Solo Green Farming For >_> Sins

[Desires]

EDIT/UPDATE:Removed Video and Picture both with my ingame name in them due to people ignoring the fact I will not respond ingame. I may make a new video one day but doupt it. The build is below and and the use is simple enough. activate shadow form run in shadow form GoEP SA and kill the boss.



Just a small, very tiny request.... Could you list the main skill in your original post? or copy and past this?

1 Shadown form (E)
2 Glyph of Elemental Power
3 Sliver Armor
4 xxxxx
5 xxxxx
6 xxxxx
7 Dark escape
8 Dash

Also at some bosses you don't really need dash but I like it for shacking agros ;p

Basicly put extra atributes in water for rust or air if you use shock/gale(for gale you have to drop shadow arts to 15.)

[guildwarsnerd]

.....WOW...just WOW. Congrats, dude, your farming build will encourage a lot of other people to make sins. Cause the Warden solo-part...that's pretty crazy man.

[protein]

that is amazing for a sin...i think i might go make one right now

[Shadowfox1125]

Wow, this might lower Sunreach prices..
Very nice.

[Desires]

Wow, this might lower Sunreach prices..
Very nice.

Yah I was debating adding that part in for that reason lol but I find its still a rare drop unlike some greens.

[Heelz]

Wow! Thank you, you just saved me from deleting my sin.

[Witte Was]

Really nice! Finally some real Sin action:D I've added it in my list (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10038096)

[Nero]

holy crap man, very nice work:D :D :D



i think i'll be remaking my sin.

[moko]

simple amazing 0_o im speechless, awesome job!

[Bloodied Blade]

/salute

[Scott]

Respect!Good Job :)

[zadinos]

Just one thing. I was watching the movie but you can never se what happens when elite skill ends and you only have 50hp. Plz explain this to me.

[Valeria]

well i guess the boss dies everything recharges and he can cast again to pick his green. If it ends before the boss dies he does:D

i was thinking about a nice farm viedeo with somethng of each profession this was jus the missing assassin part. I have to try this.

[zov]

Thanks alot! Finally got my own sunreach shield.:D

[Desires]

Thank you all for such postive feedback.

To answer the earlier question the build realies on the boss dieing before you to recharge. Thats how I'm able to kill both the sin and sunreach at once.(though sometimes the sin doesn't want to drop. Though if a green drops and you die you can just run back.

[memnock deathwalker]

Very nice build and many thanks for sharing.

[Ic Zero]

is it kepkhets refuge your using?

thx for sharing, i cant believe this

EDIT: BTW do you think Kunvie can be solo using this build?

[Desires]

is it kepkhets refuge your using?

thx for sharing, i cant believe this

EDIT: BTW do you think Kunvie can be solo using this build?

Yah ahd one sitting in my storage really anything with 20% enchant and energy boost would work. I sometimes use a 30hp shield and 30hp 1 hand when running depend on where.

I've done very limited testing in jade sea due to death hands having chillbains and creepings have expunge enchantments 2 things which can own shadow form.

[pegasux]

what is that elite you are using? and this is amazing...you rock!

[Desires]

what is that elite you are using? and this is amazing...you rock!

Shadow Form

For 5...17 seconds, all hostile Spells that target you fail and all attacks against you miss. When Shadow Form ends, lose all but 5...41 Health.

at 16 it becomes 21 seconds then a 4 second boost from enchant mod so 25 seconds.

[Ainvar]

OMG 2 shields in 2 runs OMG , ty very much for ur build :D :D :D :D http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/5063/omgshields2jy2.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=omgshields2jy2.jpg)

[-Revan-]

OMG 2 shields in 2 runs OMG , ty very much for ur build :D :D :D :D http:
//img154.imageshack.us/img154/5063/omgshields2jy2.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=omgshields2jy2.jpg)
loooooooool
i haven't an assassin T_T

[Ic Zero]

i saw a few people trying to do it with E/A

[CalypsoX]

Nicely done. Great synergy between sliver armor (ultimate boss killer) and shadow form. This also works quite well when doing ugly stick farm, the mob setup is almost identical to sunreach.

[Former Ruling]

i saw a few people trying to do it with E/A

Which should work even better.

Better Sliver Armor :)

Shadow Form lasting the longest possible isn't really needed, It just needs to last longer than Sliver Armor, once the boss dies to Sliver armor you can put shadow form right back on to pick up the green if its blinking.

[matt the man]

wat is the first guy u fight?

[tuna-fish_sushi]

Wow thats smart, because the Moral boost you get from a boss recharges all your skills. So that means 50 seconds of pure shadowform GG

[capblueberry]

Enchantment Spell. For 5...10 seconds, you have 25...45% chance to block attacks and whenever you are the target of a hostile Spell or attack one nearby foe is struck for 5...29 earth damage.

soooo wat i understand from this is that a random adjacent foe takes 29 damage but on the vid the boss takes all the damage...so wats wrong here, does the damage go to whoever ur targeting or something?

also im not too familiar with Cantha area...can someone plz list some of the good areas to do this in? thanks!

[Desires]

Enchantment Spell. For 5...10 seconds, you have 25...45% chance to block attacks and whenever you are the target of a hostile Spell or attack one nearby foe is struck for 5...29 earth damage.

soooo wat i understand from this is that a random adjacent foe takes 29 damage but on the vid the boss takes all the damage...so wats wrong here, does the damage go to whoever ur targeting or something?

also im not too familiar with Cantha area...can someone plz list some of the good areas to do this in? thanks!

Its a odd skill actaully it only targets one nearby foe at a time. It also seems to have certian priorties for targets I find as it seems to about half the time target wallows before sunreach.

Also to someone else the first boss is kenrii outside of unwaking waters mission.(luxon side)

[Shadowfox1125]

OMG 2 shields in 2 runs OMG , ty very much for ur build :D :D :D :D http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/5063/omgshields2jy2.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=omgshields2jy2.jpg)
Ha, this is so gonna drop Sunreach prices.

[CalypsoX]

Which should work even better.

Better Sliver Armor :)

Shadow Form lasting the longest possible isn't really needed, It just needs to last longer than Sliver Armor, once the boss dies to Sliver armor you can put shadow form right back on to pick up the green if its blinking.
Not necessarily. In some cases, you need to do some mob manipulation in order to get a group big enough, and those extra seconds help a lot.

In any case, I wonder if we should start compiling some sort of hit list (a la the R/N thread). I've already tried this on a lot of other bosses (a lot of whom have either never been tried before or never been posted yet), and it has worked extremely well so far.

Kyril Oathwarden (avoid the earth wardens if possible since shockwave will still hit, or use dark escape to halve the damage if you can't help it)
Ssun, Blessed of Dwayna (involves aggroing some onis as well)
Ssyn, Coiled Grasp
Siska Scalewand
Rien the Martyr
Cho, Spirit Empath

And the kicker - Necro Construct! I couldn't take down the Monk construct (not enough damage), but probably doable with a E/A instead. Mesmer construct works the same way, except for some reason sliver armor never targeted it at the beginning no matter how close I got - will try again later.
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/779/necrocnx7.png

Edit - Warrior and Mesmer construct down. Died while killing memser one :P. I basically killed all the melee (the resulting explosion usually killed me too), so once I went in (with -60% dp), there was nothing closer, and sliver armor had to target it.
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/888/warriorcgc1.png
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7290/mesmercwh9.png

[Batou of Nine]

Wow, this build is really inovative! and REALLY hard to learn. Spent bout 2 hrs now trying to get it. But i got about a 25% success rate now.

kill scar eater a few times. i cannot for the life of me get sunreach. lol
argh!

Great build man, way to think outta the box!!!

[Scott]

monk construct down

http://home.arcor.de/boeserbaer/monkconstruct.JPG

[Lyohn S]

OMG 2 shields in 2 runs OMG , ty very much for ur build :D :D :D :D http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/5063/omgshields2jy2.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=omgshields2jy2.jpg)


er7 ftw

[Desires]

I have to admit i didn't think this build could do constructs so ty for proving me wrong lol. But yes to the a/e vs e/a debate as someone else said that extra time is needed on some bosses for mob manipulation.

Also I find anywhere with onis work very well as their lightning fast double attacks really add up.

Well off to try constructs ;p

[Scott]

has anyone got a drop so far (besides soul stones ^^)

could kill the warrior construct 3times in 10 seconds, because they rezzt it :D

[Rin]

wow, this build is complete ownage.

I love sliver armor.

[Scott]

:D

http://home.arcor.de/boeserbaer/monkkaolin.JPG

[luxor9]

I killed my first boss with it finally lol. cho..somethin didn't drop anything but it was fun.

[Scott]

@CalypsoX: how do you get to the necro construct alive? I die by passing the elementalist construct :/

[pegasux]

i got 2 shields today in about 25 runs so i am satisfied =). now what to do with the other shield =)
btw e/a's do it just fine =)

[Aeon_Enceladus]

Pure genius, mate :) Great job.

Is the run to the Warrior's Construct hard? Does seem a little hard with so much afflicted and just Dash and Dark Escape :/ Atm, for weapons, I'm using a Totem Axe and Earth Scroll..will that work as well as a Kephet's?

Also, do you think this build could solo Jayne Forestlight for her hammer Vera?

Thanks for your time :)

[Ogel]

Oh. My. GOD.

My Assassin just got SO happy.

[Evilsod]

Hehe i started on the Kaolins earlier today too. First kill got me a Domination Staff... not bad really. Decided to do it as E/A because of the more powerful Sliver.

The problem is i can't seem to repeat it all that well. Sliver Armour ALWAYS targets the Shiro'ken Elementalists first (someone said earlier they couldn't seem to hit it, the eles damage numbers are extremely high up so you couldn't see it). After that it always goes for the Afflicted Warriors/Rangers... I could stop the Rangers charging in by using a Kekphets instead of my Totem Axe, but the Sliver Armour seems to struggle to finish them off. Specially with Ritualist ressing everything.

