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Cygnus_Zero
12-29-2005, 10:07 AM
I know there is multiple threads on this topic. There is one in the build submission sticky called Spiteful Parasite. There is another one submitted by KCP that seemed like it would work well. But what I want to know is what is the best solo build of these examples to use for just solo farming against creatures like hydras and whatnot? Not really looking for a UW or Fow specific build.
tigernz
12-29-2005, 10:34 AM
KCP's one works great vs hydras & griffons, as does his AotL one. It's what I've been using anyway :)
Cygnus_Zero
12-29-2005, 10:40 AM
I don't know anything about AotL builds. I'm not even sure what they are for. So I was just going to go with an SS build.
Cygnus_Zero
12-29-2005, 10:45 AM
Also, which KCP build would be best? He had 2. Keep in mind the build I need is not for UW or FoW. It's for hydras & griffons.
Uw
1. Protective spirit
2. breeze
3. GUARDIAN ( avoidance of Savage slash...sometimes)
4. SS
5. Shadow of fear
6. essence bond
7. balth spirit
8. Mending
FoW
1. PS
2. breeze
3. Vigorous Spirit ( shatter enchant fodder )
4. SS
5. Insidious parasite ( your life line !!!!)
6. essence bond
7. balth spirit
8. Mending
holden
12-29-2005, 11:25 AM
I don't know anything about AotL builds. I'm not even sure what they are for. So I was just going to go with an SS build.
get that skill Cygnus! Aura of the Lich is great with dark aura. you can do freakish damage to groups. with dark aura you do damage to adjacent foes. armor ignoring, nasty damage if death is high. spam dark pact and touch of agony.
cap that mother. aotl is elite.
tigernz
12-29-2005, 11:30 AM
Doesn't really matter which of the above you go with - the key spells are 1, 2, 4, 6, 7 & 8.
Insidious is handy to top up your health, but is by no means necessary. I have guardian but don't bother using it vs hydra's (very rarely need it) It is useful on occasion when you have 9-10 griffons & mino's surrounding you though.
Haven't used Vig Sprit yet so can't comment on that
Cygnus_Zero
12-29-2005, 11:37 AM
get that skill Cygnus! Aura of the Lich is great with dark aura. you can do freakish damage to groups. with dark aura you do damage to adjacent foes. armor ignoring, nasty damage if death is high. spam dark pact and touch of agony.
cap that mother. aotl is elite.
I'll work on capping that tonight. The thing is I played through the entire game, not ever using Death at all. Not a big MM fan, so I just avoided everything death related. Excpept I think I got into Deathly Swarm for a little while but not much else. And I really hated putting points into an attirbute for 1 skill.
Where is the AotL build on this site? I can't find it.
Cygnus_Zero
12-29-2005, 11:38 AM
Doesn't really matter which of the above you go with - the key spells are 1, 2, 4, 6, 7 & 8.
Insidious is handy to top up your health, but is by no means necessary. I have guardian but don't bother using it vs hydra's (very rarely need it) It is useful on occasion when you have 9-10 griffons & mino's surrounding you though.
Haven't used Vig Sprit yet so can't comment on that
When you say those numbers above, which of his builds are you referring to? UW or FoW?
tigernz
12-29-2005, 11:47 AM
When you say those numbers above, which of his builds are you referring to? UW or FoW?
Take a look at those skills - they're the same for both UW and FoW. The only differences between the two builds are Vig Spirit instead of Guardian and Insidious Parasite in place of Shadow of Fear, the core of the build is identical for both.
holden
12-29-2005, 11:50 AM
I'll work on capping that tonight. The thing is I played through the entire game, not ever using Death at all. Not a big MM fan, so I just avoided everything death related. Excpept I think I got into Deathly Swarm for a little while but not much else. And I really hated putting points into an attirbute for 1 skill.
