Rt/me Smite Crawler Solo

[Dahnel]

"Dahnel and all of SMS are not responsible for financial losses.:ninja: " - Racthoh

You can download a video of this run Here (http://files.filefront.com/smiteswmv/;5427207;;/fileinfo.html)

Note: If you have never used the Vengeful Ritualist build before i suggest reading my thread on that to get the basics - http://38.99.233.252/forum/showthread.php?t=3033748

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Setup
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Skills:
Vengeful Was Khanhei [E]
Arcane Echo
Ancestors Visage
Sympathetic Visage
Vengeful Weapon
Illusion Of Haste
Physical Resistance
Soothing Memories

Attributes:
Illusion Magic 10
Inspiration Magic 8
Restoration Magic 16 (12 +3 +1)

Equipment:
For armor i use the +10 AL whilst holding an item set since you'll be holding the Khanhei ashes most the time (well, whilst in actual combat), as for weapons a Flame Spitter of Enchanting (20% is desirable) and the 20/20 restoration focus from Vasburg Armory.
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The Run
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Start of by running forward and taking the quest "clearing the chamber" from the ghost directly infront of you as you enter, making sure you dont agro the wandering Aatxes close by. This should spawn some Grasping Darkness groups that patrol close to the steps of the starting area. The idea is to pull the Graspings alone and kill them, however its somewhat impossible to pull them without the Aatxes, so instead we take advantage of their inherent boost in movement speed.

When a group of Graspings comes close to the steps throw up one of your visages then illusion of haste and agro the group, run back into the starting area to break off any Aatxes that might be chasing (since they move so slow they give up easily). Ok now you should have a single group of Graspings pounding on you, however DO NOT attempt to cast anything for a few seconds...just let visage work its magic for about 3-4 seconds, then echo and khanhei, remembering to keep a visage up at all times. Graspings go down fairly easy if you keep that visage up.

After pulling the 2 groups at the starting area, there should be a single group remaining on the right (they get stuck behind the aatxe on the steps alot). This part can be tricky, as you have to Illusion of haste up the right set of stairs, past the 2 stationary Aatxes and get as far right as possible to the little safe spot (the doors that lead to the smite crawlers) be careful here as the 2 stationary Aatxes have a habbit of pinning you against the wall if you are'nt quick enough. From here do the same again to pull the last group of Graspings and kill them, this should open all the doors in the starting area.

From here its plain sailing, simply wait for the group of Graspings patrolling behind the now unlocked door to go away up onto the bridge, then IoH round the corner left to the smite Crawlers. The Crawlers themselves are very easy to take down, same method as vermin, however i would'nt advise taking on mixed groups of smites and coldfires, you CAN kill coldfires with this build but they are harder and not worth the time in my opinion, and should be left as a challenge once you have cleared the smites out.

Once you get used to pulling the Grasping Darknesses at the begining this run becomes very fast (as smites go down so quickly, and you can tank alot of them) and has already proved its worth to me.

[Shadow-Hunter]

Nice ^^ Is downloading the video now.. Do you think this can be done with a Me/Rt? Cus im out of Char slots to make a Rit x.x

~Shadow

[Dahnel]

Nice ^^ Is downloading the video now.. Do you think this can be done with a Me/Rt? Cus im out of Char slots to make a Rit x.x

~Shadow

Most likely but i'm sure the 55 me/mo is a better option for a mesmer ?

[Shadow-Hunter]

I guess it is.. But then again, my 55/SS necro would be better than the mesmer.. =x .. The thing is that i farm alot... So using Different builds/places is pretty much a must so it dont get too borring =D

~Shadow

[Arkantos]

"Dahnel and all of SMS are not responsible for financial losses.:ninja: " - Racthoh

I hope you put that in because of me, or else im going to eat 5L of ice cream tonight :(

gg on the build though, now I dont have to waste time making a monk to solo crawlers :D

PS: Is this build able to solo anything else in the UW?

[lambda the great]

Nice job, now I finally get to use my rit for something fun!(Cantha and tyria got too easy/boring) so nice. gj.

[Dahnel]

I hope you put that in because of me, or else im going to eat 5L of ice cream tonight :(

gg on the build though, now I dont have to waste time making a monk to solo crawlers :D

ok it was for you :ninja: , still not getting the 1k back

[Arkantos]

ok it was for you :ninja: , still not getting the 1k back

Thats fine, this build is worth more then 1k :D I hope you know I was jp though.. ;) :ninja:

Graspings are annoying as hell :( Farthest Ive made it so far are to the doors of the labrynth, but I died....bad timing I guess.

[shinslw]

Was good, it's abit better and faster more safer than my Rt/R for solo uw. WIll be using this build from now. Thx for sharing :)

[Lil Macabre]

Yeah this build is very nice, works great as long as the aatxe cooperate with you. Nightmares can still be a damn nightmare though. Had them remove SV a couple times, thus, the graspings pwnd my energy. That = dead.

Once throught the fat bulls, your golden as long as you know your way around UW.

500 purple chests to 3 gold tho :( Not so good.

[Dahnel]

Is this build able to solo anything else in the UW?

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/37/coldfiresownedvn5.jpg

you CAN kill coldfires with this build but they are harder and not worth the time in my opinion

[Genetic]

Well, the way I usually take down casters (the coldfires) as a rit is by standing next to them, while melee monsters (the smites) pound on me. The constant sv/av keeps their energy at 0 for a while, forcing them to attack. Haven't tried this in UW yet though.

GL

[Grasping Darkness]

can i get a soundtrack listing on the vid?
i use a similar build when i wanna pound aspenwood for a few rounds

[Dahnel]

can i get a soundtrack listing on the vid?

knew i left something off the video..

1. Taskforce - The Low Down Showdown
2. Kashmere Feat. Iron Brydz - Divine Communication
3. Kyza - Fight Klub
4. Kashmere - Spawn Of Pazazu

[Arkantos]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/37/coldfiresownedvn5.jpg

I meant enemies in different area's other then the ice wastes. [twin serpant mountains for example]

[Shadow-Hunter]

i can allready say that i dont think Twin Mountains is possible.. Their Healing spring will outdmg VwK dmg.. And since you are holding the Ashes then you cant wand interupt it.. There wont be much other you can attemp as there is alot of Aatxe blocking the way to the other place.. (the Place with Wrathful spirits quest, cant remember name =.=)

~Shadow

[lambda the great]

I would say it MIGHT be possible to do some of the twin serpants...switch your Soothing memories(8th skill I think) for Cry of Frustration and maybe

[Racthoh]

i can allready say that i dont think Twin Mountains is possible.. Their Healing spring will outdmg VwK dmg.. And since you are holding the Ashes then you cant wand interupt it.. There wont be much other you can attemp as there is alot of Aatxe blocking the way to the other place.. (the Place with Wrathful spirits quest, cant remember name =.=)

~Shadow

From what I've seen, enemies won't use traps if you're standing next to them. But that means you'll have to activate all of their traps just to get in that position.

[lambda the great]

Obsidian Benemoths(sp) Use them no matter what, even if you right next to them.

[XvArchonvX]

Very nice contribution. Tyvm for the guide and vid!

[Dahnel]

From what I've seen, enemies won't use traps if you're standing next to them. But that means you'll have to activate all of their traps just to get in that position.

And the aatxes patrol way to close to do much around there

[osk]

Nice build IMO. tyvm for the vid, can't do the run without Alt+Tab n watch carefully on the vid ^^
imho, It's not easy to pull off yet it's still the easiet UW solo out there.

3 out of 5 runs, i've got bad spwn. eg. grasping stuck with aatxe, weird aatxe patrol went overboard into 'safe zone',& stationary + weird patroling coldfires. I guess Anet hates me. ^^

[antoninus]

niiiice. it was cool watching the video, truly the rit can take out enemies like no other profession can. Ritualist solo smites ftw. i have yet to try this tho :) /waitsforfavor

[Xaero Gouki Kriegor]

This looks like one of the most effecient solo uw builds ive seen yet, as usuall, a Scars Meadows member posts it :P

[Arkantos]

Made it to the smites today, they go down fast. :ninja: Build works great, just got my first ecto :D

[Dahnel]

Made it to the smites today, they go down fast. :ninja: Build works great, just got my first ecto :D

:D call off the debt ? :ninja:

[Arkantos]

:D call off the debt ? :ninja:

Yeah :ninja: I'm probably gonna waste the 6k I got hehe. I'm still not 100% at getting to the smites.

[Dahnel]

Yeah :ninja: I'm probably gonna waste the 6k I got hehe. I'm still not 100% at getting to the smites.

Even Racthoh dies.

[Arkantos]

Even Racthoh dies.

No way :eek: Racthoh is like teh 1337z0r of farming. ;)

PS: Another ecto :D
PPS: 2 Ecto this run, but we lost favour :(

[Lelle Adivo]

No way :eek: Racthoh is like teh 1337z0r of farming. ;)

darn straight

[Dahnel]

No way :eek: Racthoh is like teh 1337z0r of farming. ;)

Pff i have the pictures ...

[Arkantos]

Wow....it's frickin hard to get to smites. I always make it out of the doors, but an aatxe always hits me for 500+ :(

[ZomgZergRush]

Heh, we finally got favor and I went out on my first run. Now im sitting here wondering what to do, maybe somebody can help me?

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/491/gw388du5.jpg

I tried pulling it but it only made both of them come closer. I'm still down there, so help would be appreciated :ninja:

[Arkantos]

Put on a visage, then put on IoH. Aggro the grasping, then run back to the door. Once the aatxe is off your behind, move up abit from the door and kill.