I might need to use A/E though for the other bosses, too many mobs around them so Shadow Form would run out.

@Aeon, Jayne can indeed be soloed. Aftershock/Gale/Shock work fine. Can be done in the same run as the Scar Eater.

[CalypsoX]

@CalypsoX: how do you get to the necro construct alive? I die by passing the elementalist construct :/
Oh, I completely forgot about the ele one (and the ranger one too :P). In any case, the the order I usually do this is Ele, Necro, Mesmer, Warrior (pathing wise). Save the monk construct for very last since its the closest and also pretty easy.

1) The path you want to take is Monk (dont kill it yet, because its easy even with 60 dp), then after, turn left up the ramp toward the mesmer construct, then left again, and to the right to lead you to the ele construct (use shadow form to run past the 2 afflicted groups). Ele is the easiest since the enemies are stationary for whatever reason. The only thing is that you must have as little dp as possible as lightning touch goes through shadow form. Use dark escape also to halve the damage.

2) To get to the necro construct, run through the mesmer construct mob (with shadow form up) in the center floor, then up and to the left. You should see the necro construct, but there is a mob blocking your path. This is where the extra seconds in shadow form matter. Put it up, speed boost through that mob, then deaths charge to the construct. Two other mobs will then collapse on you, which will only add to your damage. This is rated second easiest since the mobs are quite spread out, so the chances of sliver armor hitting correctly are very good (hasn't failed once for me yet). Note, however, that if you fail to kill the construct after the 2 other mobs move in, then I doubt it'll be possible for you to try again the second time.

3) Next up is the Mesmer construct. I had a lot of trouble with this since sliver armor almost never targets the construct for some reason. Some things I found that helped are: instead of deaths charging in, use a speed boost to run up next to it, and also, try to approach the construct when it separates from its group, rather than going in when they're all bunched up. This one's basically a toss up. You basically have to keep trying until it hits the right one.

4) After the mesmer, go the warrior by going the same way towards the necro construct, but instead of going left, turn to the right down the long hallway. There should be quite a distance between you and the construct, and 2 mobs in the way. Once again, a longer shadow form helps. Speed boost toward the construct, then deaths charge. This one is easier than the mesmer because the warrior construct will be on top of you anyway because its melee. Rust is not necessary since the damage will significantly overpower its heal sig. Sometimes, sliver armor will target an afflicted first, but after it died, it targeted the construct next, and I was still able to take it down.

I hope that was (somewhat) helpful. If not, I'll post some screenshots to guide it along.

[Evilsod]

The Warrior Construct can easily be done with E/A if you go by hte same route Calypso said. Run past hte first group using Dark Escape, then use Shadow Form, then hit Deaths Charge to leap over the gap straight to him. Shadow Refuge works well because it can stop the afflicted soul explosions killing you.

So far i've had 3 Domination Staffs and 1 Prot Staff (only killed it twice though).

Farming the Mesmer Construct is much easier with E/A. Unlike the other Kaolins the need for a longer Shadow Form isn't there (except all 3 times its dropped i've had to run back after dieing). Sliver Armour tears any targets before the Construct apart and can usually finish off the Mesmer before if runs out.

[Aeon_Enceladus]

But when playing an A/E, how is the Kaolin Blade run harder? (besides weaker Silver Armor) :ninja:

[Scott]

hm, cant do the ele construct. either the second afflicted group will follow me or the construct group attacks me. Where do you take a rest before attacking the ele construct?

[CalypsoX]

But when playing an A/E, how is the Kaolin Blade run harder? (besides weaker Silver Armor) :ninja:
It's not really. The difference is if sliver armor for some reason refuses to target the construct twice in a row, then the ele's more powerful version can kill those two faster and then the construct (potentially, haven't tried it yet) before it runs out. Since the construct is melee and always on you, I don't think this will happen. Personally, I like the longer shadow form as it allows me to pick up stuff and speed boost out without accumulating dp.

hm, cant do the ele construct. either the second afflicted group will follow me or the construct group attacks me. Where do you take a rest before attacking the ele construct?
When going down the ramp toward the ele construct, hug the right wall as close as possible. You should barely avoid aggro. On the off chance you can't avoid them, back out to the ramp past the first group. Assuming an assassin primary, dash+dark escape lets you run past that group and straight to the construct (via death charge), and still gives you enough time for sliver armor to do its thing.

[Aeon_Enceladus]

For those of you interested, this build *might* be able to take Jayne Forestlight.

The problem is that Silver Armor doesnt target her often : / Hoping someone can find a way around that.

Make sure you get Shadow Form up before aggro, cause if they use Cry of Frustration, its gg. :ninja:

Hope others have better luck with this :)

[kielus]

ok, can someone tell me what's the difference in E/A and A/E ?? cause i've been thinking between these two to make.

A/E has longer shadow form so easier to get the group together
E/A has longer sliver armor, and more dmg so less time to kill boss

do any of these two combos have any BIG advantage in farming??

[chessyang]

Desires,

/bow

Have to say is WOW..... thanks for the build. and the VIDEO!!! i'm still trying to figure it out.

Just a small, very tiny request.... Could you list the main skill in your original post? or copy and past this?

1 Shadown form (E)
2 Glyph of Elemental Power
3 Sliver Armor
4 xxxxx
5 xxxxx
6 xxxxx
7 Dark escape
8 Dash

[Desires]

ok, can someone tell me what's the difference in E/A and A/E ?? cause i've been thinking between these two to make.

A/E has longer shadow form so easier to get the group together
E/A has longer sliver armor, and more dmg so less time to kill boss

do any of these two combos have any BIG advantage in farming??

Well I perfer assassin mainly cause I am one and it gives quite a bit more time to get to boss and postion yourself ect. With Ele (no first hand exp) but it would probably be better at killing higher def bosses like rangers for example which this build has a hard time with due to the higher elemantal armor. Though odly enough darkroot seems to have either very high earth or general magic def as he only takes 16 damage from each hit(keep in mind hes a sin)

Another point to make places with onis near by work VERY well with their fast attack and always double hit adds alot of dps.

[pegasux]

where are these constructs? are they the ones in the mission at sunjiang? if so how do you keep from having mehlo and other guy from dieing. thx

[Aeon_Enceladus]

@pegasusx: You can farm the constructs in Sunjiang Explorable (outside of Zin Ku Corridor) :)

Has anyone besides me tried Jayne yet? Her mob is huge, and seems like a perfect candidate..only problem is that silver armor rarely targets her :(

[SirShadowrunner]

Nice clever build, and thx for sharing with us, very nice jesture, perfect timing to, I
have been using my Assassin heavily lately, I have good luck on necro and mesmer
bosses, but the monk and warrior bosses are a little tougher.
The Woespreader boss is cake, got two staffs this morning and then the anti-farm
message came-up, I killed the Sunreach boss twice but no shield yet, also killed Kaolin
and got his wand.

much thx for fun.....
-SirShadowrunner

[pegasux]

thx Aeon , i have killed jayne 2x so far but no vera. let her get to the outside of the group the aggro her. then as the group comes throw up your skills and she will be targeted. don't shadow step to her cause it won't work...at least not for me.

[dejsav]

there is a video or a guide for Sunreach farm please?

[Evilsod]

So far i've had 1 Shield from Sunreach. 4 Kaolin Domination Staffs. 1 Kaolin Protection Staff. 1 Scar Eater.

The Ranger boss just doesn't seem possible with either, its armour is just too strong.

Elementalists Construct doesn't seem to like to die either. Might be because i usually go for it later on when i have dp so Mirror/Touch kill me :p

The necro is extremely easy. I'm not entirely sure why someone posted to say you can't kill it if the groups all move in, its the only time i've been able to. The groups are so tightly nit if the Construct wanders to the side nearest you you can Deaths Charge to it and get a pretty much guarantee a kill.

The Warrior Construct seems to have problems with dieing... i use Rust primarily for him. But either Sliver doesn't target him first or there just isn't enough agro to kill him.

Monk is extremely easy... shadow form up the ramp, wait till the group to the right is nearest him and bow lure the group to the left before Shadow Forming. Plenty of damage.

I've only killed Jayne 3 times but so far i've never had any problems. Its never targetted another enemy. So far thats only happened with Constructs and Sunreach.

[Ic Zero]

when farming sunreach i always seem to trigger trap and get cripple, bleeding then touch to death by wallows

[dejsav]

I can't kill Sunreach, I always die

help please :(

[Desires]

when farming sunreach i always seem to trigger trap and get cripple, bleeding then touch to death by wallows
I get touched by wallows to but its usally surviable. and in regards to trap some times it cna't be helped but with practice you learn where it normaly is and rember always shadow step to the warden of wind so the others cna't knock you down as seen in video.

[pegasux]

i nvr see a warden of winds there to ss to...only the forest and the ranger guys =(. so i have to go through the direct path and miss out on the assassin boss.

just curious...what are you guys selling the shield for and how long does it take you?

[Evilsod]

Sunreach is easier as E/A imo. Length of Shadow Form makes no difference as he's practically in front of you. Also means its more doable with higher dp so you can kill off the Wallows first if you want.

The traps are extremely annoying though, but they don't compare with Shiro'ken Elementalists.... they're frigging relentless!!

[pegasux]

evilsod,

i wish i could just get to the dang monk construct withough dying =(. i have problems getting past the first group without getting hexed and burned =(. how are you getting to him with no degen?

