment... so I may be over about .3 or so. HOWever, I have been unable to get the little bit in the starter training area, and the 2 islands in the far North of Mahtani Keys (that show uncovered on the map that ships with the game) have no land-bridge access. Also, the sunspear arena does not appear to have any access person. So, looking in the threads for any the "scoops" this morning! Happy exploring Cartographers!!!

gabrial heart

10-30-2006, 10:33 AM

I have about 60 and I'm not even to the wurms yet.... hmmmm It seems the island is about 20% +/-2. I did however explore the top half of the Desolated area by way of the mines, there are bridges that take you over the poison land, but there are mad mobs up there.

SnipiousMax

10-30-2006, 11:29 AM

my dual GMC has 22% on the Isle of Istan also

Agreed, I ended up very close to 22 or 23% for the Istan Isle.

There were some spots however that I couldn't see to get to. There are places were the portals jump over a certain distance on the map... I'll have to look at my map to give specifics, but I'm curious if there is a way to clear the stuff in between the two portals.

RTSFirebat

10-30-2006, 12:09 PM

Agreed, I ended up very close to 22 or 23% for the Istan Isle.

There were some spots however that I couldn't see to get to. There are places were the portals jump over a certain distance on the map... I'll have to look at my map to give specifics, but I'm curious if there is a way to clear the stuff in between the two portals.

Which two portals?

Could you provide a screenshot of what you mean.

SnipiousMax

10-30-2006, 01:15 PM

Here we go, I can't find a way to clear the areas between the two portals.

#1
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/Snipe_photos/Mysteryarea1.jpg

#2
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i317/Snipe_photos/Mysteryarea2.jpg

Any ideas? Does the area in #2 become a mission or outpost later in the game? Thats a rather sizeable gap.

kyrasantae

10-30-2006, 01:57 PM

That's just the way it is, I think, it's not exposed on the CE map either.

lennymon

10-30-2006, 05:44 PM

Regarding the mappage of interportal dimensional space:
Has the recall to flagged heroes 'feature' been removed?

Lost

10-30-2006, 05:54 PM

Regarding the mappage of interportal dimensional space:
Has the recall to flagged heroes 'feature' been removed?
When a henchie runs through a portal they are now teleported back to your location.

garethporlest18

10-30-2006, 07:09 PM

Well after a long long night, I have 90.5% explored so far. I'm sure the other places are tiny spots, I mean I didn't wall hug every area I was getting sick of exploring.

Cyclades of Knossos

10-30-2006, 07:15 PM

While exploring in lower Forum Highlands I found a freaky cracked wall with a pulsating glowing light behind it.

No way to smash it open and no idea what's behind it.

I took a screenshot but can't seem to shrink it down.

If anyone else has seen it let the speculations begin :D

garethporlest18

10-30-2006, 07:23 PM

TheDriftingSoul

10-30-2006, 07:31 PM

Does anyone know if you can get into the sunspear arena that is on the CE map? I have 99.9% and cant figure out anything I missed except for that one spot.

Zophar

10-30-2006, 08:21 PM

Here you go... Wasn't too hard to get...

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1745/gw034af3.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw034af3.jpg)

kyrasantae

10-30-2006, 08:43 PM

You are teh win. That's awesome.

skretth

10-30-2006, 08:46 PM

grats :)
care to post a large scale in depth map (1024x768 or 1280x1024) so ppl can diff from it?

Coocks

10-30-2006, 08:56 PM

Now that's a real PvE man!

SilentVex

10-31-2006, 12:29 AM

I've been stuck at 99.9 all frickin day, but I thought I'd post a mini-guide on exploring the only non-straightforward zone, that being Tihark Orchard mission. You have to do it in the actual mission, since there is no explorable zone.

1. Set up with a build to solo a lvl 20 blood necro and a couple running skills, enter mission.
2. Dance with the little girl, re-enact the fight, and kill the lady with the rare artifact (do the other 2 mini-games if you're going for bonus), and go talk to the princes.
3. After the cutscene, all the guards blocking the stairs will have left their posts to attack the skree. Now's your chance to simply run outside and explore the whole zone.

It turned out to be about 1.5% I believe.

Edit: I got it. :) (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/images/gw168.jpg) Assembling the map now.

=HT=Ingram

10-31-2006, 01:40 AM

Congrats guys!!!
I currently have 63% of Elona and I am in Vabbi. but I have a guidie that is done, with I think 1 more spot in Realm of Torment to find... But I did take him to one spot he missed via the Vehjin Mines... Basalt Grotto. lol should have heard him when we were playing cause he was like WHERE THIS COME FROM??? lol hahaha oh well it was fun to show him something since he surpassed me on day two when I had to work. lol I run him through all the points in kourna the day before so he gave me the tour when I hit Vabbi... lol It was still funny to do that to him though.... lol

My map is pretty complete Through Vabbi, but since Guru has removed almost every map of Elona of late I was hesitant to post it anyplace even as a work in progress...

I have detail maps of Sunspear Sanctuary, Bahook Caverns, and the Hidden City of Ahdashim.

Istan (100%),
Kourna(94%) Needs skirting here and there,
Vabbi(about 64%)
Desolation(about 3%)
Realm of Torment(0%)
Is going to be a while, cause the map is very difficult to make

If Guru will give the go ahead with the project this time I will post what I have as We did during Cantha mapping campaign. But I don't want to get banned as a few others have for posting maps ahead of the game release.

I figure once its all done I'll make a PDF with the FULL map, then each land maps blowups, and the underground maps. and possibily the mission maps, if I feel like it... thats a poor substitute for a strat guide, but its something... at that time I will be looking for a host But I am not really interested in any reward for this stuff. My reward is providing it... Exploration is what I enjoy most in GW, so this is what I am doing it for...

The areas a few of you guys are talking about is a bug in the mapping alignment. lol Anet didnt connect em up quite right, and as such you have little gaps here and there between portal. lol oh well, can't be perfect now can we. lol

SilentVex

10-31-2006, 02:10 AM

Here is my map. Still working on painting out the seems, but that can wait until after the halloween event.

100% Elona by Tyrian (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/gw/NF_map_1280.jpg) - 1280x1024 res used

Tobias Funke

10-31-2006, 02:26 AM

SilentVex

10-31-2006, 03:31 AM

That's funny, because the gate is open for me, and it leads into the nightfallen garden which isn't a part of the main map.

Hengis Stone

10-31-2006, 06:07 AM

Is it my imagination, or is GMC going to be a lot easier to get in Nightfall than it was in the previous two games.

I decided that I would make sure that I have 100% of each area before moving to the next, so I have been wall hugging each area before moving on.

Here is what I noticed yesterday. I was farming sunspear points in Yohlon yesterday and did a basic scout round to find the edges of the map. When I got enough points I decided to wall hug the zone properly, so I opened my title tracks to see how much I gained by wall hugging. After doing the entire edge I gained ZERO%. I am really suprised by this as you never clear an area, especially a big area first time withour wall hugging it.

My theory is that you dont need to get right up to the walls in this game to un-fog the edge of the map.