[ZomgZergRush]

Put on a visage, then put on IoH. Aggro the grasping, then run back to the door. Once the aatxe is off your behind, move up abit from the door and kill.

Eh, its stuck, if i aggro it I'll aggro the Aataxe too. Its worth a shot though.

Edit: It didn't work :D

Edit2: Ugh, I can never get that last grasping. Is it always stuck there or am I having bad luck?

[nehemah]

Very thx a lot for this great build

Now i can make my ritualiste fow armore with this :)

Work so good !

Thx a lot so great job !

[Arkantos]

Edit2: Ugh, I can never get that last grasping. Is it always stuck there or am I having bad luck?

It's not always stuck there. Sometimes when that group spawns it gets stucl behind the aatxe on the stairs, and sometimes it'll go to the main stairs.

[Dahnel]

It's not always stuck there. Sometimes when that group spawns it gets stucl behind the aatxe on the stairs, and sometimes it'll go to the main stairs.

I prefer it to get stuck actually since you can run right to the doors then recharge without having to go immediatly from the starting area, round to the right and then into a battle with the graspings straight away.

As for pulling the last Grasping Darkness do as Arkantos says with the Visage and IoH , then actually walk into agro range of the Grasping & Aatxe (if you wand them or bow them you are'nt leaving alot of room for running, i find).

[Arkantos]

I prefer it to get stuck actually since you can run right to the doors then recharge without having to go immediatly from the starting area, round to the right and then into a battle with the graspings straight away.

I prefer the group to get to the stairs :D Kill that group, wait for the other groups to get close together, aggro both, kill. Then I run to the door, wait for the graspings to get out of the way, run, and usually get killed by aatxes :p

[e_than]

I wasted 4k tonight and still haven't gotten out of the first room, but it's getting much better/easier.
Amazing build, made me re-realize why I love the ritualist so much! :D

[sadhik]

Very nice job but can you re-upload the video please ?


Sorry bad browser :/ i download now :)

[karunpav]

Why oh why did I delete my Ritualist? >_<

[Zerimar]

http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/z/Zerimar/41562/yubwpjushc.jpg

Taking on groups is fun:D
Thank you for showing us the light of UW soloing.
Easily made 7k in 2 hrs, not counting the 3 ecto drops i got.
To anyone that was having problems with the last group of grasps behind the aataxe on stairs; Once you get to the safe spot, go over to the wall on left side of stairs, throw on visage and IoH, aggro and run back to safe spot. Happened to me several times but this way worked out.

I still am unable to kill the Coldfires.:(

[Dahnel]

That just reminded me of this pic i took :P

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1417/blehkg0.jpg

[Shadow-Hunter]

Yea this build is truely amazing .. Hardest part of the run is getting them Grasping to die.. But when you get to the smiters then you can pull it off really easy.. Highest number of smiters i killed in one time was 13 =x And its like easyer than it is to just tank em with a 55 monk >_<

EDIT: Btw i use Channeling instead of Vengeful weapon.. I dont find the small dmg better than the Energy gain you can get from Channeling

~Shadow

[Nathan the Skank]

I was in shing jie monestary(sp) and I noticed an alarming number of rt/mes running around. Looks like you have some fans.

[Dahnel]

I was in shing jie monestary(sp) and I noticed an alarming number of rt/mes running around. Looks like you have some fans.

ah yes all goes as planed , the revolution is soon to come muhahah...MUHAHAHA ...ahem uh uh ..er did i say that out loud ?

[Arkantos]

EDIT: Btw i use Channeling instead of Vengeful weapon.. I dont find the small dmg better than the Energy gain you can get from Channeling

But energy management is not a problem, and vengeful is great for running from the labrynth > ice wastes.

[Sorafolktale]

Hi, well i started doing solo farm with my rt some days ago and was able to solo at many places :

* Vermin farm ;
* Warden farm;
* Solo at Nahpui Quarter;
* Trolls at Droknars;
* Avicaras outside Droknars;
* Thundra giants;
* UW as above in this thread;
* Graws;
* Ettins on cantha;
* Kirins and Overgrowth outside Maatu keep;

I'm still searching for another places to farm solo with her.
Heres a SS on UW:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/285/gw718vh1.jpg

Ps: last time i almost killed 2 colds.. they dropped to 15% hp .. ill still try again.

[Dahnel]

For coldfires run in and agro, i dont recommend more than 3 at once and uh dont throw up physical resistance ><, let them use up their maelstroms and move (usually slowly) backwards out of them ... then echo + khanhei whilst spamming vengeful weapon. when 3 khanhei's are up spam vengeful weapon and soothing memories until khanhei is recharged ...repeate until dead (remember to tab through them to see when they are casting maelstrom, then move out of its way :P)

[Sorafolktale]

hehe i almost killed then without using shooting memories.
If u see my skill bar ull note i use channeling instead shooting memories, thats why it was hard to kill then without shooting, still i was almost there.

[Osi Ri S]

got to the last part of the smite run then planned on killing one cold patrol... well then of course another patrol came out of nowhere and i had 6 on me. wasnt pretty after that >.<

[Zerimar]

Honestly, i dont find energy a problem. Of course, though, im using the +energy armor.

PR before i get to them, aggro, then visage, echo, and Vwk. Really havent used vengful weapon at all though, except to take out the drkness when they pop up.

Quote: Originally Posted by Dahnel Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan the Skank
I was in shing jie monestary(sp) and I noticed an alarming number of rt/mes running around. Looks like you have some fans.


ah yes all goes as planed , the revolution is soon to come muhahah...MUHAHAHA ...ahem uh uh ..er did i say that out loud ?
Lead on O' Fearless leader. Let the Rit Revolution Commence!:evil:

[ilk]

I switched soothing to Generous was Tsungrai and it works perfectly...i can clear out uw of coldfires without problem

[Avarre]

ah yes all goes as planed , the revolution is soon to come muhahah...MUHAHAHA ...ahem uh uh ..er did i say that out loud ?

Your fans won't survive the IW attacks of MY fans, which do not trigger vengeful! :D

[Arkantos]

Your fans won't survive the IW attacks of MY fans, which do not trigger vengeful! :D

Pwnt. lol

[Dahnel]

Your fans won't survive the IW attacks of MY fans, which do not trigger vengeful! :D

Then we shall destroy you with annoying questions HA HA , questions already answered in your guide muhahahaha ....wait thats quite possibly TO evil...

[Avarre]

Won't work, why do you think I made my solo build super simple ;)

Plus all you'll succeed at doing by asking me things is boost my ego.

[Shadow-Hunter]

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5214/gw027ij4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:ninja:

Edit, i think this was a one trick monkey.. The mesmers allways interupt VwK now.. Pic was taken first time i tryed.. And cant seem to get it to work again >_<

Edit2:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4677/gw030qv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

cough :P

~Shadow

[Avarre]

Were you just aggroing the mesmers, or have you tried triggering them with a longbow and then moving back? Usually ranged casters won't do anything if they're beyond spell range, as their wand range is oddly long.

If that works, they shouldn't use interrupts at all.

[Shadow-Hunter]

Hmm.. Gotta try that.. I just ran in and Body aggroed em.. If it do work it could be alot better becouse it aint really easy with interupts and E surges that drain energy x.x..

Edit: It seems that they move into spellcast range, even tho they was at higher ground than me.. Also even if it works it would be impossible to get past the Dyders and Dream riders anyway..

Edit2: Whats the Max Number of smiters any1 has soloed in one Group so far with this build ^^ ?
Mine is 13..
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/765/gw032xv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
>_>

~Shadow

[Sorafolktale]

ill try on Tombs later..
For now.. i killed a group of 3 colds last night, and i wasnt using shooting memories :D .
Ow ! and was a good nite: 6 ectos and 6 gold itens, including a gold fellblade with +30h mod ^^.

[Xaero Gouki Kriegor]

Edit2: Whats the Max Number of smiters any1 has soloed in one Group so far with this build ^^ ?
Mine is 13..


you sure you cant do more? or is that the most you can agro at a time? cus judging the build, it seems this build has the same limit of enemies to take as the 605 monk, unless im mistaken, but i havent tried the build yet

[Shadow-Hunter]

It can pretty much tank infinet number.. The problem is Aggroing them.. becouse You can only tank em for 30 sec, means you pretty much need to Cast A echo, Aggro in 20 sec and then cast VwK.. If you cast arcane echo after aggroing 10+ smiters, then there is a great chance they will rape you before you cast Echo + VwK..
And my New record is 14 :D

~Shadow

[Bolteh]

... I just tried 3 times.. First time was ok, spawns were where they should be, only I had a bit of bad luck at the second group when I pressed the wrong button.. Anyway, the 2 other tries: first -> 2 bullthingies behind the door, instantly aggroing me when the door opens, running fails because the bullthingy on the stairs aggros as well... Second -> the 2nd group of graspings spawned in the back, patrolling between the position where the first group was, and the position where the third group is.. Aggroing them to come to the startingarea fails because once they reach the stairs, they return..

Am I just having bad luck, or did they nerf this farm? :/


Edit: 7 runs (read 7k wasted): 1 good run, but RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up myself, 1 RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up aaxtes spawn, 5 RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up spawns of the 2nd group of graspings -_-

Also, the graspings keep interrupting me even if i let visage work its magic for 4-5 seconds.. The minute I start casting Arcane Echo -> interrupts.. With a bit of bad luck, they even interrupt my Vengeful was thing -_-

[wit777]

Also, the graspings keep interrupting me even if i let visage work its magic for 4-5 seconds.. The minute I start casting Arcane Echo -> interrupts.. With a bit of bad luck, they even interrupt my Vengeful was thing -_-
Are you sure you cast AV/SV on yourself not the guy you took quest from?
Typically, I don't have problem with graspings at all if the aggro went ok. Every now and then I made mistake casting AV/SV on the ghost or nightmare strips Illusion of Haste and SV.