[Scott]

thx calypsoX, ele construct works fine now :)



evilsod,

i wish i could just get to the dang monk construct withough dying =(. i have problems getting past the first group without getting hexed and burned =(. how are you getting to him with no degen?

run through the first group, then you come to the first group of afflicted, there you use shadow form and dark escape to run down to the monk construct BUT NOT INTO IT. instead you run up the next ramp (to your right) to have a rest there. from there you can start your attack for the monk construct.

[CalypsoX]

The VERY first group you will encounter are amfah. These guys can get pretty annoying, especially the rangers trapping everywhere, and the degen owning you when you're heavily dp'ed. What I like to do is throw up shadow form, lead them to the first group of afflicted/shiroken, then deaths charge/dark escape away. It helps save some annoyances later on.

And as for running through afflicted, as scott said, shadow form is your friend.

@Evilsod - I suspect your experiences are different than mine just due to the sometimes random targeting of sliver armor. I've had it attack the boss, then once mobs collapse in, suddenly switch to an afflicted, then a shiroken, etc. etc.. In my experience, it seems that once sliver armor picks a target, it stays on that target no matter how many times it and/or you die.

For example, I go in the mesmer construct group, target the construct, then sliver armor targets afflicted (warriors or sins) and kills them. I die, rits rez the afflicted. I go back in, I target the construct again, and sliver armor decides to attack the warriors or sins again (are they same ones, I can't tell exactly, but it happens so many times its more than just a coicidence I think).

[pegasux]

thx scott and calypsox =) i'll give it a shot now, btw what are you guys getting for the shield?

[Evilsod]

Hehe, i've been luring them down into the Shiro'kens too. Those trappers get extremely annoying.

It does indeed seem that once its target has been chosen nothing will make it change its mind. I've been in a complete deadlock with the Mesmer Construct sometimes. Sliver Armour always targetted the Afflicted Assassin first... killed it... then went to work on the Mesmer Construct. At 10% health left they'd res the frigging Assassin and it'd go back to attacking it! Usually meaning the Mesmer survived till the end of Sliver and i'd have to run off. After doing this for the 5th time in a row i got bored, why the hell can't monsters get death penalty!

Its extremely annoying, it seems to have something against Spirits too, whenever 1 has been nearby its always targetted it above everything else.

For the shield i got 50k. I had interest in the first 20 seconds of trying to sell it. 1 said it was the wrong req the other was a moron trying to scam me offering gold not plat. Didn't seem to take too long to finda buyer though, just have to be in the right place. I got 60k for 1 of my 4 Kaolin Domination Staffs in 5 seconds of trying (2 i've sold to guildies for 25k the other i'm working on).

[dejsav]

wardens always knock me down and I can't arrive to Sunreach

where must I go?

[Desires]

wardens always knock me down and I can't arrive to Sunreach

where must I go?

Thats why you bring death charge.

[pegasux]

wow guess they go for a lot more on the us servers...tried selling for 50k on the euro and didn't get a single bite...lowere to 45 and only got people with counter offers of 30k...finally sold 4 at 40k.

[Evilsod]

Pegasux, i think you need to check my location if that was directed at me :p

The other way to get past hte wardens is to stop when they get close, usually making em waste it. Deaths Charge would be better for it though.

[dejsav]

I need to spawn also assassin boss?

[Desires]

I need to spawn also assassin boss?

It helps. Going from the far side has a much better chance I usaly only die in 1in 10-20 cause sometimes it jsut way to hard to target him.

[dejsav]

DROPPED! YES!

thank you all ^^

[moenbase]

Perhaps we can make a nice list of bosses ya can farm with it.
And prefered skillset.

Makes it a lot easier navagating this thread :}

Also, Warrior Warden seems to be a problem still, he keeps getting healed by some ritualist bloke. :/
I find it hardest at him to get Sliver Armor target it right. Only been able to kill him once in about 6 runs.
Gonna try adding Rust, perhaps that helps a bit.

[Evilsod]

Christ the Mesmer Construct must have a thing for me. Since i began farming with this build about 2/3 days ago i've had a grand total of 1 Protection Staff, 1 Accursed Staff, 7 Domination Staffs. I've practically given up on the Ele Construct and Warrior Constructs. The Ele is just awkward and the Warrior just won't die often enough.

But if anyone does happen to get a Kaolin Blade, i want it!

[CalypsoX]

Yea, I made a suggestion earlier about making a hit list. Since I stumpled upon list, I have a huge laundry list of bosses I've tried, most of whom aren't listed anywhere in this forum because they either can't be separated or their group is too hard. Atm though, it seems like this thread is mostly about sunreach and kaolin farming.

Since it's Desires' thread and build, I'll leave it up to him what to do. If he's willing to setup the list on the first post, that's fine. Otherwise, I'd be more than happy to start a fresh thread with a list and guidelines for each one.

[dejsav]

which skills you use for mesmer and monk construct?

[Scott]

The Build works good on Kyril Oathwarden. Also tried Arbor Earthcall, but he doesnt get enough dmg. Not to be off-topic, but has anybody a nice build for him? :)

[Calvein]

which skills you use for mesmer and monk construct?

Jeez, look the screenshots at the 2nd page.

[dejsav]

ops sorry ^^"

[Scott]

The Build works good on Kyril Oathwarden. Also tried Arbor Earthcall, but he doesnt get enough dmg. Not to be off-topic, but has anybody a nice build for him? :)

figured it out by myself

[Evilsod]

Yea, I made a suggestion earlier about making a hit list. Since I stumpled upon list, I have a huge laundry list of bosses I've tried, most of whom aren't listed anywhere in this forum because they either can't be separated or their group is too hard. Atm though, it seems like this thread is mostly about sunreach and kaolin farming.

What did you expect? People farm for money. Kaolins are the most valuable non-elite mission greens in Factions. In the last few days i've had 7 Kaolin Domination Staffs drop. Thats 50-60k each making it a grand total of 350-420k for practically nothing. 2 of them went to guildies for a discount, 5 sold for a total of 220k. Not to mention 2 Accursed Staffs (not sold) for a potential 100k each. Sunreaches Shield is worth 40-50k also, but can be an extremely awkward farm. If when you get there you find its impossible to kill them because Sliver won't target properly you have to restart. With Kaolins you can just wander off and go attempt another boss.
Theres really not much point farming bosses like Jayne imho. Vera is seemingly a very rare drop that sells for 40k... plus there are many problems people are having killing her.

When it comes to getting money its ALOT quicker to simply kill these Kaolin Bosses or Constructs, sell there valuable items and buy whatever green your after. I'd only go for the Scar Eater because the farm itself takes about 60seconds using an E/A.

Not to mention that with the AB event coming up there will be alot less people farming them.

[CalypsoX]

My point is that this build is able to tackle bosses that were previously considered impossible or painfully long to solo (a la priest pulling). People farm for money, but there are those that farm to collect, and others that do it for the challenge. And no, I'm not talking about doing jayne and or scar eater - that's been overdone too much as it is. Look at my list on page 2, and you'll see where I'm going. Also, if you really are bent on selling stuff, there are many collectors out there that are waiting to snatch up the greens that aren't currently in mass supply.
If when you get there you find its impossible to kill them because Sliver won't target properly you have to restart.
Not sure I understand this statement. If you're referring to dp, its largely irrelevant to this build. If you're referring to random targetting, it will eventually target the boss once some of the melee are killed off (and as far as I know, no other boss farming spots have rits that rez). And if you're referring to the fact that the constructs happen to be near each other, that's the case for the majority of bosses in factions - siska, ssun, and ssyn are all near the same area in archipelagos, while Cho and Rien are both in shenzun tunnels.

@Scott - Damn, I forgot about ele boss again. Might as well take care of him while you're doing Kyril, Sunreach, and gang.

[Aeon_Enceladus]

I think Evilsod means that if Silver doesnt target, you gotta run all the way back again (which can be painstaking in the Sunreach farm)

Mesmer construct is easy to solo, but like 1:5 times, Silver targets him/her :)

Haven't gotten staff yet, but I reckon I will soon.

[Xaero Gouki Kriegor]

wow if only visage skills could fit in this build, if only that could be true, uw = soloable by sin

[Scott]

wow if only visage skills could fit in this build, if only that could be true, uw = soloable by sin

and what do you do at the end of shadowform? ^^

[Mistical miss]

shadow of haste will deal with that ;)

[moenbase]

What did you expect? People farm for money.
I actually farm for sport. (And there are probably more)
To see if it actually works. I don't really like spamming "WTS blabla" for an hour to get 60k.
Not that I can't use it, but it's too time consuming, and too boring to keep spamming WTS's.
Anyway, there is also a list of farming builds, so might as well make a list of farmable bosses then.
And I can see the Kaolin stuff drop in prices very fast, just like the Stonereaper. :D 1 week it's 15k, next week it's 3 for 10k.


About the E/A thing. The problem is that Sliver Armor only increases the duration by 1 then.
Beside that, Shadowform will only last about 17 seconds.
This gives you less time to actually lure the mobs.

Although a 20% Enchantment mod, and energy staff is really prefered to keep the expensive skills like Gale up.

I think the best chance of having Sliver Armor targetting the right mob, is to wait till the boss is kind of alone. Then either rush in, or use Death's Charge.
Death's Charge seems to work pretty fine, but not all bosses. Sunreach is still a problem.


wow if only visage skills could fit in this build, if only that could be true, uw = soloable by sin
I think it'll kill too slow for that.
I don't know how many hp an Attaxe or the phantom dude has, but I think it'll be too much.
Well unless you lure a lot of mobs perhaps, and run back everytime.

[Evilsod]

Not sure I understand this statement. If you're referring to dp, its largely irrelevant to this build. If you're referring to random targetting, it will eventually target the boss once some of the melee are killed off (and as far as I know, no other boss farming spots have rits that rez). And if you're referring to the fact that the constructs happen to be near each other, that's the case for the majority of bosses in factions - siska, ssun, and ssyn are all near the same area in archipelagos, while Cho and Rien are both in shenzun tunnels.