I have GMC in Tyria and Cantha, so I am pretty experienced at exploring and mapping and was really surprised to gain nothing by wall hugging an area that I had only made a rather basic exploration of previously.

Anyone else seen this happen or have any comments?

Cyclades of Knossos

10-31-2006, 08:03 AM

Hey Congrats!!!

I'm at about 80% but I've only done 10 missions.

gabrial heart

10-31-2006, 10:09 AM

I've gotten quite a bit by wall hugging in many areas, but yes, overall i think you don't have to as much for most of the map.

BloodyHeap

10-31-2006, 10:18 AM

All the wall hugging adds up in the end it might not be .1% but it sure will add those last few points added together to give it to ya.

Juhgis

10-31-2006, 10:19 AM

Hey everyone, I was about to make my own thread, but I'll say it here. Got 100,0% explored of elona on monday and made a map today, I'll give you the link as soon as the host person "wakes up". Stay tuned.

Vesital

10-31-2006, 10:29 AM

Congrats guys, and any info you have posted and will post will prove a great aid while I slowly wall hug my way through Elona :)

Juhgis

10-31-2006, 11:35 AM

There's the map:

http://gw-qnet.basiq.org/img/maps/GW_NightFall_Final.jpg

AvroeArrow

10-31-2006, 12:50 PM

Would someone please post a zoomed out 100% map at 1280x1024. I actually prefer the old map flipping trick for doing my mapping. Oh, and congrats to all the Elonian GMCs! Man you guys are fast, the game has only been out for 5 whole days. :D

Zegorzalek

10-31-2006, 04:36 PM

SilentVex

10-31-2006, 09:41 PM

All the mapping skills that applied to the previous 2 campaigns apply to NF. Having to wait a couple seconds in corners like you did in Factions is not necessary, as it never got me anything. One feature you might take advantage of (I think it helps even more than comparing maps) is the zoom feature on the U map. When you zoom in on some of the closer levels, you can totally tell that the shaded areas have smooth color, while the explored areas are all grainy (like old film grain). Use this to your advantage, look for smooth areas near or overlapping walls, and you know you missed a spot. Also, be sure to get the center of the zones thoroughly. My last .1% was in the middle of Barbarous Shore and couldn't see any shading from it.

Lothiron

10-31-2006, 11:13 PM

I have 1.9% of Elona left to map, and the only area I do not have access to is the Dynastic Tombs.

How the hell do I get there?

SilentVex

10-31-2006, 11:53 PM

The Remains of Sahlahja is a challenge mission. It's basically like pac man with a wurm, and you have to score 60 points to unlock 4 areas. It took me about an hour to get 60 points and explore it, but maybe I just suck. When you play, I'd recommend exploring the areas as you unlock them, because exploring is a lot less safe than scoring points in the middle area. If you die while exploring, you don't want to have spent the time for the 60.

squirrelfang

11-01-2006, 12:34 AM

I'm currently at 56% and counting....scraping everything that I see...

SnipiousMax

11-01-2006, 12:51 AM

Anyone else seen this happen or have any comments?

There are still those snag points you'll never clear if you don't hug the walls. No specific examples with nothing to compare to... but there have been a few .005 pieces I would have missed without hugging the walls.

That said, it doesn't seem quite so touchy as Cantha was (and to a lesser extent Tyria).

=HT=Ingram

11-01-2006, 01:33 AM

there is a ton of forgiveness on map exposure. Cartography 100% is actually about 98% of the over-world. none of the underground areas, and None of Realm... so . yea...

As you can see on the best map so far there are several areas that need skirting. and a few areas that need expanded in the middles... There is still more to do, but Great work so far..

SilentVex

11-01-2006, 03:10 AM

I'm not sure you realize how big a percent really is. 99.5% I could maybe believe, but 2 whole percent is the equivalent of a mid-sized zone.

Livingston

11-01-2006, 03:51 AM

We now have our first lot of 100%ers. If you wish to try and claim the 10K prize, please send me a PM telling me that you are entering. This way I don't have to stuff around with people who don't want it.

I will still verify the first person on the thread to actually get the title, and post their name here, then I will announce whom the first person was who wished to stake claim to the prize. This may or may not be the same person. We shall see. All contenders have 3 days from the time quoted on this post to PM me with their claim to the 10K prize. And congratulations to you all, you do us proud. :D

Livingston

Xenrath

11-01-2006, 05:14 AM

Livingston

11-01-2006, 05:53 AM

Can someone post a zoomed out 1280x1024 map please, to try out the difference layer technique (see if that works this time round)

Also, please can you update the original post in the thread to have links to the maps.

Yeah, yeah, I'm working on it. Time doesn't grow on trees you know... oO!

And from the looks of it the difference layer will probably be the best method for Elona.

Livingston

Kayla Slays

11-01-2006, 04:47 PM

Ok so I started the mapping process with my ele. Started Island is done as far as I can see. Did all the usual wall creeps and not found any funny map glitches yet.

My total for the starter bit is 22%, can anyone collaborate on what they found thusfar?

Grrr. This is exactly the thread I was looking for, but my Tyrian Character has 21.5% of noob/starter island. (She has 99.6% of Cantha :( , 97.7% Tyria). So is your ele a new char- with all of the tutorial area exposed? I have not done the consulate mission with this character yet because it takes you off the island - I was looking for a true starter Island mapping benchmark, so that might be .4% (ish) I can hope!;)

garethporlest18

11-01-2006, 06:34 PM

Well after using that 100% map I got myself up to 96.5%. I have no idea where 3% is, cause I know of about .5% I can get. But other than that, I'm stumped really.

SilentVex

11-01-2006, 07:55 PM

I keep meaning to get my zoomed out map posted. I'll get it up as soon as I'm home. If you still can't get it gareth, post your zoomed out map at 1280 and I or someone else will try to help.

Cyclades of Knossos

11-01-2006, 08:19 PM

Well I'm now on 97.8%

I'm currently struggling with that kill the insect game with the ghost. Sheesh. I can't even get one area unlocked. lol!

I am concerned that there isn't 2.2% left to expose here though.

SilentVex

11-02-2006, 02:17 AM

My zoomed out map is here (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/gw/NF_full_zoom.jpg).

Cyclades, there's right around 2% there. Use Junundu tunnel and just before it ends, use Junundu Bite. You'll get an instant kill and 500 health. Then just keep running around in circles in the middle and you'll be fine.

Cyclades of Knossos

11-02-2006, 06:29 AM

Thanks silent! I'll give that a try and just keep practicing.

Zophar

11-02-2006, 06:46 AM

Dougal Kronik

11-02-2006, 11:09 AM

The "difference" method works on Elona. I've done a few maps for members of my guild that needed Istan completed before moving to the mainland.

The Desolation areas may need a bit of TLC when analyzing, because they show up in a bluish color that makes it a bit tricky to pick out fine details.

SilentVex

11-02-2006, 11:18 AM

I still think one of the best ways to find pieces you've missed is to zoom in on the U map. Uncovered areas are smooth and blury, while covered areas are grainy. Just look along the walls of each zone for a blury section that comes closer than it should, or in the middle of a zone where things look foggy/faded.