[Shadow-Hunter]

This is indeed the best Solo UW build i have ever used..

18 Smiters Soloed in 30 sec from i start dmging em..

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3862/gw064kx7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So far i havent herd any1 do that better solo.. Only other char i can imagen take that many at 1 time is a Spirit bond Monk, But i dont think he can kill em in 30 sec.. o.o

And to the ones wondering if i died then:
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5851/gw065zy7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Ofc not ^^
No ectos tho =/

But i did beat my own personal Record.. :)

~Shadow

[Bolteh]

Are you sure you cast AV/SV on yourself not the guy you took quest from?
Typically, I don't have problem with graspings at all if the aggro went ok. Every now and then I made mistake casting AV/SV on the ghost or nightmare strips Illusion of Haste and SV.

Myes, those nightmares popup a lot and tend to **** up my run almost every time.. Even when I just go and take the quest, far far away from the aaxtes, one shows up and adds some aatxes that attack you no matetr what (even hasting away to some corner of the starting area doesn't work, they'll keep following you..)

Any way to counter these nightmares :/ I'm pretty sure they're the ones raping me all the time :(

[Zerimar]

Kinda hard to believe the nightmares are the ones raping you. Unless they rend echantments while your echo is up,screwing your 3vwk. I have never had problem with nightmares poping while i take the quest. What could be happening is your aggroing aatxe by mistake. Just wait for that one patrol to move all the way to the left side.

Have to aggre this is the best source of imcome. SHHH. Dont tell anyone else.;)

[osk]

first -> 2 bullthingies behind the door, instantly aggroing me when the door opens, running fails because the bullthingy on the stairs aggros as well...

I was having the same prob, gate opens aaxte charged at me :(
o well what i did was wait for those graspings to move down towards starting area, they r the first group i take usually , provided they're not stuck behind some aaxte.



Also, the graspings keep interrupting me even if i let visage work its magic for 4-5 seconds.. The minute I start casting Arcane Echo -> interrupts.. With a bit of bad luck, they even interrupt my Vengeful was thing -_-

remember this the first skill grasping use is ALWAYS distrcting blow.
even if u let visage for 4~5 secs, one grasping tht reaches u at the 6th seconds will still able to distracting blow you.
My advice: wait for EVERY graspings you've aggroed hit the first strike b4 casting arcane echo.

[Haggard]

From what I've seen, enemies won't use traps if you're standing next to them. But that means you'll have to activate all of their traps just to get in that position.Thats not always true. When I'm doing my 3 man forgemaster thing (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10021830) <--(yay free advert), and we're clearing the spider cave, the spiders will often use healing spring even with the Spirit Bond monk standing adjacent to them AND hacking at them with the totem axe. Which isn't the case for warrior solo of the cave. I think there's more maths than just enemy distances for whether enemies use traps.

On topic: Kickass build/idea, Ima thinking I'll give it a shot, when theres nobody on to HA with me ¬_¬

[cane abel]

i am noticing a definite decline in ecto drops the more i do this run. first completed run i got 3 ecto, 2nd run i got 1 and same on the third. all other runs i have completed after these 3 have yielded Absolutley no ecto......hmmmm....anyone else noticing this or am i just in a ecto slump?

[Dahnel]

Luck of the draw i guess ..i get 2 ecto a run on average, That said i only do it around once every couple of days

[Zerimar]

Yep, my ecto drops are fine. I get about 2-3 a run, but i only do this on weekends.

[nani80]

If anyone have a problem with coldfires, replace shooting Memories with Elemental Resistance its much easyer.

Thanks Dahnel for this fantastic build

[Shadow-Hunter]

With Some practise Coldfires should get fairly easy... I kill groups of 2 with just VwK, Aecho, Vengeful weapon.. Groups of 3 is a little harder cus i dont use Soothing Memorys.. But 2 coldfires go down easy with the above 3 skills + WASD out of malestorm..

~Shadow

[Bolteh]

Hmm, working quite well now, but still having problems taking the last group of graspings if one is stuck behind an aaxte at the bottom end of the stairs.. if I haste paste the 2 static aaxtes, the aaxte blocking the grasping charges at me and he keeps following since haste has stopped and there isn't enough room for me to run (to the gate)..

Anyone have an idea hwo to take that last grasping?

[Dahnel]

Hmm, working quite well now, but still having problems taking the last group of graspings if one is stuck behind an aaxte at the bottom end of the stairs.. if I haste paste the 2 static aaxtes, the aaxte blocking the grasping charges at me and he keeps following since haste has stopped and there isn't enough room for me to run (to the gate)..

Anyone have an idea hwo to take that last grasping?

Well.. You should be safe by the doors and still have enough room to kite away from the Aatxe on the step (the one usually blocking the last grasping) if you agro by walking into range instead of wanding (since this gives you more distance to run back to the door).

[iltasso]

thanks for the build!!!!!!!!!!

I did with my warr/mesmer

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7408/gw048lu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[osk]

I did with my warr/mesmer



wow war/mesmer.
did u fight the aaxte at the beginning or run pass them like all of us Rt do?

[iltasso]

wow war/mesmer.
did u fight the aaxte at the beginning or run pass them like all of us Rt do?

I run pass them but i think it can be done (kill aatxes) if i change sprint and glad with somethingelse, but imo this way is faster and without risk while if u fight the aatxes the run becomes slower and if something goes wrong...:(

[Xaero Gouki Kriegor]

thanks for the build!!!!!!!!!!

I did with my warr/mesmer

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7408/gw048lu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ROFL

GG, gg

maybe you could try some whirlwind, on your knees stuff, recharge glad few times

[Witte Was]

What about a Me/E :D

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7071/aatxeeb5.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aatxeeb5.jpg)

[Xaero Gouki Kriegor]

need to see some smiteage death there witte, mainly because smite killing is whole purpose of soloing uw, they the ones with the "better" drops, aatxes are more the less, "obstacles" imo, until then the rt/me can be considered the most effecient

[Deacon Roswell]

Hmm, working quite well now, but still having problems taking the last group of graspings if one is stuck behind an aaxte at the bottom end of the stairs.. if I haste paste the 2 static aaxtes, the aaxte blocking the grasping charges at me and he keeps following since haste has stopped and there isn't enough room for me to run (to the gate)..

Anyone have an idea hwo to take that last grasping?
What is your Illusion Magic set at? You should be able to run past the 2 static Aatxe's AND past the one on the stairs to the safe spot just as Dahnel did in the video. If you hug the wall and run right to the closed doors, nothing should be on you except a grasp if you agro it. I dropped my inspiration down to like a 3 since you don't need physical resistance up that long. Everything dies pretty fast. This should allow you to have Illusion up to 12 I think. Add a 20% longer enchants to your weapon and you'll be able to out run the Aatxe you're having problems with. This will also help if the doors open and you agro the 2 bulls. With 12 in Illusion, you could safely run back to the spawn point with no problems.

[slimejocke]

Are you sure the focus is at Vasburg Armory? I checked wiki and its not there on the list. Also if you could afford runes what runes would you use? Armor?

[Zerimar]

I checked wiki and its not there on the list. Also if you could afford runes what runes would you use? Armor?
Uh..sup restoration+minor restoration+hat is really all you need. And he says he uses the +armor while holding item, but have the +energy and i can solo just fine.

What is your Illusion Magic set at? You should be able to run past the 2 static Aatxe's AND past the one on the stairs to the safe spot just as Dahnel did in the video. If you hug the wall and run right to the closed doors, nothing should be on you except a grasp if you agro it. I dropped my inspiration down to like a 3 since you don't need physical resistance up that long. Everything dies pretty fast. This should allow you to have Illusion up to 12 I think. Add a 20% longer enchants to your weapon and you'll be able to out run the Aatxe you're having problems with. This will also help if the doors open and you agro the 2 bulls. With 12 in Illusion, you could safely run back to the spawn point with no problems.
I have some of his problems too, didnt think to lower inspiration and up illusion. There have been some instances where the aatxe on the stairs follows me all the way to door.

[Dahnel]

There have been some instances where the aatxe on the stairs follows me all the way to door.

hmmm do you stop between the stairs and the doors to recast IoH ? if so that would explain it as it alows them to gain ground on you and would'nt give you enough room to outrun them ...if not are make sure you do have enough space to outrun them :P

[Beowulf1982]

great build but mine is a little better (i can kill coldfires with my build but not shown in the video i have.

here is my video

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=5612049300803441373&hl=nl

sorry on my next video more variaty in music.

my best run was 10m 35s (4 ectos 3 gold weapons)

[Deacon Roswell]

great build but mine is a little better (i can kill coldfires with my build but not shown in the video i have.

How is this a little better? It's the exact same build except for one skill change. I would hardly call that "your" build. That is Dahnel's build and you use it the exact same as he did. Killing coldfires gives you no real advantage at all. There's no point in killing them since they drop nothing of value and are easily avoided.
Copying someone's well thought genuine build and changing one skill does not make it your build.

[XvArchonvX]

I tried Dahnel's build out for a good while, and while it was fun and can make it through UW, I found it a bit dependant in spawn. Every once in a while I had a spawn where a nightmare between the starting area and the first door would snare me and allow the Aatxes to crush me before I could recast IoH.

In my personal opinion, the dual run is still faster and more reliable, but I had fun trying this one out. I send my respect to Dahnel for discovering it.