Well it meant both... Having to restart the run because some bosses you just can't flee from, specially wardens, before Shadow Form wears off so you die. And having to zone back. Killing off the melee is all good... but then what do you use to power Sliver Armour? If it kills off half the melee targets there before finally going after your boss not only have you lost considerable firepower, which healing can very easily outdo but you've lost alot of time you could've spent simply farming something more stable.

I have absolutely no idea about Sliver Armours targetting. For some reason yesterday it utterly despised Afflicted/Shiro'ken Assassins. It also seems to target Fungal Wallows instantly and sometimes Wardens. But what about the Scar Eater? I've lured 2 groups along with the boss group many times and never had it target anything but the boss. Perhaps its just Undergrowth/Kirins... but its never targetted them over the boss.

It could well be it targets the highest level enemy first... which would explain the tendency to attack lvl28 Shiro'kens over lvl24 Bosses... but that doesn't always stand true.


Whats the problem with E/A? 3/4 of the bosses listed have absolutely no groups before them or the groups don't deal enough damage to warrent an early Shadow Form. Mesmer Construct? This boss can be on the edge of your agro before needing to cast Shadow Form. Monk Construct, same again. Scar Eater, again. Jayne? Sunreach? And probably many more. Its only for bosses like the Warrior Construct that are very difficult to reach due to mobs beforehand that can easily kill you. The bonus to A/E though is that when Sliver Armour wears off on most of htese bosses you can just turn around and run off with Dark Escape and rest up for another try.

[Alvthebest]

My problem with a Necro Kaolin is that i never with himself that silver armor attack to boss

[johnmedgla]

Subtle change for stupidly easy Kyril Farming: A/Mo

16 Shadow
12 Smite

Shadow Form
Scourge Sacrifice
Dark Escape
Death's Charge
Bane Sig
Stonesoul Strike
Spear of Light
Purge Conditions (nto really needed, but it can help if lacerate is up and you stray into a trap)

Wait till Kyril's Group is spread out, to try and avoid Shockwave from teh Earth Wardens, then immediately throw on Shadow form, Scourge Sacrifice (on Kyril) and Death's charge to him. 9/10 times he'll throw up Cultist's Fervor and Sac himself to death in a few seconds. If he doesn't throw up Fervor, you're pretty well screwed I'm afraid, write it off to bad luck and start again.

Other skills are just for damage, I find tehy help if he's at 10% and refuses to cast, or God Forbid, Cultist's Fervor runs out before he dies.

Success rate is close to 90%, and the whole run takes around three minutes from Durheim.

Grats on the A/E build btw, I can see lots of people are having luck with it, but I seem to be cursed. When I approach Sunreach/Falaharn's group, either head on or looping past the warden spawn to go for the back route, I get killed by patrols/wallows. If I throw Shadow Form up too early to avoid them, it runs out before the boss is dead. I'm sure I'm just cocking up somehwere, so I guess I'll persevere.

With Solo Farming Builds, and yesterday's across the board buff, there's never been a better time to love your 'sin!

edited for a stupid skill mistake, tiredness ftl!

[Scott]

My problem with a Necro Kaolin is that i never with himself that silver armor attack to boss

yeah thats the main problem with SLIVER (;) ) armor. But when you use shadow step it will trigger at the necro construct at least at the second time (so first a melee, but then the construct). Are you sure you used Death's Charge?

[moenbase]

For the Mesmer Construct.
You can get on the ramp thing Above him. Then Death Charge on him make a fast Sliver Armor, and it's usually a more succesful hit. :}

But navigating can be a major problem there because the bridges are 'bugged'.
(clicking on the bridge results in an actual click under the bridge.)

[Aeon_Enceladus]

Keyboard movement ftw :P

But yeah, that's really useful, Death's Charge. I find that Sliver Armor targets diagonally, sometimes I move a little to correct the targetting, and it works.

[Zerimar]

/applause /bow /WOOT WOOT

Great Job on the build.
So exciting!!
This goes down in history.:D



oh and /Favorits-Add to favorites

[Ima Hob0]

i was thinking abut the possibilities of farming trolls with this, but then i realized that this build is mostly for one specific target, and silver armor wouldnt have too much.

[Karmaniac]

Killed Darkroot succesfully (not a terrible surprise, huh?). Nevertheless I find having Rajazan's Fervor (can be substituted for with Totem Axe but I like the way he runs with sword :) ) and a collector Earth Scroll with Earth Magic +1/20 and +30hp. Best of both worlds right?

EDIT: Uhh, and great build too m8

[CalypsoX]

Killing off the melee is all good... but then what do you use to power Sliver Armour?
Well, here's the good news.
1) Anything that attacks you triggers sliver armor - this includes spirits and even random uncharmed pets that happen to want to attack you for whatever reason (yes, it does happen).
2) Sliver armor is triggered by attacks AND spells targetting you.
3) There's a lot of flexibility with the build because the only really must have skills are shadow form and sliver. For example, I've killed Bahnba Shockfoot, Lukrker Foulfist, Sourbeak Rotshell, even though their group consists only of a max of 4 enemies (minus boss) total. Here's an example also where Ele primary is imporant, since you need the stronger sliver armor and damage spells.
My build is:
Shadow Form
Sliver Armor
Glyph of Elemental Power
Deaths Charge
Tenai Crystals
Obsidian Flame
Dark Escape
Dash
The boss's group is random - mix of rangers, rits, and warriors. Many times I kill off the warriors first, but I'm still able to take the boss down because the rits drop attacking spirits and I spam my damage spells whenever they come up. You can probably drop dash and put in another damage spell too (crystal wave).

[moenbase]

3) Here's an example also where Ele primary is imporant, since you need the stronger sliver armor and damage spells.


Problem what I see with E as a primairy is that Sliver doesn't really add much time duration, only 1 (?) second more. Perhaps the damage increases more, haven't checked on that.
Also, Shadow Form is only 17 seconds I think?


But I'll have to try this tomorrow then. Made an E/A though, but when I saw the spells i wasn't really that confident in the build. Perhaps it does work out nicely though.
If the Kirin in the same area as Sourbeak needs really all the mobs in order to finish him off. I've tried it numberous times without the other (3-4) Kirin close to the group, but failed it everytime since it doesn't do enough damage.
So I wonder how I can kill Sourbeak then since he's in a much much smaller group.
But then again, I haven't tried, perhaps he has a weak against Earth.

How do you do Bhanba btw since he uses a shockwave that causes instant death. Goes right through Shadow Form.

[CalypsoX]

Problem what I see with E as a primairy is that Sliver doesn't really add much time duration, only 1 (?) second more. Perhaps the damage increases more, haven't checked on that.
Also, Shadow Form is only 17 seconds I think?


But I'll have to try this tomorrow then. Made an E/A though, but when I saw the spells i wasn't really that confident in the build. Perhaps it does work out nicely though.
If the Kirin in the same area as Sourbeak needs really all the mobs in order to finish him off. I've tried it numberous times without the other (3-4) Kirin close to the group, but failed it everytime since it doesn't do enough damage.
So I wonder how I can kill Sourbeak then since he's in a much much smaller group.
But then again, I haven't tried, perhaps he has a weak against Earth.

How do you do Bhanba btw since he uses a shockwave that causes instant death. Goes right through Shadow Form.
The damage is very significant because each time sliver armor hits, it does an additional 8 damage (at 14 earth for a sin which is 33 compared to 18 earth for elementalist which is 41), which really adds up since it's always hitting the same target. Dark escape halves the damage from shockwave, but it will still kill you if you have more than 40% dp (approximately). Do not get poisoned though by the traps. Read my post again, because you're in a smaller mob, you utilize your other damage spells to do the job. During the duration of sliver or shadow, whichever is shorter, you can get off 1 tenai/crystal (due to the recharge) and 2 obsidian flames (one of which can be glyphed). Add in another crystal wave, and you're looking at close to 500 additional armor ignoring damage.

[J54W]

can you pls write down sunreachs skill setup and "how to" list?! this thread is very messed up.:D

p.s. realy nice builds, im proud that even sins know how to solo :cool:

[moenbase]

There's really something fishy about Sliver Armor.
When I fight the Skill Eater with it, with about 5 mobs around me I can most of the time get it to target the boss. But when I do the same trick to the Roottripper boss in Mount Qinkai who only has 1 or 2 other mobs around me, then it'll always target the others.
Even better, it jumps from targetting the boss to another mob :s

[ateddybear]

Time to make an assassin ^.^

Not looking forward of going through the campaign though.

[Evilsod]

Well, here's the good news.
1) Anything that attacks you triggers sliver armor - this includes spirits and even random uncharmed pets that happen to want to attack you for whatever reason (yes, it does happen).
2) Sliver armor is triggered by attacks AND spells targetting you.
3) There's a lot of flexibility with the build because the only really must have skills are shadow form and sliver. For example, I've killed Bahnba Shockfoot, Lukrker Foulfist, Sourbeak Rotshell, even though their group consists only of a max of 4 enemies (minus boss) total.

I'm not stupid. I know what Sliver Armour activates off. But wands do bugger all, spells also aren't repeatadly cast 'that' often. A ranger attacks 2s-2.8s. A wand is slow, dunno the time. A melee sword warrior is 1.3s, assassins are 1.3/0.65s. The damage coming off those is significantly greater than the casters. Not to mention half of them STOP attacking to heal your target.

[CalypsoX]

Nor did I say you were. My main point is that sliver armor IS NOT your only means of killing something. This whole conversation got started because you claimed it was pointless to go farm anything else, and your reasoning was monetary based. As I have said and someone else, not everyone goes boss hunting just to get rich, and the flexibility of this build allows someone to tackle almost any kind of boss (minus rangers) where there are mobs nearby, and that even a small mob of 3 or 4 enemies is still workable.