And Dougal, if the color on the desolation is bad for difference comparing, hit ctrl+U in photoshop and change the hue of the desolation to something that will come out better (just be sure to write down the hue shift settings, and do the exact same to the other map being compared).

Guinevere Ac

11-02-2006, 02:01 PM

Here's my 1024x768 zoomed out map. (100% explored, of course)
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9186/gw043cz4.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw043cz4.jpg)

I'll see if I can manage to get a PC that can handle 1280x1024, but I can't promise anything

nice. can u please take a clean screen of your zoomed out map? might be missing something in cities and icons doesnt help :)

shitf screen would be usefull :) ty

99.4% here btw. any idea about how an old character can explore the very starter area? dont seem to be able to clean those bits.. should be a 0.2% there it' a nice boost if possible

Livingston

11-03-2006, 02:57 AM

QoH

11-03-2006, 03:22 AM

btw. any idea about how an old character can explore the very starter area? dont seem to be able to clean those bits.. should be a 0.2% there it' a nice boost if possible

It was possible, luckily i started mapping there on the first day and could go through those closed gates. Unfortuantely one of the updates killed this glitch.

edit: yes, it's exactly 0.2% .

Mentor73

11-03-2006, 03:52 AM

Ok, grats to all who made it 100 %. Im still arround 25. Have one question, how can u fully explore Gandara, The Moon Fortress after mission. Gates are closed and still miss small fort next to Gantara.

Ty for your help.

YunSooJin

11-03-2006, 04:58 AM

Can someone please provide a full 100% bitmap map (not zoomed out) pieced together without cloud cover? =P.

Would be much appreciated. Thanks.

=HT=Ingram

11-03-2006, 05:05 AM

BTW guys After I already had the map compiled and was doing the Map ID numbers for the Xfire plugin and I found this. lol
I noticed we all forgot to add it. lol

Oh well...

I'll add it back in later...

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9207/nfarenalp3.jpg (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35104&d=1162551846)

Guinevere Ac

11-03-2006, 05:36 AM

how could i miss the arena... :/

Zophar

11-03-2006, 09:44 AM

nice. can u please take a clean screen of your zoomed out map? might be missing something in cities and icons doesnt help :)

shitf screen would be usefull :) ty

99.4% here btw. any idea about how an old character can explore the very starter area? dont seem to be able to clean those bits.. should be a 0.2% there it' a nice boost if possible

Here's the "clean" map for you:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8225/gw052ns9.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw052ns9.jpg)

And by the way: I played Nightfall only with my Tyrian Monk so far, so it's definately possible to get 100% in Elona on foreign characters, even if there are Elonian-only areas (which I don't think there are). The screenshot of my char is a few pages back, you can confirm that my Monk is Tyrian there.

That "starter area" you refer to: Is it the very first mission outpost? You can access that by talking to the NPC in the training area, south of Kamadan.

My experience is, that the Elonian GMC is much easier to get than the Tyrian and Canthan ones. On my first play-through (without revisiting area's) I got to 99,9% in Elona. In Cantha I had 93,3% at that time and 95% in Tyria. It seems like it's a lot easier to uncover everything in Elona, without having to run into EVERY possible edge of the map. Still, this doesn't mean you can just run by and expect to get everything. (Maybe it's also just Cartographing experience, since this is my 6th GMC title: 3 in Tyria, 2 in Cantha and 1 in Elona now)

garethporlest18

11-03-2006, 10:03 AM

Well I got up to 97% just exploring the rims of a couple places. Still not sure where 3% is, but i guess I have to re-explore everything.

SnipiousMax

11-03-2006, 10:26 AM

^Compare your map to the clean map above you. Use the tactics outlined in Livingstons other GMC thread. It'll save you having to edge the whole map again.

dj deviate

11-03-2006, 10:33 AM

anyone know if you can do the compare layers differnce map on anything other than photoshop? i dont have it on my computer :(

TomD22

11-03-2006, 01:22 PM

I guess you could try the gimp, sorta free alternative to photoshop (i think...maybe)

http://www.gimp.org/

YunSooJin

11-03-2006, 03:29 PM

I'm at 98.3. The low res maps provided so far don't help with difference mapping at all whatsoever, unless I'm doing something wrong. Could anyone piece together a high quality map and post it? :x

SilentVex

11-03-2006, 04:05 PM

Uuh, check the 1st post maybe?

AlienFromBeyond

11-03-2006, 04:23 PM

Wait, how do you get to the Sunspear Arena?

=HT=Ingram

11-03-2006, 06:05 PM

there is a arena guard right outside the consulate. He will let you through the closed door into the arena. I was in there today and only a few dozen people were there so Obviously people are missing it. lol

SilentVex

11-03-2006, 07:31 PM

It's not that we missed the arena, it's that it wasn't there. Look at the screenshot (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/images/gw168.jpg) I posted when I had first gotten my title. No arena guard.

nkari

11-03-2006, 11:23 PM

I believe the arena was added with the last update. I specifically tried to find the entrance to it earlier this week because the collectors edition map shows it there. The guard was not there.

Anyway, just got 100% explored. Thanks to the maps provided here! Yay for Kind of a Big Deal!

Livingston

11-04-2006, 02:04 AM

Announcement:

Only 1 hour and 25 minutes left to claim the 10K prize. So far we only have one entry and they were Not the first person on this thread to get the title.

^Compare your map to the clean map above you. Use the tactics outlined in Livingstons other GMC thread. It'll save you having to edge the whole map again.

Umm what's wrong with the tactics that I've outlined in this thread?

Livingston

Nickhimself

11-04-2006, 05:03 AM

Please help me!!

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k315/hieter976/omfg.jpg

How do I map around that? I've seen a 100% map and the entire area around the central zone is cleared. How do I do that?

Thanks in advance!

garethporlest18

11-04-2006, 05:17 AM

Talk to the person outside the gates to it, he should let you in, the portal to it is right outside the Orchard place. Or do the mission over and when the Skree's come to attack, take a sprint skills and run up the stairs where the guards were blocking and do it that way.

Zophar

11-04-2006, 07:24 AM

I had some spare time, so here's a full U-map of Elona. I hope it's useful to those who requested it. Again, this is of course my 100% map on my Tyrian Monk. (see several previous posts for zoomed-out maps.

(The file was too big to upload it where I usually do it and this is my first attempt at attatching a file here, so forgive me if I messed it up)

SilentVex

11-04-2006, 10:12 AM

I've tried going in through the portal, but it's like i'm walking into FoW when I go in there... That means you've gone far enough in the main quest that it's turned nightfallen. As gareth said, you'll have to enter the actual mission again, and when the skrees attack, run up the stairs that the guards were previously blocking.

Nickhimself

11-04-2006, 10:30 AM

garethporlest18

11-04-2006, 10:35 AM

I've tried going in through the portal, but it's like i'm walking into FoW when I go in there...

Did you beat that mission yet? Jennur's Horde?