[jinkas]

What armor is everyone using for this? The OP mentions Oracle's and someone else mentioned Halcyon's. I'm about to buy 15k armor for my Rit and would like to get Halcyon's (since that is what I use when I'm not farming), so I wanted to know if the armor bonus from Oracle's is really worth it. The only benefit I can see is that you get healed for more (relatively) from VwK because the smites hit you for less. Opinions, please.

[The Legg]

I use the energy armour for both uw and fow farming. I find the extra energy helps a great deal when holding the ashes. Correct use on phys resistance really negates the use of other armours. With the extra energy you can keep sv and av up while still being able to spam vengeful weapon. Coldfires not a problem either.

Good luck with the ecto

[Saider maul]

" imo, until then the rt/me can be considered the most effecient "

The Rt/Me is not the most effective..... Its down right brutal. LOL
I'm still amazed they did not nerf it in the last update.

Btw... Aatxes have the highest % chance to drop ecto not the smites But smites drop more golds then anything else.

Either way ya look at it,... its the closest anything has come to pre aoe nerf 55 UW solo farming.

It also makes for extremely fast 2 man in both UW and FoW if you choose to run with a friend.

[Xaero Gouki Kriegor]

great build but mine is a little better (i can kill coldfires with my build but not shown in the video i have.


thats extremely amazing, it must be better if it can kill coldfires

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/37/coldfiresownedvn5.jpg

[Beowulf1982]

How is this a little better? It's the exact same build except for one skill change. I would hardly call that "your" build. That is Dahnel's build and you use it the exact same as he did. Killing coldfires gives you no real advantage at all. There's no point in killing them since they drop nothing of value and are easily avoided.
Copying someone's well thought genuine build and changing one skill does not make it your build.

if you watch my movie it will show that i know thats its Dahnel's Build, i improved it so if it happens that you agro coldfires during the smite run you are able to kill em and then move on. so next time if you want to burst someone bubble make sure you have all the information

[Deacon Roswell]

if you watch my movie it will show that i know thats its Dahnel's Build, i improved it so if it happens that you agro coldfires during the smite run you are able to kill em and then move on. so next time if you want to burst someone bubble make sure you have all the information

LOL
1. See post above. Dahnels build is capable of killing colds.
2. You're still not getting it. You specifically stated "my build is better" and referenced "my build" several times.
Instead of trying to make it sound like "your build", next time try stating it as a varation.
"I swapped skill X for skill Z in my variation of Dahnel's build and it seems to work better for me"
That give's credit where credit is due and doesn't sound like a 13 year old posting "mine is better than yours!" :evil:

Btw... Aatxes have the highest % chance to drop ecto not the smites But smites drop more golds then anything else
Could you please provide some factual information to back that up? If not, then it's just your observation on your runs. For me, the smites drop 85% of the ecto I have received. I don't think you can really say one or the other drops more ecto. It seems to differ for players.

I tried Dahnel's build out for a good while, and while it was fun and can make it through UW, I found it a bit dependant in spawn. Every once in a while I had a spawn where a nightmare between the starting area and the first door would snare me and allow the Aatxes to crush me before I could recast IoH.

In my personal opinion, the dual run is still faster and more reliable, but I had fun trying this one out. I send my respect to Dahnel for discovering it.
This Rt/Me is the fastest build by far. There is no spawn that causes problems for this build if you understand how to use it. I've done roughly 25 straight runs with no deaths and I've talked to a few others with the same success. If that nightmare is giving you problems, equip a wand or bow and hit Illusion of Haste. Run up and aggro the aatxes/grasps (spawning the nightmare) and run back to the starting position. The nigtmare won't strip you if you turn around as soon as you hear him spawn. Once the aatxes are back in place just wand the nightmare or lure him down to you. Make sure you have Illusion of Haste on if you are going anywhere near the aaxtxes just in case.
The only advantage a dual run has is that you can kill the aatxes too, but then you have to 50/50 drops so it's more profitable to go alone.

You can whisper me in game if you want to see what I'm trying to explain. A character from each of my accounts is listed <---- in my profile under the avatar. **My Ritualist is on the European servers though. I haven't made one on my American account.
Another thing that I think makes the first room easier is to take the grasps on the right first. After you take the quest, wait for the group on the right to come down. They almost always make at least one trip down the stairs. After that, they often get stuck behind the aatxe forcing you to run to the safe spot by the closed doors to kill them. This will make it much easier for those of you getting pinched at the closed doors while fighting the grasps up there.

[Xaero Gouki Kriegor]

The Rt/Me is not the most effective..... Its down right brutal. LOL
I'm still amazed they did not nerf it in the last update.

Btw... Aatxes have the highest % chance to drop ecto not the smites But smites drop more golds then anything else.

Either way ya look at it,... its the closest anything has come to pre aoe nerf 55 UW solo farming.

It also makes for extremely fast 2 man in both UW and FoW if you choose to run with a friend.

yea, what if you had 2 friends with you, one with ss and etc, other with holy wrath and smiting enchantments and etc, can you imagine how fast that would be added on to the damage of Vengeful?

[Bastian]

yea, what if you had 2 friends with you, one with ss and etc, other with holy wrath and smiting enchantments and etc, can you imagine how fast that would be added on to the damage of Vengeful?

If its time you're looking for - then sure. But my whole point of going down (as I would assume would be other's points) is to SOLO the area to get 100% of the drops and not have to split ecto's, golds, etc...

But sure, I bet there are plenty of ways to go about this faster with more people...

[Xaero Gouki Kriegor]

yea i mean of course, rather go down and solo, but it would be an interesting test to see tests in *speed* of killing other things as well if you combined 3 offensives pitting out damage

*edit*

maybe this could re-evolutionize the 3 man fow solo, if you packed spell breaker and life bond on the monk with holy wrath and etc

[Dahnel]

Lol..if only i knew how popular this whole rit farming thing would be when i soloed those first Am Fah assassins ...have to say thanks for the support guys.

100th post ftw.

[Dahnel]

EDIT: why am i so retared ...double post ftl.

[Bob Whills]

My rit now has more than 1 mil experience on like 15 days... thanks for the build. :D

[Holz]

Amazing build.. thanks man. After spending like 2 plats to find out how to pull the Graspings I was very happy I could move on, but got a little problem now.
When I'm at the Smites, those Coldfires just block everything for me. I can kill like 2 or 3 groups of Smites, then I come at the crossing with the Coldfires walking up and down etc., and I can't pass through, lol. I died more times getting pwnd by Coldfires than getting pwnd at the first part -___-.

I'd appreciate it if someone can give me a little help :D

[Arkantos]

Avoid coldfires. Before aggroing smites, watch the coldfires path. It will always be the same. Basically, try to find a place where coldfires don't go, and pull the smites there.

[Sentential]

Lol..if only i knew how popular this whole rit farming thing would be when i soloed those first Am Fah assassins ...have to say thanks for the support guys.

100th post ftw.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Rt/Me_Vengeful_Farmer#Usage

^^ All credit goes to you

[lauren xx]

why cant this kill ataxes....and could u tell me what to do if they body block u

[Arkantos]

why cant this kill ataxes....and could u tell me what to do if they body block u

The Aataxes are way to strong. They can hit up to 600 on a caster.

[Dahnel]

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Rt/Me_Vengeful_Farmer#Usage

^^ All credit goes to you

:eek: thats effin awesome :D

[Sentential]

:eek: thats effin awesome :D
Douchebag who stole your build complained to wiki to have it reverted to his half assed old one and not the one I edited on your behalf. If they dont fix it Im not going to bother fixing it again. Better to have a broken build on the wiki so that anet doesnt feel inclined to nerf it.

[Dahnel]

Douchebag who stole your build complained to wiki to have it reverted to his half assed old one and not the one I edited on your behalf. If they dont fix it Im not going to bother fixing it again. Better to have a broken build on the wiki so that anet doesnt feel inclined to nerf it.

Heh. Its cool, i know what i created, and the good folks at guru know so its whatever ;)

...kinda flattering that someone would even consider stealing it :P

[imsystem]

You could just kill the coldfires too. Just dont use physical resistance or the visages and move out of there malestrom. I wouldent recomend taking on more then 3 at a time though and the time it takes to kill them is not worth it unless you have to. Be sure not to take on smites and coldfires though.

[dr1zz one]

Dahnel, thanks for the build. With a few minor changes, i was able to go thru a lot of Factions and am currently working my way thru Tyria. Plus, this helped me get a few armors for some of my needy characters.
Thats kinda sad about wiki, i checked out the link, checked it again later in the day and it was changed.
Also, with your build, i almost cleared out all the coldfires as well. It was more of a challenge, but very simple to do if needed. I lost my concentration on the last group because i was prematurely celebrating. lol

[Fernando Vidigal]

i still can't kill the cold fires.

How you guys kill them, or put here a video explaining how to kill them.

Thanks Dahnel for the build.

thanks everyone for helping

[jinkas]

Rather than wasting time learning how to kill the coldfires, I would suggest that you spend time learning their patrols and how to avoid them. They take a while to kill and don't drop anything good, and it's possible to kill all the smites without the coldfires ever noticing you (which I've always found to be strange...."Hey Lou, weren't there some little spidery guys over here last time we walked past? Where'd they go?").

You can get through the run MUCH faster if you avoid all the coldfires.

[Bastian]

Rather than wasting time learning how to kill the coldfires, I would suggest that you spend time learning their patrols and how to avoid them. They take a while to kill and don't drop anything good, and it's possible to kill all the smites without the coldfires ever noticing you (which I've always found to be strange...."Hey Lou, weren't there some little spidery guys over here last time we walked past? Where'd they go?").