[MelechRic]

Time to make an assassin ^.^

Not looking forward of going through the campaign though.

Hmm... I'm not sure I would make one if I didn't have one already. As you've mentioned, getting through the campaign is a chore with a sin. Also, think of the countless hordes of sins that are farming these greens into the dirt. Eventually you'll be able to buy at rock-bottom prices.

I've got a lowbie sin, but the thought of going through this content again is so uninspiring that I think I'll wait.

The only real reason to go through with a sin now would be so that it's ready an waiting for farming in Nightfall.

Just my $0.02

[Desires]

Hmm... I'm not sure I would make one if I didn't have one already. As you've mentioned, getting through the campaign is a chore with a sin. Also, think of the countless hordes of sins that are farming these greens into the dirt. Eventually you'll be able to buy at rock-bottom prices.

I've got a lowbie sin, but the thought of going through this content again is so uninspiring that I think I'll wait.

The only real reason to go through with a sin now would be so that it's ready an waiting for farming in Nightfall.

Just my $0.02

Thats why I released the build actaully. If your willing to take a sin through the campain its not like makeing a 55 monk for underworld then you earned it lol. Also with how prices are already slowly lowering on things like sunreach it might not be worth the time for some people to make one.

[Thom Bangalter]

Well, now I realize why I was sucking so bad, i was relying way to heavily on sliver armor to do my damage, and only bringing like aftershock as another attack skill.

The thing that sucks about this build, for me, is that the boss I most want to farm does aoe nontargetted attacks, so it slides under shadow form. Oh well...Great build for the bosses it works on, I just may never get that offhand....

[Evilsod]

Nor did I say you were. My main point is that sliver armor IS NOT your only means of killing something. This whole conversation got started because you claimed it was pointless to go farm anything else, and your reasoning was monetary based. As I have said and someone else, not everyone goes boss hunting just to get rich, and the flexibility of this build allows someone to tackle almost any kind of boss (minus rangers) where there are mobs nearby, and that even a small mob of 3 or 4 enemies is still workable.

It still has its limits. With 3 to 4 enemies in a mob it may be workable... but the chances are its easier to do with a million other farming builds too. Fair enough people like to make a complete list... but the majority of people who have Assassins will have another character capable of the solo. Even a touch ranger is flexible in the sense only 3 skills are set in stone (and even then 1 can be altered on rare occasions). Imo if you can kill it with 1 character thats all that really matters. The only exceptions really would be bosses like Sskai who the fastest (warrior) farm is very high risk, so others are wanted.

Meh, i've been doing fine farming Kaolins using nothing but Sliver for damage. Unless Rust counts for the Warrior :p Its a shame i can't go /R and bring Frozen Soil...

[Mistical miss]

Raisu palace explorable: the oni and the mesmer boss are not that hard to kill (be sure to have 2 groups attacking when u aggro the boss) with glyph-sliver

both drop mediocre - bad greens, but its fun trying :)

[CalypsoX]

I'd go after Sseer and probably Byrne, their greens are highly desired.

Well, now I realize why I was sucking so bad, i was relying way to heavily on sliver armor to do my damage, and only bringing like aftershock as another attack skill.

The thing that sucks about this build, for me, is that the boss I most want to farm does aoe nontargetted attacks, so it slides under shadow form. Oh well...Great build for the bosses it works on, I just may never get that offhand....
Use dark escape to halve damage. Use earth magic armor buffs. Use shadow refuge and/or aura of restoration. Be creative. Btw, which boss are you referring to?

[zadinos]

One quastion guys. The door to constructs are closed for me outside Zin Ku.
Anyone here knows which q or mission opens the door for me?

[moenbase]

You need to do Sunjiang mission first.
And probably also Arborstone and Boreas Seabed if you haven't done it yet.

I've tried that E/A build now on Sourbeak. Only been able to kill him once though.
All the other times his friends were killing me with some shockwave things, even with Dark Escape it still kills me.

Also tried the Scar Eater, and with this build you don't need knockdowns to kill him, even if he does Healing Burst you can most of the time outdamage him. You just have to wait with Sliver so Kirins, and Undergrowth will be close to you.

The Koalin Domination staff also dropped for me now on my A/E. It really took me a long time because Sliver almost never target the right mob. And running away isn't always an option.

The Yeti Ritualist boss in Mount Qinkai can also be done pretty easy with the E/A.

Same as with the Ranger yeti boss in Mount Qinkai which i can't target, as well as the Woe Spreader in Maishang Hills, and the channeling boss right outside Jade Flats (Luxon). It just refuses to target them for some reason.

I still do have problems with the Time Eater though. I can't do enough damage for him to kill him. Also sometimes he interupts your Sliver Armor with a signet when you have Shadow Form up. :{

[zadinos]

Ty for your help :). I have some missions left then.

[Northrog]

Thanx for the build I've just dropped the everthorn's chakrams.

I use a slight variation :

- shadow form
- glyph of elemental power
- silver armor
- obsidian flame
- teinai's crystals
- aftershock
- shadow of haste
- dark escape

Shadow of haste + dark escape can make you teleport back if something goes wrong. It happens often that silver armor miss the intended target even with death's charge. So the above combo is very usefull.

[Hyourinmaru]

just a question why doesnt sliver always hit??
i did sunreach like 60 times and i only killed him like 5 times -___-

[Evilsod]

Northrog... why bring Aftershock with no knockdown? Why not just bring Crystal Wave?

If we knew how to make Sliver armour target specific targets... we'd of all had about 3million worth of Kaolins drop by now.

[pegasux]

sweet got the kaolin accursed staff and blade =).
killed the monk(8x)/mermer(7x) but no drops.

[Northrog]

Northrog... why bring Aftershock with no knockdown? Why not just bring Crystal Wave?



Because it's a bit hard in energy management. I've to buy a veil armor... I will because you're obviously right.

[Scott]

Because it's a bit hard in energy management. I've to buy a veil armor... I will because you're obviously right.

no, you dont have to buy a new armor. Just bring the earth scroll that you can get in vasbourg armory for 5 dragon roots (can be farmed outside pongmei valley). that gives you an additional amount of 27 nrg points that will reach for a complete combo of shadowform>shadowstep>ele attunement>sliver>rust>obsidianflame>crystalwave :D

for the other hand i recommend rajazans fervor for the enchantments and further 5 nrg points ;-)

any more questions? :D :D :D

[Aeon_Enceladus]

Is there any special way to make it to the warrior construct?

When I'm (trying) to farm the Mesmer Construct, I see the warrior one across the way when I press CTRL.

I'm thinking, how the heck do I get there? =P

Gonna keep grinding Necro construct. I think Sliver targets him more than it does for the Mesmer.

[Ecksor]

yeah, you run through the mesmer area, then to the left to where the warrior is, but rest just before the stairs that go up to him. when ur ready, cast shadow form, dash, then when you're in range deaths charge to him, and get up sliver armor. use shock when he uses his heal sig, then aftershock after. GG warrior construct

[D Fault]

Shadow of haste is godly with this build.

Use it in a nice, safe spot then charge on in.

If the boss doesnt drop, break the stance to step out and get ready for another try.

Its nice finishing a run with a morale boost instead of dp.

[DreadZero]

Question: Is an Enchantments Last 20% Longer mod on whatever (staff/wand) you use required? Or does the build work fine without one?

[CalypsoX]

Imo if you can kill it with 1 character thats all that really matters.
In that case this build is pointless since there's already a thread about soloing sunreach.

[Scott]

Question: Is an Enchantments Last 20% Longer mod on whatever (staff/wand) you use required?

-Yes.

[moenbase]

It isn't always required, but it does help a lot.
It still can be 2 seconds more Sliver Armor which is another 100ish dmg or so :}

Has anyone been able to kill that ele boss behind the Scar Eater yet?
I think it's something with Shatterstone(?)

[dejsav]

sweet got the kaolin accursed staff and blade =).
killed the monk(8x)/mermer(7x) but no drops. do you kill necro and warrior with the same skills?

[pegasux]

do you kill necro and warrior with the same skills?
yes i kill the necro, warrior, mesmer, and monk with the same setup and on the same run. i die pretty often but i never rezone until i kill em all. to worried about a wasted run before the drops diminish.

[Evilsod]

In that case this build is pointless since there's already a thread about soloing sunreach.

Yeah your right. Can an admin please close this thread? Its obviously worthless been as its the only known way to solo farm Kaolin bosses...idiot. And how quick n easy is this existing solo farming build exactly?

With the Warrior Construct i usually either:

Stand on the edge of agro of the group on the top level behind the Necro Construct, cast Shadow Form, Dash in and Deaths Charge over.

Or watch the patrols in the background and Shadow Form (or not if your feeling lucky) then run through the group and go left to hide in the corner and go in from there once your ready.

I usually go in with only Rust for Kaolin farming purely for the Warrior. Everything else is killed purely by Shadow Form, although Crystal Wave/Tenais Crystals might be a good choice (if i wanted to drop Shadow Refuge) since it hits everything around so killing anything else Sliver targets quicker too.

[Desires]

Yeah your right. Can an admin please close this thread? Its obviously worthless been as its the only known way to solo farm Kaolin bosses...idiot. And how quick n easy is this existing solo farming build exactly?

With the Warrior Construct i usually either:

Stand on the edge of agro of the group on the top level behind the Necro Construct, cast Shadow Form, Dash in and Deaths Charge over.

Or watch the patrols in the background and Shadow Form (or not if your feeling lucky) then run through the group and go left to hide in the corner and go in from there once your ready.