Lyssas

11-04-2006, 11:42 AM

Hullo. Basicly I've got 0.7% left of the map (which is quite a bit in Elona :/ )
Does anyone know of any places which people tend to miss or forget about?
I've hugged the wall everywhere I've been so missing a whole 0.7 is unlikely. So a list over general missing parts would be apreciated. Thanks in beforehand.

Thailii Monkey

11-04-2006, 11:50 AM

Im upto 99.9% cant find anything left,
except a little bit in the fortress of jahai which i have tried but failed to get, is there a quest to go there or somthing?

also the tutorial area, :(

The portals around sunspear sanctuary got me about 0.3 also a few bits between areas in kourna

Rera

11-04-2006, 02:38 PM

There are enough 100% maps here, so I won't post mine, but a few things I've noted from reading posts in this thread from people having problems:

- The Remains challenge mission doesn't require you to get 60 points to explore the entire area. Each time you enter the mission, the doors open in random order. It may be easier to just open one or two doors, die, and come back, since once you open one area you can concentrate on just mapping, instead of killing things to get points to open more areas.

- Note that you don't actually need most of Remains to get 100%. I had 99.x% before going into the challenge mission, and just entering the mission got me the last 0.x% I needed. I also didn't have the starting area on the newbie island, because my character is Canthan.

- Remember to EXPLORE TOWNS. A lot of towns in Elona are quite large and convoluted, and add up to a lot of %.

Agrim Shamash

11-04-2006, 07:02 PM

- Note that you don't actually need most of Remains to get 100%. I had 99.x%

For me that isn't too good a news :P I have 99.2 and explored the whole of the challenge mission.

Now i wonder, do you need to have finished the game for a full map, or is it sufficient to have reached the "Vortex"?
for that is the only thing that i can think of right now that there is something left "beyond" in the Torment.

Sir Mad

11-04-2006, 07:04 PM

No: high-end areas (the realm of torment) don't count.

Cyclades of Knossos

11-04-2006, 07:52 PM

Caspar

11-04-2006, 07:59 PM

At 98.7% and I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out where the 1.3% went... My guess is it is all over the place... which is not good...

Agrim Shamash

11-04-2006, 08:02 PM

No: high-end areas (the realm of torment) don't count.

Thanks. I actually used your map to do the difference method. The result with my map http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1306/nffullyp4.th.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nffullyp4.jpg) comes out rather "black" .. so am i not doing this right i assume.

Right now, i am giving up and calling it a night after two hours of doing the Tab key flipped comparison without finding any percentile. (i found some discrepancies but they haven't added up or revealed anything.)

Xenrath

11-04-2006, 10:28 PM

Me and my new pet Hyena, celebrating the triple whammy!

It actually helped get my KOABD title (as I had 2 x Protector too) Do a little dance... :)

http://www.fataliscombine.com/xenrath/XenTripleCartographer.jpg

I actually got the Elonian one without the aid of any maps, was quite an enjoyable experience overall in terms of seeing the landscape and things out in the middle of nowhere. I enjoyed it more than Cantha for sure :)

Note, this is using my Tyrian warrior 100% there, if there's any demand for it I can stitch a map together sometime.

I got up to 98.4% just exploring and mapping all of Elona. Note: the remainder of the 1.6% came from the Remains of Sahlahja challenge mission. I do believe there may be around 1.8% in that whole challenge area, maybe even a bit more as I got grandmaster in there and still had some bits left to uncover in the same area. I did not step foot in the arena mentioned earlier in the thread.

Bartuc Galadwor

11-04-2006, 11:04 PM

I just started mapping and noticed that it appears Livingston's 100% map in the first post doesn't have a Sunspear Arena mapped yet.
You can access it from Kamadan, look for the NPC near the Consulate and he will port you over. It only gives 0.1% but if your stuck at 99.9 it could be useful. =D
I post back if I notice anything else.
Edit: Nevermind lol, Ingram beat me to it.

SilentVex

11-04-2006, 11:20 PM

This is the method I used to map all of elona. I hit U, then I zoomed in. It's really very easy to tell when the unexplored area comes too close to the edge of a zone. Here's a marked up screenie (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/gw/uzoom.jpg) of my zoomed in U map. Notice the nice consistent padding between the zone wall, and the edge of exploration. If the padding isn't there, you know you missed a spot.

Edit: And I know the sunspear arena wasn't mapped, because it didn't exist back then. I need to update it, but I'm too lazy.

Thailii Monkey

11-04-2006, 11:56 PM

SoadLink

11-05-2006, 02:50 AM

Sorry if this was covered, I havent read all 6 pages of this thread. Anyone know how to get a Tyrian character into the first areas of NF (Island of Shehkah)?

Here is a pic. I noticed someone else in here who posted their 100% map had this area, and they were a Tyrian. I just cant find a way to get in there:

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7040/islandpa5.jpg

Currently at 98.9% :cool: This should get me about .2 if I could get around to these areas. And there are still some other chunks I am going to explore right now.

=HT=Ingram

11-05-2006, 03:04 AM

Don't forget to FULLY explore ALL the Wurm Paths... This is often overlooked ;) But 100% is possible without it... But sometimes it makes up a little if you can't clear something else... Like the arena fighting area for instance which over lev 10s can't go into...

Poisonous Outcrops and Dynastics Tombs are often overlooked on the wurm paths...

NesQik

11-05-2006, 03:09 AM

It was fun to get this title, easy and fast ^^

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9453/tytu322ykp7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sir Mad

11-05-2006, 07:39 AM

Thanks. I actually used your map to do the difference method. The result with my map http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1306/nffullyp4.th.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nffullyp4.jpg) comes out rather "black" .. so am i not doing this right i assume.

Right now, i am giving up and calling it a night after two hours of doing the Tab key flipped comparison without finding any percentile. (i found some discrepancies but they haven't added up or revealed anything.)

Yeah indeed our maps are quite simillar. I noticed one difference around the Basalt Grotto but I'm not sure at all - that's maybe a cloud. You should check that. Otherwise compare the Dynastic Tombs to a 100% U map too: you may have missed something there (southern part) but it's hard to make sure with a zommed out map + JPG compression.

SilentVex

11-05-2006, 09:16 AM

SoadLink: 99.2% map marked (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/gw/922_marked.jpg)

I need 13k more for my last piece of end game armor...

I also found a couple little spots that you had and I didn't, so I'll get those and include them when I update mine.

Agrim Shamash

11-05-2006, 10:05 AM

but it's hard to make sure with a zommed out map + JPG compression.

I updated (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nffullyp4.jpg) the map to a better quality JPG and also edged around the Grotto before doing this update. Can't upload a 3.5meg BMP to Imageshack :)
thanks for checking this for me, Sir Mad. Again any further help is apprechiated, still stuck at 99.2%

dj deviate

11-05-2006, 10:38 AM

could we get a zoomed out bitmap file without the town icons for the zoomed out method
cheers

dj deviate

11-05-2006, 11:26 AM

i tried doing that difference map and either i cant find anything or im doing it wrong
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5720/djdifferncemapop2.th.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=djdifferncemapop2.jpg)

so could some else have a go plz im at 99.5%

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7112/djelonayd5.th.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=djelonayd5.jpg)

cheers

SilentVex

11-05-2006, 12:39 PM

99.6% marked up (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/gw/996_marked.jpg)

SoadLink

11-05-2006, 02:13 PM

Thanks to everyone here, and especially to SilentVex! I got it!

http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/9053/fsxw3.jpg

:cool: Good luck to all those going for it!