You can get through the run MUCH faster if you avoid all the coldfires.

I agree. Learn the spots that coldfires don't go and kill the smites first. However, coldfires do drop the new gloom shield (i think thats the name of it) and can be killed after killing the smites. Easiest way I have found is hit up echo and aggro. Then use VwK. Stay outta maelstrom by moving around. You will need to use soothing and vengeful weapon at critical spots once your 3 VwK's stop. But after spamming vengeful weapon and VwK and by moving around they can be killed. It does take some time tho - although not a significant amount. Plus, gloom shields are pretty rare - so a nice drop of one can go for quite a bit.

GL!

[jimr625]

"Could you please provide some factual information to back that up? If not, then it's just your observation on your runs. For me, the smites drop 85% of the ecto I have received. I don't think you can really say one or the other drops more ecto. It seems to differ for players."

Easy Killer - Actually from Guildwiki it clearly states that the ecto drop rate for a smite is <2% and the ecto drop rate for an Aatax is 4%. Most people get their ecto drops from smites because in a typical run they kill about 10 times as many smites as they do Aatax. It's a simple number of kills thing.
If you have been running this build to get your ecto's the OF COURSE you are getting more ectos from the smites cause you don't kill the aatax. He made one statement and while I agree with the first part of your post just calm down and put this in perspective.

[ricnavgo]

ah yes all goes as planed , the revolution is soon to come muhahah...MUHAHAHA ...ahem uh uh ..er did i say that out loud ?

Thanks Dahnel for the build. I'm a rich $$$ Rit. now!!!

Vengeful Rits FTW!!!

[mad 55 monk]

Thanks Dahnel ! This is the best solo build iv ever seen !

ppl check my video - smite run in 9 mins 50 secs. Did lots of small mistakes - will make better video later.

http://tv.isg.si/site/ftpaccess/slly/9-50solosmites.avi

(XviD coded) 37 mb

[lolwtf]

Dahnel,you're the man! Just thought I'd drop by and say thanks for this build!

[NEOgeo]

really dunno wtf is going on, but all day today in uw when i ast visage then IOH and agro, i have lost visage as soon as i cast IOH , i spent 25k trying to see wtf is happening and there is NO nightmares there !!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[Legendary Shiz]

How profitable is this build to be exact?

I'm thinking about making a rit, and it'd basically be for this and PvP. Just curious if it's worth it.

[Holz]

@NeoGEO

You are probably targeting the ghost with your visage while you aren't even noticing it.

@Shiz

This bulid is very, very profitable. Don't forget you are farming in the UW, one of the best high end areas in the game with great loot. You will probably waste a large amount of plats before you are used to luring at the start; but you'll (well, atleast I do) make a large amount of money every run. If you are an experienced UW rit, the run takes about 10-13 mins. I make about 3-4k of pure loot and ID'ing the whites and selling them to the merchant, without the ectos. The ectos drop pretty good too (not for me tho the last days) and they drop many golden items too (most are shite, but worth like 400g to merchant). The Phantom chests have some pretty nice items if you're lucky.. I got a Storm Bow with crappy stats and +30hp mod (Salvaging got me 8 wood planks though, lol).
Hope I helped you with this info

[XvArchonvX]

I'm not sure I would say that this build is as/more profitable than a monk/SS or monk/Famine duo run (when done right) since you can't take the Aatxes or Terrorwebs and since getting the smites can be very risky, especially with a bad spawn, but it is definately a good, profitable build. It takes a bit more practice to get down that many other UW farm builds, but can be very nice when you don't have a farmin buddy online and don't want to bother with PuG duo partners.

[Legendary Shiz]

Info appreciated Holz. Gave me exactly what I was lookin for. Looks like I'm givin this rit thing a try.

[Star Alfur]

Spiffy build, works great. :)

Not sure if this was posted (too lazy to read all the pages), but it can be done as a Mes/Rit - tried tonight. Replaced Soothing Memories with Channeling, since I used Vengeful Weapon all through-out the cycle to make up for the difference in attributes.

At 12 Restoration, the Squids/Smites all drop around middle of the third VwK.

[TomD22]

With the aid of the guide (thanks) i'm finding it easy enough to get past the aataxes to the smites now. But i keep screwing up and letting a group of smites kill me sooner or later. Usually it goes OK but then some group of them will just overwhelm me with zealot's fire. Obv. I have ancestors or sympathetic up, but what else should i do? Is this when i'm meant to be using Soothing Images? I didn't actually see a use for it mentioned so swapped it out for channelling...and i can't imagine i'd ever have a spare 15 energy to use it without channelling...but is that the answer? I'd rather not swap out vengeful weapon 'cos i don't see how to kill nightmares w/o it.

Thx

edit: btw, i don't know if it's just that filefront sucks, but your vid doesn;t seem to be available to dload today

edit edit: and also dahnel, i think you're in my alliance O.o ( [Tash] )

[XvArchonvX]

With the aid of the guide (thanks) i'm finding it easy enough to get past the aataxes to the smites now. But i keep screwing up and letting a group of smites kill me sooner or later. Usually it goes OK but then some group of them will just overwhelm me with zealot's fire. Obv. I have ancestors or sympathetic up, but what else should i do? Is this when i'm meant to be using Soothing Images? I didn't actually see a use for it mentioned so swapped it out for channelling...and i can't imagine i'd ever have a spare 15 energy to use it without channelling...but is that the answer? I'd rather not swap out vengeful weapon 'cos i don't see how to kill nightmares w/o it.

Thx

edit: btw, i don't know if it's just that filefront sucks, but your vid doesn;t seem to be available to dload today

edit edit: and also dahnel, i think you're in my alliance O.o ( [Tash] )
I don't know why you would want to bring Soothing Images, especially if your trouble is with Smites since they use no adrenaline skills (being monks and all). As long as you keep a Visage on you at all times however they will be drained of energy and should go down quickly. If you are waiting for the smites to attack you before casting Vengeful, that might be your problem, in such case simple make sure you have a Visage on you and have Vengeful up before the first smite pulled hits you. Beyond that I'm not sure what advice to give you since the only problems I really encountered were Nightmare popups between two close Aatxe groups when running to the smites.

[TomD22]

My mistake lol. I read "Soothing Memories" in the guide as "Soothing Images". I'll just try putting vwk up sooner then...

[mrlopes]

Have never died cause of the smites. I've dropped Soothing Images for channeling. The problem was with clear the chamber, at leat until i know exactly what and when to do it. Now is a walk in the park, take me around 18k, but they are recovered in the first day.
So this is a great and easy build for sure.

Just don't forget to put Physical resistance on.

Next time will try the coldfires, and taking Ward of frost, instead of channeling, i think it could work nice and easily.

Smites:
With visages always on and physical resistance, VWK should be enough to keep you at almost full health, just keep spamming Veng Weap.

Thanks for sharing.

[lundis]

need to see some smiteage death there witte, mainly because smite killing is whole purpose of soloing uw, they the ones with the "better" drops, aatxes are more the less, "obstacles" imo, until then the rt/me can be considered the most effecient
hmm.. im not farming UW 24/7 but i have never found an ecto of a smite crawler
on the other hand i've found loads of them by killing the aatxes ;)

[mastar of warrior]

Arent You Killing The Aatxes?

[yo home boi]

Wow this build rocks! I made enough Ecto/Cash for my Warriors FoW helm in 2days!! =O This farm takes a while to master but once u have its a peice of piss ^^. Now all i gota do is find a decent Forgemaster group! Ty eva so much Dahnel u r a ledge!

[Tainek]

Lately ive been swapping Soothing with various other skills, mantra of frost makes Coldies infinity more tankable

my Mod:


Standard atrib

VwK
Arch Echo
Vengeful weapon
IoH
Visage
Visage
Phys Res
Mantra of frost

you can spam Vengeful all day with Mantra of frost on, making colds easy kills

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/9827/gw410ox6.jpg

20 smites at once, anyone beaten that? do i get a cookie?

[xtc_blitz]

Whats with the number 15, and the arrow on your compass? Never seen that before.

[Tainek]

Whats with the number 15, and the arrow on your compass? Never seen that before.

put in with paint, to show the smite numbers

[xtc_blitz]

Ahhhhhh.. It all makes sense now.

[Avenged Darkness]

Hmm anyone try this with a Me/Rt?
I am short 1 rit, and I just happen to have a mesmer I am attatched to =/.

[Tainek]

Hmm anyone try this with a Me/Rt?
I am short 1 rit, and I just happen to have a mesmer I am attatched to =/.

it works, but is less relyable and slower

[Avenged Darkness]

Hmm, might just sacrafice my PvP slot until Nightfall comes out and make myself a rt then..

[Tainek]

Hmm, might just sacrafice my PvP slot until Nightfall comes out and make myself a rt then..

i did the same to make an ele a month ago, in 12 days i'll have 10 Pve toons and a pvp slot (bonus key)


with a pvp ready monk ive not needed the slot

[chicks boy]

thx for the video, i think ill go underworld again and hope i dont waste another 25k- 30k JUST to practice..... idk WAT i do wrong . i thought this was suppsoed to be a money maker build but its draining my money..... slowly..... :(

[Gor Peace]

I don't want to be mean, but what's the point of soloing UW avoiding aatxes? If solo uw was already boring, avoiding them it's even more boring and since Aatxes have the higher ectoplasm drop rate (4%) it's freak not facing them.

Well sorry for criticism, but it's true. Solo will be always a waste of time since there are no solid builds for it.

Nothing like a decent SS or Famine Ranger and a DECENT Spirit Bonder Monk.



P.S. Dead to all 55hp's monks.