Where is the AotL build on this site? I can't find it.
the basic build is
AotL
Dark Aura
Blood Renewal
Touch of Agony
Dark Pact
with dark aura, every time you sacrifice health(touch of agony, dark pact, blood renewal) dark aura does damage. with death high it does around 50. with blood high touch of agony and dark pact do around 50 each. its close to 100 damage every time you cast toa or d pact on someone. and dark aura is just that, an aura. it will do damage to adjacent foes. AotL allows you to spam toa and d pact and sacrifice health without dieing. it halves the damage you take. blood renewal gives you a boost in regen.
pve and pvp are different skills for the rest of the build. i'd use well of blood for sure in pve. consume corpse is nice in pvp. if you're n/monk i'd take contemplation of purity. barbed signet would fit in.
give it a try. you'll enjoy the hell out of this build.
check this link.....
http://www.gwkb.org/cBuild.php?mode=Show&ID=484
edit---i have not soloed with a dark aura build. i think you would run into trouble. but who knows, with well of blood you may be pretty tough
Cygnus_Zero
12-29-2005, 12:07 PM
Thanks for the info guys!
Cygnus_Zero
12-29-2005, 12:35 PM
the basic build is
AotL
Dark Aura
Blood Renewal
Touch of Agony
Dark Pact
with dark aura, every time you sacrifice health(touch of agony, dark pact, blood renewal) dark aura does damage. with death high it does around 50. with blood high touch of agony and dark pact do around 50 each. its close to 100 damage every time you cast toa or d pact on someone. and dark aura is just that, an aura. it will do damage to adjacent foes. AotL allows you to spam toa and d pact and sacrifice health without dieing. it halves the damage you take. blood renewal gives you a boost in regen.
pve and pvp are different skills for the rest of the build. i'd use well of blood for sure in pve. consume corpse is nice in pvp. if you're n/monk i'd take contemplation of purity. barbed signet would fit in.
give it a try. you'll enjoy the hell out of this build.
check this link.....
http://www.gwkb.org/cBuild.php?mode=Show&ID=484
edit---i have not soloed with a dark aura build. i think you would run into trouble. but who knows, with well of blood you may be pretty tough
This sounds like a good PvP build to play with to me. I wouldn't try it in PvE. In groups, i'm very good at playing Battery and enjoy that. Solo, I'll try out a 55hp SS build. Thanks for this info though. I have not PvP'd much but recently beat the game so i'm getting ready to PvP more and this build is probably at the top of my list of ones to test.
pagansaint
12-29-2005, 05:08 PM
In PvP AotL is very very fragile. I've used a W/N and killed them in literally under 5 seconds. The build cannot take any sort of degen on top of sustained damage.
And you will be the focus of damage if you attempt to run in and offer them cause to target you.
It is a gimmicky build, and most gimmicky builds are very easily countered, but do tremendous damage in the right situations. IWAY without a mass degen caster for example would be helpless against you. But any enchantment strippers and you are back to using dark pact and touch of agony for the minimal damage at close range.
Cygnus_Zero
12-29-2005, 08:39 PM
I dont have much PvP experience, but I have yet to find a really good PvP Necro build. Like anything, nothing is invincible so im not looking for that. Just something solid.
Undead Preacher
12-29-2005, 10:53 PM
the basic build is
AotL
Dark Aura
Blood Renewal
Touch of Agony
Dark Pact
with dark aura, every time you sacrifice health(touch of agony, dark pact, blood renewal) dark aura does damage. with death high it does around 50. with blood high touch of agony and dark pact do around 50 each. its close to 100 damage every time you cast toa or d pact on someone. and dark aura is just that, an aura. it will do damage to adjacent foes. AotL allows you to spam toa and d pact and sacrifice health without dieing. it halves the damage you take. blood renewal gives you a boost in regen.
pve and pvp are different skills for the rest of the build. i'd use well of blood for sure in pve. consume corpse is nice in pvp. if you're n/monk i'd take contemplation of purity. barbed signet would fit in.
give it a try. you'll enjoy the hell out of this build.
check this link.....
http://www.gwkb.org/cBuild.php?mode=Show&ID=484
edit---i have not soloed with a dark aura build. i think you would run into trouble. but who knows, with well of blood you may be pretty tough
Honestly, build is okay but your a lot better off with a 55hp solo build, i can solo 10+ hydras and 10+ griffins, can also solo UW
Swang
12-30-2005, 05:57 AM
could u tell me the build that u r using for soloing UW? n if u mean necro build ofcourse, what do u do with nightmares?
Cygnus_Zero
12-30-2005, 08:11 AM
The build is above.