Agrim Shamash

11-05-2006, 04:07 PM

In the North Northwest corner of "The Sulfurous Wastes" is a Ghost by the name of "Infantryman Hareh" (just east of the N boss over a chasm).. any idea how i can get there? He even has a ! over his head that i could see.

Further, as people manage to get an U-map that encompasses the whole elonian continent:
How do you stich the parts together, is there a freeware you use, i'd like to provide my own U-Map for my search for the last missing .8%

Verkinix

11-05-2006, 04:28 PM

Just finished Elonian GME 100%. Elona was, by far, easier then Cantha to map in full. I'm still working on tyria, but its taken a back seat to the fun of NF :)

Anyway, wish I had started mapping a few days earlier. I could have gotten the 10k :)

Zophar

11-05-2006, 06:06 PM

Of course there is the Island of Shehkah (first area new NF characters get to) but i don't think a Tyrian can access that, and I'm a Tyrian. If you can, let me know, that will get me about .2%

Let me quote myself as an answer:

That "starter area" you refer to: Is it the very first mission outpost? You can access that by talking to the NPC in the training area, south of Kamadan.

EDIT: Nevermind... I'm either blind or didn't read the latest posts... Still my point of having to quote an answer already given before stands.

Caspar

11-05-2006, 06:13 PM

Let me quote myself as an answer:

EDIT: Nevermind... I'm either blind or didn't read the latest posts... Still my point of having to quote an answer already given before stands.

On the UMap you provided, you had the spawn area where a newly created NF character spawns. How did you map that area? I did read someone posted about a bug being fixed and you can no longer get there (Not the first mission area but the area before the mission)? Is this confirmed? I need like 0.3% more and that little area there should do it for me if I can get there :(

SilentVex

11-05-2006, 08:49 PM

Congrats to our latest batch of 100% EGMC's. Special thanks to SoadLink for my endgame helmet. :)

About the starting area (not the first mission town, but the starter area before that, which is not accessible), I never mapped it and still got the title alright. If you have .3% left, keep looking, because it's there somewhere.

Caspar

11-06-2006, 02:26 AM

Zophar

11-06-2006, 07:37 AM

On the UMap you provided, you had the spawn area where a newly created NF character spawns. How did you map that area? I did read someone posted about a bug being fixed and you can no longer get there (Not the first mission area but the area before the mission)? Is this confirmed? I need like 0.3% more and that little area there should do it for me if I can get there :(

Ah, now I understand what was meant. There was indeed a bug there. The first time I talked to the NPC (the one that now sends you to the first mission outpost) I was just moved to that area and the outpost was not yet available. I guess this bug was fixed indeed and I don't know how to get there now. (actually, I haven't tried getting there recently because I'm too lazy :S)

sorcees

11-06-2006, 09:18 AM

I hugged walls on starter island in tutorial of NF and it gives you 0,5%.

Sir Mad

11-06-2006, 10:08 AM

Agrim, here (http://athelias.biz/guildwars/comp1.JPG) is your analyzed map. There are maybe more spots missing on the newb island: there are too many clouds to make sure with this map.

SilentVex

11-06-2006, 11:52 AM

snickers: This (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/gw/sebera.jpg) should easily be .6%.

Agrim Shamash

11-06-2006, 01:42 PM

Agrim, here (http://athelias.biz/guildwars/comp1.JPG) is your analyzed map. There are maybe more spots missing on the newb island: there are too many clouds to make sure with this map.

Two of the spots made me go "DOH i missed THAT?" mea culpa. At some spots, especially those at the southeast corner of the map, i didn't notice a difference on my U map, so i edged there "blind" but i did go to all the given spots. And i had luck on the "packman challenge" that the first door that opened up was the needed section :D .
I moved along all the indicated spots, and they got me .3%, so this (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zoomedoutre3.jpg) is now my 99.5% map, i waited a little for the clouds to disperse (i am learning) thanks again for your effort.

Hatamoto

11-06-2006, 01:57 PM

would someone mind explaining how to compile a u-map, it would be greatly appreciated. I am at work now so i cant look at the forums too in depth. Pm or post here would be great, thx :)

sNiCkeRZ

11-06-2006, 02:30 PM

@SilentVex: right after uncovering the last tiny piece of map you marked, I finally got the title. Thanks again!

I also want to thank Livingston for those guides. Without them i wouldn't even have those 99,4% i was stuck at.

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/698/egmccu3.jpg

Thailii Monkey

11-06-2006, 02:57 PM

Two of the spots made me go "DOH i missed THAT?" mea culpa. At some spots, especially those at the southeast corner of the map, i didn't notice a difference on my U map, so i edged there "blind" but i did go to all the given spots. And i had luck on the "packman challenge" that the first door that opened up was the needed section :D .
I moved along all the indicated spots, and they got me .3%, so this (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zoomedoutre3.jpg) is now my 99.5% map, i waited a little for the clouds to disperse (i am learning) thanks again for your effort.

Looks to me like your missing the End game area in Chantry.

Caspar

11-06-2006, 03:37 PM

@Agrim Shamash and those who are interested in learning how to stich a UMap together, here's the method I used when making mine. There may be faster/better/meh methods out there but my method works just fine. It will take you an hour or two to do the complete map.

What you need:
1. A fast system with a lot of memory. The images take a lot of memory because of their large resolution
2. Photoshop (you may use another image processor but this is what I used)

What to do:
1. Set your desktop resolution to 1024*768 or 1280*1024 (1280 will be a lot faster because it covers more area per print screen)
2. Start Guild Wars in window mode (alt+enter to switch between full and window). Stretch the lower right corner of the Guild Wars window to fill your desktop to the taskbar/bottom right corner of your desktop then stretch the UMap to fill the Guild Wars window
3. Launch Photoshop and create a new image with a resolution of 5500*4150 (Elona, it will be different for Tyria and Canta)
4. Alt+tab to your Guild Wars window and take a screenshot by pressing alt+prtscr (print screen) *Tip: start from a corner, my preference: bottom left*. The image will be copied to your clipboard but Guild Wars will also make a copy in its screens folder so make sure you delete them from time to time because they take up a lot of room
5. Alt+tab to your Photoshop window and create a new image again. Photoshop will auto import the clipboard image and auto fill in the resolution of this new image. Paste the clipboard image onto this canvas (so now you should have 2 images/canvases in your Photoshop window).
6. Assuming you are starting from the corner you will now want to trim this image because you don't want those sides showing. For the bottom left corner, you will only need to trim the top and right edge. To trim goto Image->Convas size->make sure width and height are in pixels and fill in width and height (subtract 100 from the default values). Set the anchor to bottom left by clicking the bottom left arrow.
7. Now you should have a trimed image with the top and right edges clean. Select all and copy then close the canvas without saving. Paste the image onto the 5500*4150 canvas. Move the layer to the bottom left corner so that the UMap window edges disapear and revealing just the map itself.
8. Layer->Flatten image
9. Now repeat step 4 to 8 in a clockwise or counter-clockwise manner (CCW works better for Elona IMO). *Hint: for the triming this time, you will need to trim the left, top and right edges. Only keep the edge that's going to be covered up by the canvas edge. As for the middle sections that aren't edges of the map, trim all 4 sides.* To make the joint seamless, you will need to set the blend options to difference and move the new layer so that a completely black bar covers the joint area. Switch back to normal blend.
10. Step 8 (if you don't do step 8 for every new section, you will end up with a lot of large new layers taking up A LOT of memory)

More hints: If possible, save your progress in a lossless format until you have the whole map stiched, because if you save as jpeg the drop in quality stacks every time you resave your work so the seams may not match perfectly and the older sections will look much worse compare to the new sections.