I usually go in with only Rust for Kaolin farming purely for the Warrior. Everything else is killed purely by Shadow Form, although Crystal Wave/Tenais Crystals might be a good choice (if i wanted to drop Shadow Refuge) since it hits everything around so killing anything else Sliver targets quicker too.

Actualy this is one spot where I find shadow refuge nice to have with songs of mist burning speed soul explosion ect.

Sorry I haven't been posting as much but been busy I also discovered this build can farm in raisue palace aswell but its harder and the low value of drops make it not worth the time.

[CalypsoX]

Yeah your right. Can an admin please close this thread? Its obviously worthless been as its the only known way to solo farm Kaolin bosses...idiot. And how quick n easy is this existing solo farming build exactly? You just contradicted what you said earlier. If one build exists already, that's all that matters, right? It doesn't matter if it's painfully long or whatever. As for the whole Kaolin thing, this thread's initial hoop-la was over sunreach, and I believe that was Desire's intention for posting this to begin with http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10041978. Then according to you, he shouldn't have bothered.

If want to flame me, don't bother. I'm done arguing since I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine. I suggested something, and you seem to have some strange objection to it even when it has absolutely no effect on you or what anyone else is doing.

[Desires]

You just contradicted what you said earlier. If one build exists already, that's all that matters, right? It doesn't matter if it's painfully long or whatever. As for the whole Kaolin thing, this thread's initial hoop-la was over sunreach, and I believe that was Desire's intention for posting this to begin with http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10041978. Then according to you, he shouldn't have bothered.

If want to flame me, don't bother. I'm done arguing since I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine. I suggested something, and you seem to have some strange objection to it even when it has absolutely no effect on you or what anyone else is doing.

Actauly I only released my build because people(mainly those in my alliance) thought I was full of BS when I said what I did with my sin. I think people mainly focused on sunreach due to his green value and the fact I took out him and the sin boss in seconds, But yes I forgot to mention earlier this is hardly just a sunreach solo build if thats all people want to use it for all the power to them.

[zadinos]

Hi guys im having real hard time getting silver to target bosses even when i use Death Charge skill.
Happens all the time that silver targets w or assasins , any gd ideas?

[Rah Balder]

Wow i've been playin around with this build now for 4 days now and it's simply amazing. Thanks for Sharing!

It's fun to just run around and look for Bosses and try to Assasinate them :D

Has anyone killed Deeproot Sorrow yet?

[Alberic]

Great build!

I thought I'd give it a try in a rather popular farming spot, and here's what happened...

:D

[ph0bolus]

how the hell can you aggro sunreach and the sin boss at the same time? whenever i aggro sunreach im already halfway dead...

[Desires]

how the hell can you aggro sunreach and the sin boss at the same time? whenever i aggro sunreach im already halfway dead...

You agro the sin first...

[dejsav]

how the hell can you aggro sunreach and the sin boss at the same time? whenever i aggro sunreach im already halfway dead... aggro sunreach from that way

http://gw.gamewikis.org/images/9/9e/Falaharn_Mistwarden_Location.jpg

there is a list of farmable bosses with this build please? thanks

I can farm Sunreach, Mesmer and Monk Construct, Kyril, Sessk and Sskai

[ph0bolus]

ok i see the path but whenever i try to take that way a group of wardens pop up, knock me down and end my life..i've killed sunreach a couple times taking the other route

[dejsav]

ok i see the path but whenever i try to take that way a group of wardens pop up, knock me down and end my life..i've killed sunreach a couple times taking the other route use dark escape

[Alberic]

Sessk, Woe Spreader goes down really easily, though I doubt his green is worth much.

[dejsav]

Sessk, Woe Spreader goes down really easily, though I doubt his green is worth much. 2 Woe drop and I have sold 15k each

[Alberic]

2 Woe drop and I have sold 15k each
Ah, cool...Tomton Spiriteater is pretty easy, too. ;)

[iksarious noom]

ok, first thing, i was thinkiing of instead of shock+gale, u sould have shock+whirlwind. this makes it slightly slower recharge, but then again ur saving urself from more exhaustion...just wondering.!

[zadinos]

Anyone tryed Ranger Construct , LOL his armor is so gd. Im doing like 13 dmg on him with silver a. LOL. Almoust had him once but stupid assasin came and took over the silver armor dmg.
With mesmer i have serius probs silver armor never targets him. In my 50 runs or so only 2 times silver targets him , som im doing wrong?
Maybe i need to run to rum across like with monk con.? Anyway anyone can explain to me how you come to w. I know that you go to him right after the bridge to mesmer , i can see him but his to long from that area. There is one group of afflicted betwen him and i need to put a shadow form on when running. Then after i dont have anywere to hide before fighting.
Anyone who can explain this for me or just show me in game i would be very thanksful.
My IGN is Zadino The Crazy

[nani80]

If you want to kill costructors, make sure, that there are Shiroken Warrior or Assassin next to them, because there attacks are very fast and that mean more dmg from Silver Armor. I almost killed Ranger Construct, but i had to run away (Shadow of Haste is your friend ;) ) because Shiroken Elementalist.:mad:

I m sure, if Shiroken Warrior or Assassin attacking you, you can kill any constructor

[D Fault]

The problem being that if a war or ass is attacking you, sliver will often target them instead of the boss...

[zadinos]

Thats right , its kinda strange. If we take Monk Con as example. If i go for him directly silveralways target assasin or w , but if i run past him to that road which leads to mesmer and w8 to recharge then go for him that way or side , silver armor always targets him always , kinda strange dont you think?
I have same w and assasins on me and even more w and assasins but always monk is a target.

[moenbase]

I don't really have problems targetting this boss. I do however have problems to out heal him, he also gets healed by his Afflicted monk buddies. :{

[zadinos]

To kill him is easy use this dmg skills , silver armor(ofcourse) , stone daggers , afteschock , tenaiscristalls.
Many ppl think why i use stone daggers and its simple cos you can cast many times before you die.
I never failed in killing monk with this line of setup.

[Evilsod]

I have tried the Ranger Construct.... then decided it was a complete waste of effort :p

The only annoying part is when you go to target a boss and Sliver attacks a frigging Shiro'ken Ranger doing a truly awesome 11 damage... lvl28 Shiro'kens die alot slower than the lvl24 bosses.

All of these Constructs (bar Ranger) can be killed with just Sliver for damage (Guess you could call Rust extra damage in a way). You just need to agro as much as possible in most cases, Necro Construct is extremely easy with 4 groups there, Monk has 3, Mesmer has 3, Warrior has 2-5 (but is a bastard).

Does Sliver ALWAYS seem to target Fungal Wallows first? I can only remember it automatically killing them first whenever i did Sunreach.

[nani80]

Use Shadow of Haste and you can try as many time as you want.
Find a save spot use SOH and attack, if silver dont target boss, quickly use Dark Escape (you dont want to kill wrong foe) and you will be back where you activate SOH and then try again. I use this tactic until my Silver Armor start to targeting boss. I do the whole run without DP.

When i attacking Monk Construct i do dmg but he out heal my dmg, but when Shiroken Assassin or Warrior start attacking me he die very fast.

[toric brightblade]

was silver armor nerfed? i hear silveer armor was nerfed..taht mean build RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed too?

[Calvein]

Sliver armor isn't nerfed (yet ?).

[Zerimar]

Finally got my sin past suijang. Curse staff on my 1st attempt. Tried all the other constructs and found the warrior to be the hardest. Oh well gonna keep trying. Awesome build.

[Calvein]

I love Sunreach, I beat him all the time (not really, 2/3), the run take less than a minute and the shield cost ~50k :]


/kiss Desires

[AscalonWarrior]

Can you upload the video to Filefront please? I can't watch videos in YouTube. Complains something about Macromedia Flashplayer.

[Zerimar]

having problems; silver armor is not targeting the warrior. Im sure most of you have the same problems. Can anyone enlightenment on the situation.

[Truong]

Absolutely amazing. You've encouraged me to work on my Assassin.

[toric brightblade]

guys plz help. silver armor isnt targeting the boss, it just goes to a random guy!

how do i fix this?

[Rah Balder]

All i get is Kaolin Accursed Staff's. Anyone wanna trade for Kaolin Water Staff?

[popohim]

i cant kill the warrior construct...
would anyone plz suggest a route for me to get him?
( got my accursed staff and protection staff tho)
tahnks in advace

[toric brightblade]

guys come on..can somebody please tell me and Z how to get silver to target the boss??

[king_robin]

Geee I thought that Sins was so FRAGILE and WEAK BUT WOW?!?!?!?!?!? ZOMG WTF BBQ OMG. /bow. Shadow Farm + Sliver armor = GG
To bad that I deleted my Assasin..... =(

[Tingi]

This build works great, I kill everthorn pretty much every time :D. still havn't got his daggers yet though grrrr ><

[jtchans]

guys come on..can somebody please tell me and Z how to get silver to target the boss??

Look through the thread.

[Ghost_shadow]

yes i kill the necro, warrior, mesmer, and monk with the same setup and on the same run. i die pretty often but i never rezone until i kill em all. to worried about a wasted run before the drops diminish.
Would you mind posting a ss of your route and what skills your using besides the main ones?

[pegasux]

e/a

shadow form
dash
deaths charge
dark escape
glyph of ele power
sliver
crystal wave
obsidian flame

kill the monk boss
kill mesmer boss then run back up the ramp towards the necro boss
kill the necro boss then run back out the entrance and up the ramp
*run past the group infront of the warrior and hide in the cormer till shadow form recharges
now wait for a good grouping with the warrior then eaths charge into him. he's never the first to die for me BUT if you wait for the patrol to go into his group then the extra dmg will take him out pretty quick still.