[RebelHero]

Perfect timing for me to return, after a busy period of school.

Solo will be always a waste of time since there are no solid builds for it.

WRONG... This very build is the proof of it. Who needs those big nasty cows, when you got speed. The speed with which this build can solo UW, is way higher than other builds. What this build lacks in droppage of ecto's from aatxes, it makes more then up for in droppage of ectos/hour. And as every UW farmer will tell you, the goal of solo UW is the smites... remember SMITErun? Due to the sheer numbers of them.

Nothing like a decent SS or Famine Ranger and a DECENT Spirit Bonder Monk.

WRONG AGAIN... You have to share your ectos with someone else. While you may be getting more ecto's in one run, you waste more time with the aatxes. And after that its 50/50 on ectos.

P.S. Dead to all 55hp's monks.

I dont like you... I really dont...

Power to the Ritualists! Just start the revolution, we'll worry about IW later ;)

[Tainek]

I don't want to be mean, but what's the point of soloing UW avoiding aatxes? If solo uw was already boring, avoiding them it's even more boring and since Aatxes have the higher ectoplasm drop rate (4%) it's freak not facing them.

Well sorry for criticism, but it's true. Solo will be always a waste of time since there are no solid builds for it.

Nothing like a decent SS or Famine Ranger and a DECENT Spirit Bonder Monk.



P.S. Dead to all 55hp's monks.

If you actually had a look at all, you'd see the 55/105hp SS necro solo build, which can do the entire Run in 14 mins (Attaxes& all Smites), no solid builds my ass

[Koning]

Thnx Dahnel for this great build:cool:

Too bad I dont have a ritualist so I had to do it with my mesmer:D, but still it's very easy and fast:D . I only had to up my armor a bit to still get overhealed by VwK. Taking smites out takes only 2.5 VwK's. (btw I start with PR, than try to aggro 10+ smites, run to safe spot, cast AV/SV fast and than I start with echo VwK, when they are already on me).
Only Graspings are a bit annoying cause they take 4 VwK's to take out (so 10 sec without VwK:( )

Oh, and with a mesmer/ritualists it's still possible to take out the coldfires;)

[mad 55 monk]

If you actually had a look at all, you'd see the 55/105hp SS necro solo build, which can do the entire Run in 14 mins (Attaxes& all Smites), no solid builds my ass

link on 14 mins video plz...

[Tainek]

link on 14 mins video plz...

here (http://files.filefront.com/15_minute_smite_run_solo_oavi/;5482703;;/fileinfo.html)

Its 15 mins here, but he made some easly avoidible mistakes, so 14 mins is easly done


Including sell time, i ususally get 4 entire runs in about an hour and 5 mins

[sahan]

It's the same thing for me :)

[Kcp]

here (http://files.filefront.com/15_minute_smite_run_solo_oavi/;5482703;;/fileinfo.html)

Its 15 mins here, but he made some easly avoidible mistakes, so 14 mins is easly done


Including sell time, i ususally get 4 entire runs in about an hour and 5 mins

Forgive me I was baked, but yes easily 14 mins a run, I've done faster then the recorded run several times but always forget to load gamecam b4 playing.

Can't do everything perfectly, ppl will think I use some secret hax or use a bot.

I love the 2 man people who claim non-stop that duo runs are more profitable......B.S.

Simple math 50/50 or 100%...I'll take 100% each and everytime regardless of run time.

Anyways nice build dahnel, shame no ritualist on my account atm, maybe when nightfall gets here with that extra slot I'll whip me up a ritualist.

[BoondockSaint]

:) http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q76/dethfrmabve07/gw009.jpg

sweet, finally did it thanks for the build, took me a few tries but it can be done quickly and easily

[talzek]

AMAZING build. after aataxe induced death thanks to talking to the Lost Soul at the start (>_<), the second run went near flawlessly. took awhile, though for a second run, that's fine with me. practice makes perfect right?

Dahnel, you shall recieve many MEEPly hugs from me over AC

[Lavindathar]

Cost me around 20k in practicing, but I can get through to the smites and kill them.

Awesome build, but im losing a lot of money due to the atax spawning at the bottom of the stair with the last grasp behind him. if he's a couple of steps up, you can slide past on the right side of the wall.

The other problem is when a nightmare spawns in the middle as well, so then ur have the atax/grasp chasing, and if the nightmare can hit that rend enchantments uve lost IoH and your fooked.

Gonna keep trying, but its doing my head in tonight.

Good build though, excellent in fact!

[Arkantos]

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/9827/gw410ox6.jpg

20 smites at once, anyone beaten that? do i get a cookie?

This build can tank any amount of smites with no skill, so no you do not get a cookie.

[Tainek]

This build can tank any amount of smites with no skill, so no you do not get a cookie.


Ahh, but the skill is in the aggro, with large amounts you either cast Echo, Run in , gather and then cast Vwk (with only 18 effective seconds to gather aggro), or you run in gather can cast echo>Vwk , and 3 seconds is enough to kill you several times over

[Lavindathar]

Finally got this build sorted, making a good profit now and completing the whole run.

Just swapped Spiritgardens reposte for a Totem Axe and a Restoration Straw Effigy. Now my enchants last 20% longer, I have 2 more energy points and I still have the recharge 20% bonus.

Helps an awful lot, and now I can clear it :)

[Katch]

Very solid build. Thank you very much.

[ZwizzeR]

considering the new nerf that came, is this still doable?

[Iñaki]

considering the new nerf that came, is this still doable?

It is still very much doable, only slower since you have to take only one group at a time, but still it is one of the best ways to get ectos in the game

[Saider maul]

yes this build still works well and quickly in UW. I timed it and runs take 17minutes at most averatge is 15. So they added about 3 minutes to the run from the nerf.

Thanks dahnel for this truely awsome build. i haven't ran anything like it sense 55 prior to aoe and rendenchant additions to uw.

anyone wanting to know exactly how much ya can make.... with everyone it varies but i am well into my second stack of ecto.

Cheers!

[ZwizzeR]

Great! I'll make myself a Ritualist then :D

[Dahnel]

Great! I'll make myself a Ritualist then :D

Its moments like these...:(

[kirch1jt]

Nice ^^ Is downloading the video now.. Do you think this can be done with a Me/Rt? Cus im out of Char slots to make a Rit x.x

~Shadow

sure can

http://c.myspace.com/Groups/00017/90/49/17259409_l.jpg

this is an old pic b4 this build was very well known thats why is blocked out, i forgot all that was on there. If you want a pic of my Me/Rt with that let me know im sure i can find 1.

[Bloodied Blade]

I was gonna say that it's pretty easy to figure it out... I mean you can blink and see it's vwk. You're getting healed for the same amount your doing dmg with, so it's vwk.

[unmatchedfury]

Does VwK still work since nerf, I'm finding it alot harder to do some places and other places like stonereaper outside of aborstone are impossible.

[Dookie Dookz]

I was gonna say that it's pretty easy to figure it out... I mean you can blink and see it's vwk. You're getting healed for the same amount your doing dmg with, so it's vwk.

yeah and u have the Drop Item button on the bottom of the screen

[aB-]

Does VwK still work since nerf, I'm finding it alot harder to do some places and other places like stonereaper outside of aborstone are impossible.

After the AI update, only 3 melee enemies will continue to attack you after they begin to get hurt. That means you can aggro 20 smites on you at once, but only 3 will continue to attack you after you have activated VwK. This makes the run take slightly longer. What used to be 1 aggro of smites now has to be 2.

[samcobra]

the problem is... they switch off.. meaning that those three will not remain untill they die. When they get below 50% health, they'll retreat and wait for another to come and take their place.

[Bloodied Blade]

It works, it just take a little while longer.

[unmatchedfury]

If only there was a way to protect spirits form AOE dmg, then I could use the ranger build infinantly

[Bloodied Blade]

You mean keep famine alive?

...you just cast another spirit in front of it and cast famine further away. Either the smites don't do anything to the spirits b/c they are too far to target them or they attack 1 spirit while the other smites die via Famine.

Not sure what you're trying to say since this is a rt/me solo thread...not the r/me.

[Sebulpa]

I dont know is this asked but how long takes 1 smite run about with this build??

[Saider maul]

post nerf?.....15-17min for a skilled farmer.

[ThaAlchemy]

I tried it for the 1st time last night, took about 4 or 5 tries to get to the smites. But once i figured it out it took about 15mins per run.

[Dreikki]

I tried it for the 1st time last night, took about 4 or 5 tries to get to the smites. But once i figured it out it took about 15mins per run.
Same thing happened to me.
It's clearly harder to run away from axates, and sometimes when I aggro grasps a mob of axate which is not even near the grasps starts running towards me.

[adbanks]

I made 700k in about a week, and I have job and a life an everything

If you aint tried it, try it. It might take a few goes to get a successful run, but whats a few k when u make so much

[Bloodied Blade]

I made 700k in about a week, and I have job and a life an everything

If you aint tried it, try it. It might take a few goes to get a successful run, but whats a few k when u make so much

Agreed there. A couple platinum is nothing compared to what you earn. In 1 run of FoW (1k to spend), you can make 10k+... and UW is more profitable.

[laurson]

just captured VwK, gonna try it :D

[Sir Twisteh]

How the hell do u get to the smites? Once i kill all the grasps the axxtes wont lose aggro and keep chasing and eventually kill me :\

Tips plz!

[laurson]

just run (with the run skill, cant remember the name), they will leave ya in 3sec..

[Bloodied Blade]

How the hell do u get to the smites? Once i kill all the grasps the axxtes wont lose aggro and keep chasing and eventually kill me :\

Tips plz!