You will need at least some image editing knowledge to the do the above. Don't follow the above steps blindly, understand the concept behind it and do what works for you. ;)

krann shin

11-06-2006, 06:06 PM

hmm... im working on this title currently but am having trouble using the layers in photoshop. windowed mode just doesnt seem to fit correctly. im currently using a widescreen monitor, if someone could post an image of their map at 1440*900 that is at or close to 100% i would greatly appreciate it! =D thanks!

ps. or if someone could help me make it so that the image doesnt fit the screen, rather it just stays at the resolution i choose that would work too =D.

SilentVex

11-06-2006, 07:05 PM

I updated my map tonight. My best guess puts it around 100.5%, give or take .05%. The url is the same, but here it is again anyway (http://www.ps-mc.com/arcane/gw/NF_map_1280.jpg).

Thailii Monkey

11-06-2006, 07:21 PM

I've got 98.9% and I'm stuck. :(

Can one of you fine gentlemen do one of those difference things in photoshop for me? Please :)

1600x1200 map without icons (http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw102sf4.jpg)

*edit: Fixed link

Try these

Diff (http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/125/100vdergecopygx4.jpg)
Diff marked (http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/8109/markeddragcopyhq4.jpg)

Leighwyn

11-06-2006, 10:19 PM

Hellooooo

So, I haven't had the chance to play much nightfall, and there is already a very thorough map out there and linked in this thread. As such, I decided my goal would be to help out in getting the absolutely most complete resource out there for everyone's use :)

I compared the areas I've already mapped to those in the U-map linked in the thread as best I could (differing resolutions require artifact-inducing scaling), and here's what I found! I'm not sure who belongs to this map, who has the ability to edit and reupload it etc, but whoever you are, here you gooo

I am 100% sure of the spots on the right and left, the one in the middle was very mildly different and could have been from scaling but I didn't think so.

I didn't bother to include what my revealed version of those spots look like, but if necessary I can.

Happy mapping!

edit: I lied, edited the image to show what my spots look like. Mine are the glowing insets.

Agatsu

11-06-2006, 10:48 PM

Im curious if anyone is keeping track of what % of the final 100% each area actually represents.

I am at 70.1% without scraping inside any towns yet, and without entering the "final Areas" Jokos Domain , Sulferous Wastes etc., so Im wondering what % of the final 100% those areas represent.

I have 100% of Tyria and Cantha, so far Elona *seems* to be giving up the %s easier than the two previous chapters

SilentVex

11-07-2006, 12:13 AM

@ garethporlest18 & hatamoto: I'll look at those...tomorrow or the next day if someone hasn't already. I have a busy couple days here, so no promises.

@ Leighwyn: Thanks for the heads up. I'll get those and get it updated...tomorrow or the next day. :)

Cyclades of Knossos

11-07-2006, 12:27 AM

How much does the hidden area at the Chantry yield? (only accessable after game completion right?)

I've been stuck at 99.8% for a while and that's the only bit I can't get to yet and the only bit I'm assuming I need.

If it only gives 0.1 or something, God knows where the final bit is, lol!

Artkin

11-07-2006, 03:09 AM

Yeah...1 less thing to do now

Livingston

11-07-2006, 03:10 AM

I am currently working on documenting how much each area is worth to map as I go, but since I haven't had much time to play, it's going rather slowly.

And congrats to those who have gotten the title. :D

@ Leighwyn: Thanks for the heads up. I'll get those and get it updated...tomorrow or the next day. :)

Send me a PM when you do and I'll update the map on the OP. Keep up the good work guys. ^_^

Livingston

Sir Mad

11-07-2006, 08:31 AM

Agrim: you forgot to explore the area around the statue of Kormir in Chantry of Secrets. There is still a spot missiong in the newb island (north-east corner of the Cliffs of Dohjok).

Jahjah, if you still have 0.5% to explore there is probably more than what I found (I did that quickly) but here are a few places you missed: http://athelias.biz/guildwars/jahjah.JPG

A few tips to all those who have only 0.x% left and can't find any more spots to explore: I was quite lucky with Elona and it didn't happen to me this time, but I remember how it was for Cantha and Tyria: you compare your map to 100% maps and it's as if your own map was more complete than the 100% map. At this point zoomed out maps are probably useless (if you can't find any difference), so you have to use your insight. Make a list of the areas where you could have missed something, and compare your U-map to a 100% U-map (in Elona, places like the Dynastic Tombs, the Poisonous Outcrops, this stupid mission in the newb Island you rushed, etc.), try to cross the "tunnel" portals in both ways (when there are 2 portals and some kind of uncleared tunnel between 2 areas), hug again the walls of the towns and outposts, etc. At this point, it's also a matter of luck.

SilentVex

11-07-2006, 09:06 AM

Send me a PM when you do and I'll update the map on the OP. When I do (hopefully tonight) the url will stay the same, so you won't have to do anything.

Shakkara

11-07-2006, 10:15 AM

Thanks but my character has been bugged ever since reaching castellian, and I cannot enter the 'first city' area at all, mission wont be given and I can't even enter it with other party members! GRRR ANET FIX! (and yes i've submitted a bug report two days after release and have been stuck on 98.6% since!)

Sir Mad

11-07-2006, 11:13 AM

Narcotic Traversal FTW!

Sorry I couldn't resist :D

jahjah

11-07-2006, 11:24 AM

thank you sir mad
you guys rock thanks for the help i got my elonian grandmaster carographer now

Caspar

11-07-2006, 03:20 PM

@Hatamoto
Here's your map marked (I may have missed a few but let see what you have after you get the marked areas):
http://download.yousendit.com/B74F865448259F6C

Hatamoto

11-07-2006, 04:04 PM

thx you very much, i managed to get 99.4 without even trying. Will test these few spots.