[johanL]

i don't understand this build lol

my shadow form only lasts 25 seconds (thx to kephket) and my silver armor around 17 seconds..now the problem is i can't recast it after it runs out..so basically you only have 25 seconds to kill that boss and then you die because shadow when shadow form runs out i get 240 dmg..and ain't got the possibillity to run away.
if you are even lucky enough when silver armor triggers the boss..
for example:

i run up to sunreach, cast shadow form..use death charge to "travel" to him..i cast glyph + silver armor and then Rust for his healing signet.
but silver amror doesn't trigger him most of the times..it triggers the other foes...and then 3 seconds on sunreach himself...at that point shadow form and silver armor are still recharging for 20 seconds..it ain't possible to kill him then.

if i am correct this build is nothing but a kamikaze action....with only 1/10 runs to actually kill the boss. not really wurth its time if this is the case.

can someone please give some clear instructions..because the movie doesn't show everything imo.


kind regards

[dr1zz one]

once you kill a boss, all skills recharge and you can recast Shadow Form, glyph and Silver Armor.

I use Shadow of Haste in a safe spot, then Shadow Form chain, and if it doesnt target the boss, you cancel out Shadow of Haste with Dark Escape which brings you back to that safe spot....regen back and repeat until the boss is targeted.

[Rah Balder]

if i am correct this build is nothing but a kamikaze action....with only 1/10 runs to actually kill the boss. not really wurth its time if this is the case.


That's why you bring Shadow of Haste. As a sort of Life Insurance. So you wont die.

It was ages ago since the last time i died with this build it just needs a bit of Practise, like to know wich groups to aggro and where your ''safe spot'' is. Just play with it and you will get the hang of it. Dont say its a waste of time when you dont know how it works :confused:

[johanL]

ok, sorry that i said it is a waste of time...
just wasn't clear what skills to use..didn't see in the video that he was using the shadow of haste skill so i clearly misunderstood the build.
the way i used it looked more on a "hit and run" build :D :ninja:

ill try it later again..
thx for the info

[Evilsod]

Well sunreach does have a 'Thou shalt not flee' stamp on his head. None Shall Pass is a biatch.

Theres just 1 problem with that build Pegasux... Shiro'ken Elementalists. If it doesn't target your boss soon enough the afflicted explosions dig in and the 9second burnings REALLY dig in. Shadow Refuge is really a vital skill or its just not secure enough.

[Desires]

ok, sorry that i said it is a waste of time...
just wasn't clear what skills to use..didn't see in the video that he was using the shadow of haste skill so i clearly misunderstood the build.
the way i used it looked more on a "hit and run" build :D :ninja:

ill try it later again..
thx for the info

Well if you get skilled with it this build offers fast runs with high sucess rate. I rarely run this build anymore but i had over 90% sucess rate of killing sunreach. Scareaters so easy I don't think you can possibly mess it up and some others have mixed rates(though once you figure out each area theres ways to slove them such as bodyblocking certain enimies with higher priorty target in ways they won't triger. And lets say you have a hard time at sunreach and only get him half the time thats still faster then group farming him.

[zadinos]

I hear many ppl killing sunreach here. Can i get any advice on this one. For me silver armor with 16 dmg is not enough to kill him. I have no probs to come to him but even with rust i can´t kill him not enough dmg , this is my skill setup.
Any advice are welcome.

shadow form (e)
silver armor
glymph
afterchock
tenais cristalls
shadow of haste
dark escape
Rust

[nani80]

You have to know how and when to use SOH. Dont use it, if you have to aggro, because foes wont follow you (you are 15% faster with SOH). You have to find safe spot and wait until there is enough foes near boss then attack.

[Calvein]

It's me or there is more Fungal Wallow near Sunreach now ?

[pegasux]

Well sunreach does have a 'Thou shalt not flee' stamp on his head. None Shall Pass is a biatch.

Theres just 1 problem with that build Pegasux... Shiro'ken Elementalists. If it doesn't target your boss soon enough the afflicted explosions dig in and the 9second burnings REALLY dig in. Shadow Refuge is really a vital skill or its just not secure enough.

Yeah the elementalist are a pain in the butt at times and ARE my biggest concern. But fortunately this build can still farm the 4 bosses mentioned. I do die at least 1 time per run <intentionally at necro construct to group them all together for a fast kill> and at times even up to 5 times but the DP isn't that much of a bother to me. The main problem is if there are 2 eles in the mob. That's when i deaths charge to one and kill it and die myself but I can then come back and get the boss afterwards. Shadow refuge is a good idea but I find that the combo of tenai's and crystal are essential in killing the foes that tend to get targeted before the boss...especially the wallows with sunreach =(.

[pegasux]

It's me or there is more Fungal Wallow near Sunreach now ?

nah same amount...just the 4 broken into 2 groups. just killed him again and no shield...lol. thought a 2 day cool off period was enough but i guess not.

[Calvein]

Oh, ok. There was always 2 Fungal on me and now the all came >_<

[Khz]

what skills are you using when you are fighting sunreach ? i cant read it from video :o

[dejsav]

what skills are you using when you are fighting sunreach ? i cant read it from video :o rust and shock + default A/E

[Hakuin]

for sunreach, i am having problems with the damage output... i cannot kill him with all the wardens of the spirit constantly healing him. once i use my shock -> aftershock combo, his health regen is gone, but he still wont die... any tips?

[Desires]

for sunreach, i am having problems with the damage output... i cannot kill him with all the wardens of the spirit constantly healing him. once i use my shock -> aftershock combo, his health regen is gone, but he still wont die... any tips?

Don't shock him. You want him to use healing sig as rust will extend his time in it causing him to take double damage per hit.

[Khz]

rust and shock + default A/Ei mean spell right to the rust , 5. spell

[dejsav]

i mean spell right to the rust , 5. spell 1 Shadown form (E)
2 Glyph of Elemental Power
3 Sliver Armor
4 Shock
5 Rust
6 Death Charge
7 Dark escape
8 Dash

[pegasux]

for sunreach i don't use dark escape or shock...i use crystal wave and tenais crystal. the 212 dmg from thos 2 will kill the 2 fungals that are always there and sunreach also.

[Khz]

dejsav: omg look at video ,when is desire fighting whit guy that drops sunreach shield he is not using shock :confused:

[zhak]

with only sliver armor i cant do enough dps to kill the bosses..at least in shadow form up time..what am i doin wrong?for example..sskai or geofer

[Bob Aeclucen]

For sliver armor to work efficiently, you need a huge mob to hit you at the same time. Sskai doesn't have a huge mob around him, just 5 or 6 warriors and archers, and Geoffer might be doable if you aggro all of the outkasts outside of Zos Shivros Channel.

[Rah Balder]

with only sliver armor i cant do enough dps to kill the bosses..at least in shadow form up time..what am i doin wrong?for example..sskai or geoferI'm confused. Why go after those 2 overfarmed nubs with this build? :confused:

[Desires]

I'm confused. Why go after those 2 overfarmed nubs with this build? :confused:

That and I'm fairly sure the death hands have chillbanes which=gg

[Evilsod]

That and I'm fairly sure the death hands have chillbanes which=gg

Don't the assassins have Dark Apostasy too?

Besides you can kill Geoffer with 2 skills and 16 tactics once you've let his group die to the Naga. Dunno if 12 tactics and 2ndary W would do it.

[Desires]

Don't the assassins have Dark Apostasy too?

Besides you can kill Geoffer with 2 skills and 16 tactics once you've let his group die to the Naga. Dunno if 12 tactics and 2ndary W would do it.

DA removes on critical hits. Shadow for makes all attacks miss ;p

[Tempo]

So im not sure if we're here to discuss this build at all, but i was wondering why you wouldnt use kinetic armor?

That aside this build looks really cool

[Duncan Idaho]

Jane Forestlight is farmable, provding you get extra damage spells (obsi flame ie)

Kinetic armor would not be of any use since sliver armor lasts shorter than SF.

Hard to have Sunreach be the first to be targeted by SA. But there seems to be some kind of priority in targets : spirits are ALWAYS targeted first (when farming Jayne), as well as Rt mobs. Monks tend to be targeted first too when there are no spirits or Rt in range (ie Jayne and the scar eater)

[Duncan Idaho]

Jane Forestlight is farmable, provding you get extra damage spells (obsi flame ie)

[Evilsod]

DA removes on critical hits. Shadow for makes all attacks miss ;p

/doh

Why use Kinetic Armour to boost AL when nothing can actually hit you?

I had no trouble farming Jayne using Shock/Gale/Aftershock...

[Rah Balder]

Shock/Gale works better on Monk bosses. Do i hav to say why? :p

[AcidDog]

For me the key when farming Sunreach is actually Falaharn...

mull that over for a bit.

[Calvein]

I'll make a video of Sunreach when I'll have my PC :d

[Silvergun Superman]

This build is awesome. So far I've been practicing about 3hrs now and I finally got the hang of it. SOH is a life saver! I killed Sunreach a few times so far but no shield drop yet. Here's my setup:

Earth - 12
Water - 3
Shadow Arts - 16

1 Shadow Form
2 Glyph of Elemental Power
3 Silver Armor
4 Rust
5 Crystal Wave
6 Death's Charge
7 Dark escape
8 Shadow of Haste

Thanks Desires

[Gor Peace]

Guys...you must forgive me, but I haven't checked all threads so I don't know if you already talk about this subject.

I was wondering if this build works as a runner.


One more thing. Tell me if I am correct:

- Traps & Knockdown's are the obstacles of this build right?