Swang
12-30-2005, 10:01 AM
i see....but how can he deal with nightmares if he is going alone? n can u kill smiters 2?
Cygnus_Zero
12-30-2005, 10:47 AM
There is some videos in the link below.
http://hosted.filefront.com/GodlikeSatan
holden
12-30-2005, 12:26 PM
In PvP AotL is very very fragile. I've used a W/N and killed them in literally under 5 seconds. The build cannot take any sort of degen on top of sustained damage.
And you will be the focus of damage if you attempt to run in and offer them cause to target you.
It is a gimmicky build, and most gimmicky builds are very easily countered, but do tremendous damage in the right situations. IWAY without a mass degen caster for example would be helpless against you. But any enchantment strippers and you are back to using dark pact and touch of agony for the minimal damage at close range.
lol. you're playing against noobs then.....
you should at least have experience playing a dark aura build before putting it down.
Undead Preacher
12-30-2005, 12:43 PM
could u tell me the build that u r using for soloing UW? n if u mean necro build ofcourse, what do u do with nightmares?
I posted my Aotl Build here in the forums.... Nightmeres are simple, i use Deathly Chill, kills them instanly.... and when I solo.... NM's die with 2 max customized wand hits... only problem is when 2 spawn but doesn't happen often... i dunno what solo build you use but for nm's bring 1 spell that does HIGH dmg, for me, deathly chill does 89dmg and its an INSTANT kill!
pagansaint
12-30-2005, 11:05 PM
Actually holden I have, they are too gimmicky for me, I want something that can survive and kill in many types of battles, not just geared towards one opponent type, or people who don't know what is going on.
AotL Dark Aura builds are:
Enchantment heavy offense.
Enchantment heavy defense.
Touch range.
Sacrificial Damage, which has to come quickly or the build doesn't work.
I played with the build when it first started seeing much exposure, I stopped after I realized it doesn't work at top damage versus anything but warriors and stupid/inexperianced/unaware casters.
It has its benefits, the enchantments it relies upon let you still take a moderate bit of damage while still chaining out Dark Pact and Touch of Agony.
But anything other than unfocused or off target Aura type damages will start to cut into the health pool too deeply to allow maximum casting of spells.
And degen? Well, I assume you have played against or with an invinci-monk who thought they could use their build in PvP.... Unavoidable death with any sort of attack on top of the degen.
And enchantment strippers? Well Good Game Necro... You have to re-cast because your once good damage is now only slightly annoying and not fast enough to be overly worrying. And then because you were already stripped are being babysat by a mesmer or interrupt ranger or you are dead from spike.
So yeah. Been there done that. Been killed and then killed everyone of these I've seen there-after (except when monking of course) ;)
holden
01-02-2006, 10:32 AM
Actually holden I have, they are too gimmicky for me, I want something that can survive and kill in many types of battles, not just geared towards one opponent type, or people who don't know what is going on.
AotL Dark Aura builds are:
Enchantment heavy offense.
Enchantment heavy defense.
Touch range.
Sacrificial Damage, which has to come quickly or the build doesn't work.
I played with the build when it first started seeing much exposure, I stopped after I realized it doesn't work at top damage versus anything but warriors and stupid/inexperianced/unaware casters.
It has its benefits, the enchantments it relies upon let you still take a moderate bit of damage while still chaining out Dark Pact and Touch of Agony.
But anything other than unfocused or off target Aura type damages will start to cut into the health pool too deeply to allow maximum casting of spells.
And degen? Well, I assume you have played against or with an invinci-monk who thought they could use their build in PvP.... Unavoidable death with any sort of attack on top of the degen.
And enchantment strippers? Well Good Game Necro... You have to re-cast because your once good damage is now only slightly annoying and not fast enough to be overly worrying. And then because you were already stripped are being babysat by a mesmer or interrupt ranger or you are dead from spike.
So yeah. Been there done that. Been killed and then killed everyone of these I've seen there-after (except when monking of course) ;)
lol. im sorry you have all those problems
try n/monk and use contemplation of purity.
pagansaint
01-02-2006, 05:51 PM
You have to be very fast to get rid of Contemplation in time to save yourself. In that time you are also taking damage from outside sources if they are serious about taking you down.
I'd rather use a character with broader range that doesn't crumple like a beer can at a frat party.
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