Hatamoto

11-07-2006, 05:40 PM

@Hatamoto
Here's your map marked (I may have missed a few but let see what you have after you get the marked areas):
http://download.yousendit.com/B74F865448259F6C

well after going to the suggested spots i have 99.8, i have not beaten the game yet so havent gotten to the other side of the gate at Secrets, not sure if that will yeild me the .2 %, thx for the help

Caspar

11-07-2006, 05:58 PM

I've tried getting to those 2 spots from every adjacent map. The problem with the Moddok one is that you can't explore it in the town/mission/explore caverns. I can always uncover it there but because its considered a "mission map" it doesn't uncover it on my actual map. I know it can be uncovered because of the "u-map" on the first page. Although I think its only 1 blip. As for the part near Kamadan I have no clue how it was uncovered on the "u-map" on the first page. Again I've tried all outside maps and town maps.

You can get spot 1 by talking to the arena guard in Kamadan. As for spot 2, I don't think you can map that spot... at least I wasn't able to.

@Hatamoto please post your updated map so someone can give it another closer look. If not, just use the complete UMap from the first post of this thread to dif the missing spots. It shouldn't be too hard as the 100% map in this thread is updated frequently and is more than 100% complete.

Best of luck

SilentVex

11-07-2006, 10:34 PM

IIIPowerIII

11-07-2006, 11:07 PM

LoKi Foxfire

11-07-2006, 11:13 PM

Could someone check my attached zoomed out map? I'm at 99.1% and I'm trying to figure what little edges I keep missing! :O

FYI, even though it looks like you unfogged some things on the map, I've found that you can get 0.1% for some places if you get close enough to them. For example, the northwest wall of Kamadan gave me 0.1% but it didn't unfog anything.

-.-

11-08-2006, 12:37 AM

I'm at 99.5%, still missing a size able portion in the Mission where you kill the Drought, but I'm thinking it won't provide me enough to get 100%.

Caspar

11-08-2006, 02:35 AM

Ok i'm now at 97,2%. Wont ask help right now, since I dont have my 98%, but I can find my left spot easy.

Just need some advice, I need to map the entire Wurm Challenge mission, any tips on it? I can only open the first gate...

The gates open at random... so... most of the time I am able to open them all but it's not required to map the area. The trick is to get close to a Greater Infection and lower its HP enough so that you can kill it when the spirit comes running. While you wait, you can Wurm Seige the Infects close by. This method should get at least 2 gates open by the time you cleared all the Greater Infections at the starting area. If the gates aren't the ones that you need, just resign and repeat if you are unable to open the remaining gates.

reniori

11-08-2006, 03:11 AM

Caspar

11-08-2006, 03:46 AM

reniori

11-08-2006, 06:18 AM

Thank you for the zoomed out map, I was able to difference my way from 98.6% to 100%.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a183/reniori/gw098.jpg

Phaern Majes

11-08-2006, 08:34 AM

You can get spot 1 by talking to the arena guard in Kamadan. As for spot 2, I don't think you can map that spot... at least I wasn't able to.

@Hatamoto please post your updated map so someone can give it another closer look. If not, just use the complete UMap from the first post of this thread to dif the missing spots. It shouldn't be too hard as the 100% map in this thread is updated frequently and is more than 100% complete.

Best of luck

Thanks... I always seem to forget about the arenas. .5% left to find :S

BlueSS

11-08-2006, 11:30 AM

ok was at 99.9% went to help a guildie with the final mission, watched the cutscene after the endgame area. then appeared in kamandan with 100% :S:eek:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/448/100fm0.png

I had problems with the last 0,1% too, but I finally got it! :D

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6568/cartographnr5.jpg

Sir Mad

11-08-2006, 11:43 AM

ok was at 99.9% went to help a guildie with the final mission, watched the cutscene after the endgame area. then appeared in kamandan with 100% :S

Yes I noticed that as well: you char is somewhere when you watch cinematics, and sometimes in places where you can't go again. Many people asked how to unclear (at least partially) the little island where elonian characters start: that's actually where you are when a tyrian or canthan char watches the first cinematics of Elona when he arrives (I tested that with a fresh char). Now I wonder if you could move your char with the keyboard during the cinematics to explore more - I guess you can't but I'll try with the next char I take to Elona.

Oh and grats on the title.

SnipiousMax

11-08-2006, 12:17 PM

^ I don't remember a cinmantic when my Tyrian character came over.... I just sorta appeared.

madamesabina

11-08-2006, 12:34 PM

96% flat of elona.. why do i have the feeling that i didn't wallhug enough like i should have.. :confused:

Sir Mad

11-08-2006, 12:37 PM

^
^
Actually it's the same cinematic for elonian chars and tyrian/canthan chars I belive, you know: "Elona, land of the golden sun...", etc.

kyrasantae

11-08-2006, 12:55 PM

Does anyone know how to map the Fortress of Jahai? I've tried it from the 2 explorable areas, but no luck because it's gated off. Is there a quest or whatever else that will allow you to map that are? thanks in advance
Do the Pogahn Passage mission.

That's Gandara, not Jahai. And no, you can't actually get into it. It's more of a point of interest rather than an explorable location.

TomD22

11-08-2006, 01:01 PM

I'm getting close-ish now (97.x%) but i'm also a little stuck on the Salajah challenge mission (with the infestations and maddened spirits).

I've been able to explore 2 out of the 4 parts of it, but the other 2 never seem to open for me.

So, to get all the doors open, do you have to reach a certain number of points? If so, how many?

Or, do the doors open randomly? It doesn't seem like they do, 'cos i must have tried this 15 times now without getting the ones i need open, but i guess that could be bad luck.

Oh, and if it is points...anyone got a good way to get them? I can usually kill a couple of the maddened spirits but eventually i get to the point where i just don't have enough health to kill a greater infestation before the spirit kills me, and all i can do is run. And obviously 2 at once is suicide. So. Meh. It's kinda pissing me off now.

Thx for any advice :)

SnipiousMax

11-08-2006, 01:16 PM

^
^
^
Any chance you can go back and do the "To Elonia" Quest in cantha if you've already done it for tyria?

Hatamoto

11-08-2006, 01:24 PM

hmm so i have 99.9 % now, and havent beaten the game, hopefully i have blues luck :), Also is it possible to get on the other side of the gate at C-O-Secrets or is that end game?

reniori

11-08-2006, 01:52 PM

96% flat of elona.. why do i have the feeling that i didn't wallhug enough like i should have.. :confused:

Attached is a quick comparison, some areas worth noting. This comparison probably won't get you to 100%. The SE Krounan was impossible to compare, due to the coulds, and so is the NW region of Desolation. I've differenced myself to 100% on 1900x1200, that was so much easier.

A quick note to OP so he can stick this to the first thread:
Take the screenshot immediately after you get into Map Travel, the clouds has a consistent pattern and the differences in clouds can be overcome by using that method.

X dragon x

11-08-2006, 02:25 PM

hi all, can someone help me to get my last 0.2% please ^^
here is my 1280x1024 map

EDIT : i ve get the missed point at the jahai fortress => special thx to Sir Mad
the others one arent missed point
can any other check my map ? i am at 99.9%....

Sir Mad

11-08-2006, 02:38 PM

^
^
^
Any chance you can go back and do the "To Elonia" Quest in cantha if you've already done it for tyria? No you can't. But if you don't have this area cleared, maybe joining someone doing the quest will take you there again - I haven't tried.