[jtchans]

This build is awesome. So far I've been practicing about 3hrs now and I finally got the hang of it. SOH is a life saver! I killed Sunreach a few times so far but no shield drop yet. Here's my setup:

Earth - 12
Water - 3
Shadow Arts - 16

1 Shadow Form
2 Glyph of Elemental Power
3 Silver Armor
4 Rust
5 Crystal Wave
6 Death's Charge
7 Dark escape
8 Shadow of Haste

Thanks Desires

Thats what I run and it works great if you cant kill sunreach activate Dark Escape and shadowstep back to a safe spot and try again.

[Evilsod]

Guys...you must forgive me, but I haven't checked all threads so I don't know if you already talk about this subject.

I was wondering if this build works as a runner.


One more thing. Tell me if I am correct:

- Traps & Knockdown's are the obstacles of this build right?

No this build doesn't work as a runner.

A/Me echo Shadow Form does though. I ran myself to Droknars as an A/W w/ Charge then around the rest of the Southern Shiverpeaks as an A/Me, the only part that makes me insult my monitor are the f***ing Azure Shadows and there f***ing Signet of f***ing Judgement! Luckily if you survive to the end of the groups Illusion of Weakness normally saves your ass when Shadow Form runs out if you have Dark Escape up.

I don't see the need for Shadow of Haste as an A/E in the majority of groups. Most bosses you can either kill or have enough time left on Shadow Form to just run off using Dark Escape. Its only bosses like Sunreach and Warrior Construct that you have pretty much 0 chance of escape. As E/A though Shadow of Haste is awesome... was giving Kaolins a go earlier and its great to be able to attempt bosses then suddenly vanish and appear in safety way back since the length Shadow and Sliver ar so similar.

[DreadZero]

Ummm how do you actually get down to the constructs? The Am fah always kill me. They usually follow me, place degen on me, and use vampiric skills on me (barbed signent) and end up killing me before i get passed the first group...

[feelthafire]

use shadow refuge then dc on a enemy then run with dash and dark escape till they dont follow u

[D Fault]

Either dark escape past the am fah being careful not to set off spike traps, regen and continue or you can lure them into the 1st afflicted group.

[Silvergun Superman]

Yes! Finally the shield dropped for me. After like so many runs :eek:

[Gor Peace]

Guys. Everything seems to work with my elementalist. I got the right skills and the right equipment but...I'm still pissed with this sliver armor...

When I dc to Necro Construct sliver armor hits him for a while but when the afflicted warriors and rangers get close to me the sliver armor damage stop hitting the Construct and hit another monsters arround.

I've read a thread on this post (somewhere) that 1 guy was saying that sliver armor triggers in diagonal direction. I was wonder if you can tell me if this is true, how it works and if there is any solution to trigger sliver armor only for bosses.

:ninja:

[shmek]

Ha, this is so gonna drop Sunreach prices.Only if people are morons.. which usually they are when items come easily to them :(

[Silvergun Superman]

Thats what I run and it works great if you cant kill sunreach activate Dark Escape and shadowstep back to a safe spot and try again.

Yeah, exactly. In two days, I've gotten 4 shields, not bad. I also use this build to farm Scar Eater except I bring Shadow Refuge instead of Rust. I aggro all the groups close and shadow step to him, he's dead in no time; less than 30secs.

[Sainor]

MB some1 would post a list of bosses farmable with this bild?
PS. Tried on Ssesk - got 2 Woe Spreaders.

[ph0bolus]

can kill shreader with this build...but i think his daggers are unwanted..

[dr_k]

thanks for that build, my ele loves it :)

so far she killed 7 bosses and she can't wait to get her hands on constructs ;) btw: after what mission/quest opens the gate to the constructs? closed gates are the true evil of factions...

and that's her
http://doktorka.ffvse.cz/newz/GW/eriel_sin.html

[SluggyTheZealot]

Construct assassinating with this is a lot of fun. Nice build desires, you're so e-famous now :cool:

[Gor Peace]

Hello again guys,

I'm still waiting for an answer to my question about sliver armor. Read my message above.

One more thing:

what do you guys think it's the best armor combination for this farm? I am thinking in kurzick armor (nice look :D ), but I've noticed that the armor set named 'infiltrator's armor', which have the following bonus - +15 Armor (vs. Piercing damage ), Reduces Crippled duration on you by 20% - has no longer the 'Reduces Poison duration on you by 20%'.

All this blablabla to say that wiki is not updated, look by yourself:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Assassin_armor


Was this nerfed? Anyway...I was thinking in the 'Infiltrator's Armor' to prevent any trouble with traps...but once you got crippled by one it's better to restart the run...

So do you guys agree with me that 'Infiltrator' it's useless for this farm?

Hmmm....since the energy bonus from the sword/totem axe and the earth focus/galigord's stone scroll is enough (I assume it's enough, even with shock causing you exaustion), 'Shrouded Armor' is also useless...

Then...it seems to me the best option to buy 'Valkyrie's Armor' which gives +35 health. Maybe it can helps against a wicked degen caused by elementalists constructs...but probably, it won't be enough. So...

All crappy armors? :p

[Bloodied Blade]

...you really have no idea whatsoever what Shadow Form does, do you?

Watch the vid and tell me if you see him get hit. Then decide if armor is important.

Shadow Form makes all attacks against you miss and all spells fail.

[Gor Peace]

oh dear...I'm not stupid. I can read you know?

'For 5...17 seconds, all hostile Spells that target you fail and all attacks against you miss. When Shadow Form ends, lose all but 5...41 Health. '

Oh! Amazing...I can read -.-


Dude ofc I knew that. I know it works with any armor...even naked, but I like to cast Shadow Form when already aggroed the mobs. I always let my life drop to 150/200hp, then I cast it [not if any interrupters, mesmers etc.]. I'm sure that +35 hp could do 1 second difference...depends where you are farming I guess. 35 hp would take 0,5 seconds to disappear from my health bar in constructs farm and since afflicted mesmers can interrupt me, maybe isn't too smart to tank before cast Shadow Form.

Apologies if my english it's not easy to understand.

[Bloodied Blade]

If you're casting after aggroing then I would go for +hp, since the other damage reductions are all highly situational. Constructs are going to kill you regardless of what you're wearing if shadow form isn't up...Contruct + mob just hits that hard. Your best option is to just shadow form and find a way to make it work. On most of them you just keep going until they eventually die. I usually die once on the necro and then can kill him and get out alive (first time SF/sliver armor usually ends before he dies, 2nd time the mob is HUGE and it's easy).

[Evilsod]

There is no reason at all to cast once you've started agro if your an assassin. Shadow Form lasts that fricking long the extra second you've gained (and 200 health you've lost) isn't profitable at all. Interrupts can surprise you... specially from Shiro'ken Necromancers, not to mention that you might get a Kitahs Burden on you. Its easier to just cast beforehand, even if you do check the spawns. If your down to 35 health your gonna die anyway, if you have more energy, you'll be thankful if you start getting DP.

Not like it matters... this farm is more efficient as an E/A using Shadow of Haste. More energy and more damage and if you really want +health armour then it doesn't matter in the slightest on your ele.

Dark Escape seems very inferior now. SoH can be used as a running skill much better since when you renew it you don't return to your original location (which i think is a bug tbh). Or you can simply use it to break agro once you get through then cancel it with Dash and walk off once they return to normal.

I'm not entirely sure what Elementalists Construct you've been fighting... the one i've fought has no method of Degen at all. It does have 2 skills that bypass Sliver Armour... but its not worth the effort imo. Shiro'ken Elementalists have plenty of degen (9 second burning ftl) but if your down to 35 health... again... your pretty much screwed anyway.

[darknesstears]

Anyone here know where the collector for a +30 health +1 earth magic 20% is?
thx :)

[dr_k]

there are two collectors for this focus actually

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Plague_Idol
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Stone_Horn

plague idols are however a lot easier to collect ;)

[Desires]

Well I still just use my refuge ;p. But anyways I may be posting a new video eventualy not as much into farming with this as before but been recording a few recent runs to some of the other places and might exand on things like sunreach in it due to the pms I'm still getting... We'll see starting classes and stuff this week so may be a little while.

[darknesstears]

After few tries at sunreach i noticed that my sliver armor never targets him :(
am i doing something wrong? :confused:
Also Song of the mists is killing me during kaolin farm :s
i need help lol

[Khz]

Where can i find that warrior boss that is at the end of video (not sunreach) and what does he drop ? thanks

[ectospasm]

this build is totally pathetic for an E/A
maybe its better for an A/E but so far its useless to me.

i fought maybe 4 bosses and they almost died, maybe 1/4 health left by the time shadow form ended & silver armor. only boss i killed was konru tainted stone. he didnt drop a green.

i have just the opposite. 16 earth & 12 arts. with a millus's pillar & razazans fervor+ a 25nrg scroll. 106dmg with tenais crystals & aftershock is 105 +76 kd dmg. plus ive used shock, etc. nadda. sux...

i shadow step in. hit sf, glyph, silv armor. aftershock, crystals. still isnt enough to kill the bosses. by the time i go thru this process SF & SA are running out. its a nice concept but really, it sucks. even with the 20% enchant its still not enough time to do anything significant. id like to try it with an assassin to see if the few extra seconds are significant. but i doubt it, cause with 12 earth its not enough damage output and i have 16 in earth as an ele. it should take down any boss with as much damage as im dealing. i give up. back to the old methods.

[Vass]

Maybe your problem is that you're shadow stepping in, ectoplasm. I've tried it as well but I usually end up losing a pack of bad guys that would otherwise be following me in when I get to the whatever boss I'm targetting, which means less damage from sliver.

I love this build. As an A/E with 16 SA 12 earth I've made about 150k in 3 days, farming maybe 2 hours aday, with it. In the optional slots I use obsidian flame, aftershock, and shadow refuge. Equipment is my pair of shocking +5e oni daggers of enchanting. Works very well. If you get sliver to target the boss, its as good as dead 90% of the time.

[zadinos]

When im fighting Sunre