Use your run speed increase either right before or the second that you aggro anything...they will drop aggro after you've run enough...I know, it's annoying.

[Lethorn Maeran]

This is awesome...got 3 ectos and 2 golds off my first run,

[Rabbit28]

This is awesome...got 3 ectos and 2 golds off my first run,

wow, lucky...im having bad luck with drops. only 1 ecto over about 7 runs, earning more than i pay to get in though :)

[Sorn Xarann]

Does this still work? after the Nightfall update?

[Geishe]

yush. it works welllll.

[Dahnel]

:eek: People still posting in here

[Dreikki]

:eek: People still posting in here
Of course we are, honey.

Yes, it's annoying how Axates always kill you when you re-cast illusion of haste. Once axates followed me all the way past the first mob of smites until they finally killed me and went back.

[daraaksii]

Some monsters follow you until they do something to you. Once when I was a Shiverpeak Chest runner, Mesmer mobs followed me all the way, it doesnt matters to them that I used any running skills or not, they had the same speed. When I stopped, the mob casted Empathy on me, turned back, and joined to his team.

[AscalonWarrior]

Mesmer mobs followed me all the way, it doesnt matters to them that I used any running skills or not, they had the same speed. When I stopped, the mob casted Empathy on me, turned back, and joined to his team.
For some odd reason I started to laugh when I read that.

But back to topic: What armor is preferred for this? Energy or Armor+10 While Holding an Item?

[daraaksii]

For some odd reason I started to laugh when I read that.

But back to topic: What armor is preferred for this? Energy or Armor+10 While Holding an Item?

Why you started laughing?:)

Btw. Yes, +10 armor is preferred, maybe +health.

[jinkas]

But back to topic: What armor is preferred for this? Energy or Armor+10 While Holding an Item?

Personally, I use +energy armor (Halycon's) and have no problems at all. In fact, after just a little bit of practice I dropped the self-heal (I used Mend Body and Soul) in favor of Channeling so that I could use Vengeful Weapon more often. (In other words, even without +armor or +health I can afford to drop the big self-heal.)

[Rabbit28]

This build roxorz my boxorz!

It is frustrating at first, but master it and its quite profitable, currently have farmed about 13 ectos and 2 sapphires

MY RITUALIST HAS A PURPOSE!

[Grolubao]

How can u manage to control the spread of darkness's?

[Bloodied Blade]

How can u manage to control the spread of darkness's?

It's tricky... from the stairway opposite the one that you use for 55ing, you run up with +speed on, and aggro 1 grasping. Our little friend there will take his mob with you. DO NOT use VwK immediately. Give them like 3 seconds or so to waste Distracting Blow (you can just watch for when their tentacles glow) and then cast. I realize this seems rather difficult to do since they scatter, but SV/AV should be easily maintained (hey, if I can do it with an R/Me then you can do it with a rit).

Whatever you do, don't pull them all. Just 1 mob at a time (yes, you will have to watch their aggro patterns to find out which ones are in each mob). Any more than 1 mob and you have a pretty good chance of dying. If all else fails, illusion of haste to the spirits (only really can do this if there's just 1-2 remaining). You *can* body block them, it's just extremely difficult (you have to be facing the grasp, and then he's facing you, but right behind the spirit. Usually this isn't reliable, I can pull it off maybe 6 times out of 10).

[- Gobby -]

Yep havent done this in a while...used to be sweet money b4 the update! Kinda is still ok but id ranther farm Grenths Footprint with my Warrior...

But i might give it ago soon as i havet been there ina while so i might get lucky!

[Arielle]

Hello, just wanted to ask, post-nerf, how many smites do you guys aggro at a time?

Do you guys ever combine groups, or just take them in the groups of 3-5 that they naturally come in?

Thanks for any and all answers, looking forward to picking ectos again after the nerf

[[DE]]

Hmm... I made a Rit just for this farm (to bad I stilll have to get him from KC all the way down to Leviathan Pits :()

[nghwee]

To Arielle: combining groups doesnt work post-nerf, 1 grp at a time, which means 3-5 smites.

Hope this helps.

[Sir Twisteh]

Great build, finally mastered it after 20k worth of runs :p

[dekboi]

Imo this is one of the best builds ive come accross :)
To date ive gotten about 70 ectos or so from it. Ty dahnel for putting me on the road to my fow armor :-D

ps. i dont just use it for UW, works great in many a place

[Dreikki]

ps. i dont just use it for UW, works great in many a place Share please? I've only done UW, Onis and Wardens with this build.

[flipfly2004]

ive been using this build for such a long time... gotten me 54 ectos already
always remember:
- cast illusion of haste before aggroing
- after stopping cast sv immediately
- never aggro 2 groups at a time
- be patient and dont just run in

if ur having problems with nightmares try using the w/rt build coz it doesnt rely on enchantsments... takes a little bit longer but imo its safer

[Bowstring Badass]

Heh. This build and the r/me build both work but I think last time I timed it the rt/me was faster not sure tho.

[Xethrion]

Tried it and was successful on my very first run (prior UW experience with 55 monk and nec though), though I screwed up next run at the beginning. Aggroed a NM that was blocking the way to kill it without having Illusion of Haste on and got raped by Aatxes after that. ouch. Then 2 more successful runs after that for a total of 3 ectos. Not bad for the first day I use it :p

Minor question, how do you guys deal with the linked patrolling Aatxe and NM duo? UW vets should know what I mean

[bored-.-bored]

Since it has been semi nerfed as you cant agro massive groups any more im to lazy to make a rt i just use wittes w/rt build

[Captain Arne Is PRO]

I just need a little space to mention how retarded I am. I momentarily forgot that you could have more than one enchantment on you at a time.


Great build, can't wait until I'm level 20 to get my pwn on.

From what my friends say it's a LOT faster than any other solo build.. And since I've already mastered the movements with other builds I think I'll catch on quick!

[Sainor]

Made a Rt for this and fell in love with the profession. And the runs are rather easy for cuz I did this as Famine solo before. However Rt is faster and easier. Right now working on getting used to this build.

[Xethrion]

Agreed, this is one of the easiest builds to run for UW solo. Once you get the hang of the casting order and don't mess it up, it's pretty much foolproof unless you make a major mistake.

Of course, prior UW experience would be extremely useful, in figuring out patrol patterns, safe spots, possible NM spawns etc.

[ca_aok]

It took me about 5 tries to get to the smites, but once I got the hang of it it was great. I got 3 ectos on my first run so my rit has pretty much paid for himself :p Thanks again.

[Fox Reeveheart]

couple questions.... is the equipment that is suggested something that should be required? Do I really need a 20% enchanting thing? I can see not needing a 20/20 focus since its more of a 1 in 5 chance thing.

Is this build still usable after the aggro change?

what is the casting order? that was never put into detail on here? I never saw any vermin build to read up on. I'm guessing its echo, VwK, Vwk clone, Vwk. All while using vengeful weapons in the meantime. what else? and what do i do for the 20-30 seconds I have for arcane echo to actually recharge to turn it back into VwK? physical resistance and vengeful weapon spamming?

[Fox Reeveheart]

(sorry for doubel post, edit button was not working for me)

Ok but seriously, I just spent ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL of my money on trying this build and I lost all of it!

Somebody needs a VERY in depth guide on how to do this run, because somebody has a screw loose, the aatxes dont seem very slow to me! and how long is a few seconds to have your visage up against the darkness's? I was at about half health (like 3-5 seconds of being attacked) when i decided it was time to turn on vengeful and i still got killed before it turned on. and another group of darkness spawns with a aatxe with it or at least thats how it seems, how do i deal with that?

all my money is gone, i'm broke. i spent a whole week on getting the skills for this (my comp is awful and the lag is beyond terrible, so what i have to do is be on only a little bit at a time because the computer will overheat and I am forced to restart, its very frustrating.).

Next time we have favor, could i POSSIBLY join one of you guys on the run, i'll just go run and die or something so i can have the camera on you. Obviously I can't read this and be able to do it, I have to see what you are doing.

Do you turn on pr when you first aggro the darkness?

And where is this vermin farming build that is mentioned? they dont even have a link to show how they use that either.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I could really use some help here, I will have to spend all tomorrow trying to get 1k.

I havent killed ONE enemy besides a dying nightmare that popped up as i was walking to get the clear chamber quest, i turned on VwK and he died within like 2 seconds... weird... but obviously I cant run up there without dying so i couldnt get his loot anyways.

[Geishe]

omgod, calm down!

I reccommend practising using the VwK build first NOT in UW. Search up the Vermin farming build via the Search button. Its pretty much the same idea apart from the running around thing... but once you get the hang of the build everything else should just come together.

Lag is a terrible thing.

[XvArchonvX]

Practice is VERY important for this build.

Also, the search button is your friend:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/searchbt.php?search=vengeful+vermin
The first result teaches the vermin run. There are pictures, videos, and a lengthy description.

As for UW, cast all your enchants, aggro the Graspings, then run far enough away so that the Graspings follow you and the Aatxes give up and turn around. After this, wait a little bit for the graspings to attack you and lose energy from Visage. After a few seconds, start casting stuff and kill them. Also, makes sure you cast Arcane Echo BEFORE you aggro anything.

This being said, you are probably better off using the E/Me solo build if you want to solo farm UW. The vengeful build still works, but is slower since the last AI update.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10100360

[ca_aok]

Actually, I never practiced VwK outsdie the UW, as I said, it only took about 5 tries to get it. The way I do it is as follows:

Weapons I use: Firey Flame Spitter of Enchanting (20%) (helpful, not necessary)
Straw Effigy (+30hp/20%HSR factions offhand)

-Turn on illusion of haste. Take the quest from the lost soul and run back to the starting position.