The area I'm refering to is this one (map of my tyrian ranger):

http://athelias.biz/guildwars/gw261.JPG

This is where you are during the cinematic. Then your char is sent to the docks.

EDIT - X Dragon X: a few spots you missed: http://athelias.biz/guildwars/comp3.JPG

Disclaimer: that's the difference with my own 100% map - I presume that's places you missed, however *I* could have missed them instead. The newb island was too cloudy for a proper analyze too.

garethporlest18

11-08-2006, 03:16 PM

Could someone check my maps on page 8 please. No one has yet and maybe I did it wrong I don't know, but I'm at 99.4% and seriously cannot find anymore places or can't clear the places I did find because I don't know how to get to them. I know of 3 places that need clearing which will probably land me at 99.5%. So I still need help if anyone can take a look and mark some spots for me I'd really appreciate it, thanks. :)

-.-

11-08-2006, 04:43 PM

Bandwidth exceeded...for the zoomed out map.

Scutilla

11-08-2006, 04:44 PM

Livingston, I get a Bandwidth Exceeded message when I try to download your maps. Is there another location (i.e. if anyone else had it and put it up somewhere) where we could get it?

EDIT: Not that it matters to me any more- grabbed a map off GWO and found the 0.3% I was missing, netting me both EGMC and KoaBD ^_^

Wilde One

11-08-2006, 05:06 PM

Got mine and that gets me Kind of a big deal.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/Wilde1701/GW%20Map/Eloniancartographer.jpg

A 100% zoomed out map for thoes who need it.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/Wilde1701/GW%20Map/NF100.jpg

TomD22

11-08-2006, 05:47 PM

98.4%.

I found 0.2% by tabbing and comparing maps myself but try as i might and wander around as i have i can't see any more.

If anyone could be so kind as to cast a second pair of eyes over this and see if anything jumps out at them....

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5946/984po9.png

Thanks :)

edit: o....k. imageshack has randomly decided to resize it from 1280x1024 to 600x480. Don't ask me why. I'll edit this when i find somewhere better to host it...

full sized pic: http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/5872/2000571362013530159_rs.jpg

SilentVex

11-08-2006, 05:53 PM

Livingston, I get a Bandwidth Exceeded message when I try to download your maps. Is there another location (i.e. if anyone else had it and put it up somewhere) where we could get it? That's actually my problem, and not Livingston's. I have it up temporarily here (http://od3.ifastnet.com/NF_map_1280.jpg), and I'm working as fast as I can to find a new host (which is hard, because I'm already very busy). If anyone has about 20+ gigs of unused bandwidth/month and wants to host it, let me know.

Tentigers

11-08-2006, 06:03 PM

First off, thanks for this forum, it has helped me alot...especially when comparing maps, but now im at a stop gap. Im lost and have no clue where to look. Can someone take a look at my map and maybe tell me what I missed? currently Im at 99.2%

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2568/99uw0.th.jpg (http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=99uw0.jpg)

Wilde One

11-08-2006, 06:17 PM

Tom try these areas.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/Wilde1701/GW%20Map/gw050.jpg

TomD22

11-08-2006, 06:23 PM

Tom try these areas.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/Wilde1701/GW%20Map/gw050.jpg

Will do, thanks.

dj deviate

11-08-2006, 06:30 PM

ziareb

11-08-2006, 06:42 PM

my first grandmaster title.:D had to go over everything twice as i was missing .8%.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/sparahawk/th_eloniangrandmaster.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/sparahawk/?action=view&current=eloniangrandmaster.jpg)

stilll working on my other map's tyrian 95.5% cantha 91 .2 %.
thank's all to the contribution of this forum.

zia

Wilde One

11-08-2006, 06:44 PM

i dunno if mine got missed out or if nobody could find anything so i thought i'd do a re post of my u-map just incase it was the first of the two

my u-map (http://www.doubleb.co.uk/dv8 mini u map.jpg)

cheers

U-maps take a lot longer to find the areas. A zoomed out map you can find some in 10-15 mins usuially. Just be patient. Livingston and Co. are top notch and will see you right.

Hatamoto

11-08-2006, 06:50 PM

special thanks to Caspar for helping me out :)

http://home.comcast.net/~bryanhudson/213423.jpg

Leighwyn

11-08-2006, 07:13 PM

Leighwyn: I got them all but the top left one. I scraped that wall at least 10 times in both directions and can't get it. If someone gets that...tell me where you stood. I'll update when I'm done pvping tonight.

Hahahha you have no idea how happy that makes me :D I thought I was just going crazy for a while but I guess the spot is just really tough to hit.

I had exactly what your map shows, but then I checked the map I made with my preview character and it had that spot revealed. I then spent TWO DAYS trying to reveal it, gave up once, and then finally was successful. My memory isnt the greatest and I don't remember exactly where I stood, but I do remember remarking to myself, "gee, I didn't think the spot would be so north :mad:"

I've attached where I THINK I stood, but all I know for certain is that it is north of the little temple-y area you can see on your U-map. That's initially where I thought the spot would have to be revealed from, and I tried it to death, but turns out I was incorrect!

I also added two more spots I located which I had more revealed on, so you can maybe get to those before you update.

Scutilla

11-08-2006, 07:38 PM

One tip I've found extremely useful for scrapping together those last couple tenths of a percent:

Stretch your U map to take up the whole screen and take screenshots of all the areas on the map.
Find a good 100% map using stitched-together U maps and save it to your hard drive.
Open the 100% map and your first screenshot. Line up the view on the 100% map so that it shows EXACTLY the same area as your screenshot. (I find it helpful to alt-tab back and forth, keeping track of where zone portals are.)
Alt-tab back and forth between the two images, looking for differences. Because the two are exactly lined up with each other, the only noticeable differences will be any patches of fog that are in one but not the other, making them very easy to catch visually.
Repeat for each of your screenshots.

Took me about an hour to find and visit six locations where I was missing fog, and most of that time was spent in-game. While it may not be as fast as the Photoshop trick, it's much less prone to error.

LoKi Foxfire

11-08-2006, 07:57 PM

Could someone do a difference for me?

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/5765/gw063bl3.jpg

I can do a higher resolution that I normally use as well but the edges get cut off...

Also: How do you get that spot by Nundu Bay? I can't get it to unfog! :O

Edit: Nevermind, I got it - you have to go outside of town and go the southermost part of the rocky ledge on the beach.

-.-

11-08-2006, 08:05 PM

Currently at 99.7% and stuck. Here's the zoomed out picture of my map so far.

SilentVex

11-08-2006, 09:31 PM

Sorry it's takin' me so long guys. Between school, pvp, and then this bandwidth issue today, I've been hella busy. I'll look at some of your maps tonight.

Edit: Oh, and that bandwidth issue should be resolved. The link in the OP should work again.

Cyclades of Knossos

11-08-2006, 10:34 PM

Woo-hoo! I finally made it :D

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/1654/cyc1rn3.th.jpg (http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cyc1rn3.jpg)

Thanks guys!

I'm now Kind of a Big Deal