-Turn on physical resistance, one of your visages, illusion of haste, and channeling if you have it (I carry channeling instead of soothing memories). Agro the grasps to the west, then run back to the east set of steps (but don't go up). The axates should break off long before you get there, but overkill is good. Let them hit you for like 3 seconds, then activate arcane echo, then VwK, then your second visage (my first one usually runs out right about now). If you brought channeling, spam vengeful weapon, if not, use it occasionally, keeping enough energy for VwK and SV/AV at any time.

-Wait until the middle group of grasps reaches the western steps. Make sure any patrol of nightmares is away from the group. Activate your enchants as before, and lure the grasps to the starting point (luring them all the way to the steps tends to break agro). Repeat killing process.

-Activate all your enchants again, run up the east steps and into the safe spot near the locked door towards the smites.

-Wait for the grasps to come down the steps, then throw everything on (even illusion of haste... sometimes axates will agro you), run back, then start killing.

-As you kill, try to move as far away from the door as you can without agroing axates behind you... otherwise you may agro foes on the other side of the locked door.

-Once dead, the doors will open. Make sure any patrol with a nightmare is out of your run path. Throw everything on (channeling isnt necessary if you brought it, I still keep SV or AV on for running, keeps the axates from using some of their strong attacks if hitting you), and run up the steps. Around here, you may need to reapply illusion of haste. Continue to run towards the smites. Reapply IoH until you're sure you've completely broken agro, otherwise they may lock on to you again even if they started to run back.

-For smites, throw everything on before agroing, cast Arcane echo while they run at you, and then VwK right away. With channeling, I spam vengeful weapon permanently while recasting VwK and all of the enchantments.

-After killing the 1st smite group, run forward until you reach a junction. A coldfire patrol passes through there every little while, so be sure to wait for them to pass before running by. If a nightmare spawns at the junction, kill it with vengeful weapon.

-Run into the spot where there are no coldfires. Its on top of a small cliff. Occasionally there will be smites there, if not they will be in the mass of coldfires to the east, or on the plains below the cliff. Pull a group with a longbow and kill them. Clear all of them out of the area.

-Wait for the coldfires to be a safe distance away, then run down below the cliff and head west. You'll see 3 coldfires as well as the rotating patrol from the junction, as well as a smite group. Pull and kill them.

-Run back to the junction, avoiding any colds. This time, you'll be luring any smites in the east. A patrol of colds generally goes up and down the long cliff face, be sure to avoid them. Pull smites back to the junction.

-After killing them, run north along the cliff face until you hit a wall at the very end (you can generally see an axate through it if you hold down CTRL. There should be a group of smites towards the end, pull them to the wall so you wont agro any colds.

-After killing them, follow the patrol of coldfires along the bottom of the cliff face, being careful not to agro others. When they start climbing a hill towards the possible chest spawn, you can slip into a monster free zone near a sheer wall. If there is a chest, wait for the colds to turn back, then run up and grab the chest.

-This is the tricky bit... unless you get lucky with smite positioning, you now either need to kill some coldfires to finish the run, or get off a lucky longbow shot without agroing any colds (really hard if the smites are in a bad position). To kill colds, I put up channeling only. I use echo before agroing, then VwK, and spam vengeful. Step out of any maelstroms, but other than that, allow the colds to hit you. Reapply channeling and VwK as necessary. At most you should have to kill 2 groups, usually one is sufficient. Experience will tell you which group, and when it's worth it to do so.

-Finish any smites.

-Run = finished!

Hope that helped you a bit.

[novawhiz]

(sorry for doubel post, edit button was not working for me)

Ok but seriously, I just spent ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL of my money on trying this build and I lost all of it!

Somebody needs a VERY in depth guide on how to do this run, because somebody has a screw loose, the aatxes dont seem very slow to me! and how long is a few seconds to have your visage up against the darkness's? I was at about half health (like 3-5 seconds of being attacked) when i decided it was time to turn on vengeful and i still got killed before it turned on. and another group of darkness spawns with a aatxe with it or at least thats how it seems, how do i deal with that?

all my money is gone, i'm broke. i spent a whole week on getting the skills for this (my comp is awful and the lag is beyond terrible, so what i have to do is be on only a little bit at a time because the computer will overheat and I am forced to restart, its very frustrating.).

Next time we have favor, could i POSSIBLY join one of you guys on the run, i'll just go run and die or something so i can have the camera on you. Obviously I can't read this and be able to do it, I have to see what you are doing.

Do you turn on pr when you first aggro the darkness?

And where is this vermin farming build that is mentioned? they dont even have a link to show how they use that either.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I could really use some help here, I will have to spend all tomorrow trying to get 1k.

I havent killed ONE enemy besides a dying nightmare that popped up as i was walking to get the clear chamber quest, i turned on VwK and he died within like 2 seconds... weird... but obviously I cant run up there without dying so i couldnt get his loot anyways.

I feel with you bro i have spent all my money on builds befor and not been able to use them at all.

Honestly there is no way that anybody can explain how to use this build to you. (Or it will be very hard and annoying.)

Instead we have the power of GameCam.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2969349226155313599&q=uw+solo&hl=en

Just watch this and see exactly what this guy does. You can even take it part by part with gw minimized like i did.(Get in UW and minimize GW, look at first part of video, open back up GW and do it, look at next part on video etc..)

This is what I did/doing(still getting hang of build) By no means will you ever get this build or any for that matter on your first try. It takes many tries and faluires.

Unfortunetly yes, it does cost a whole fricking 1,000g to get in UW but you can kill two birds in one stone by farming vermins outside Senkis Corner(or something like that, ive only had my friends factions account for a couple days.)

1). You are making money for your next UW trip/s
2). You are practicing outside of UW how to use VwK build.

Watch video- and if you cant get it after that then your hopeless(JK;) )

[ca_aok]

Hmm I just realized all my directions were assuming you begin in the UW facing north... but it's actually northeast or something else :(

So I dunno about anyone else, but the SV/AV nerf kinda sucks. Channelling helps ALOT to maintain the needed energy, I'd strongly recommend it now. The build is still doable. I have my illusion/inspiration at 9/9 now since you wont get 9 seconds of visage without 12 illusion.. which sucks. So I took a point off illusion (didn't decrease the durations any farther) and put it in inspiration for slightly longer channeling/PR. Basically what this means is that grasps get a window in which to drain your energy and interupt you. It's a real pity that you don't get the 20% longer enchants bonus while holding VwK; that's what kills the concept right there. Also the rend enchantment buff means you need to be more careful than ever about nightmares while using IoH. They now pop up and use rend so fast you may not notice until your enchants are gone and you start to die.

Without channelling, I'd forsee this build running out of energy pretty fast.

[King's Spectre]

I'll have to try that. I did a standard test run last night. I found that as long as I waited to cast the first visage until *after* the graspings were attacking, all was well. I also had to pay close attention to when I used phy resist. Time it so that you're just getting to max energy again when you cast haste to agro. Otherwise you could find yourself high and dry when you need to cast the next visage.

I may have to bit the bullet and stop using collector armor..

Another thing that could help is a +30 energy (gottahavavisageNOW) weapon switch.

[ca_aok]

yeah, I think having a 15 -1/27 -1 weapon set would help alot for those hairy situations where they interupt SV/AV and start spamming fear me.

I guess the +energy rit armor would probably be a better bet now too, though I think I'll stick with the +armor while holding an item stuff.

I mean keep in mind, they could end up tweaking SV/AV back, these changes are "temporary" (though I'd say it's not likely). This is really the only build that was affected though, other than energywise, since the other builds can use 20% enchant weapons since they don't hold items. I mean, I still use my firey flame spitter for the initial enchant cast bonus and occasional VwK faster recharge, but normally when you use a visage VwK will be running.

[King's Spectre]

Oof! The new improved nightmares are nasty to a character who not only uses enchants for speed boot, but is dead in the water when they get stipped.

Going to have to work on the fast weapon spell - wand tag combo..

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

Question: How do I deal with 5 or more smite crawlers at once? I do fine with 4, it's just my final VwK ends too fast when there are still 2 or 3 more.

[Ole Man Bourbon]

Doh, can't access page 12 for some reason.

edit: nm, someone must have deleted 1st post on page

[ca_aok]

Question: How do I deal with 5 or more smite crawlers at once? I do fine with 4, it's just my final VwK ends too fast when there are still 2 or 3 more.
Constantly spam vengeful weapon until VwK recharges. It's usually not a big deal.

[King's Spectre]

Dang, I think my Rit is officialy going on mule status. Thank you OP for a great build, while it lasted.

Edit: Meh.. went back to bang my head against the wall some more, but the skills reverted. I guess I'll try again in a couple weeks.

[ca_aok]

It still works fine... there will occasionally be a screw up with the grasps but other than that not much has changed.

[Crowell The Fallen]

did anyone try and farm using this build during the skill change weekend? im curious as to how people delt with the AV / SV changes.

[King's Spectre]

did anyone try and farm using this build during the skill change weekend? im curious as to how people delt with the AV / SV changes.

Heheh yes, and not well. :D The improved rend enchantments and timing issues were messing me up more than anything. I went out yesterday and upgraded my armor to a +energy set followed by a slew of attunement runes. That at least will give me the energy to fire off an extra Visage and VwK or survive a few Fear Me! shouts if I'm too slow.

[black_mamba]

does this build still work with all new updates?

[lunaticmo1]

AYBwYxWCEPRgHsEkEim Templet for this build, post on front page =)

[Tiny Killer]

does this build still work with all new updates?

Perhaps if you read the post directly above yours...