Rate Mesmer elites!

[Hella Good]

RATE MESMER ELITES FROM 1 TO 10 (10 BEING THE HIGHEST, 5 THE AVG, AND 1 THE LOWEST)
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Avg so far (as per post 36):

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 8.05

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 7.35

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 6.33

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 8.00

None:
Echo 6.14

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 4.95
Power Block 6.00

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 1.90
Illusionary Weaponry 6.71
Ineptitude 8.52
Migraine 7.24

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 1.94
Mantra of Recall 8.19

None:
Sig of Midnight 6.29

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 7.70
PInstability 3.89

FC:
Arcane Languor 3.79
Stolen Speed 4.10

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 5.95
Shared Burden 3.40

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 3.50
Power Leech 4.05

None:
Expell Hexes 9.30
Shatter Storm 3.94

TOP 3 so far (from highest to lowest):
1) Expell Hexes (Factions)
2) Ineptitude (Prophecies)
3) Mantra of Recall (Prophecies)

BOTTOM 3 so far (from lowest to highest):
1) Fevered Dreams (Prophecies)
2) Keystone Sig (Prophecies)
3) Shared Burden (Factions)

NOTE: Not all figures reflect the same amount of input (some skills got more feedback than others). Max input for a skill so far- 21, min- 18. The avg is rounded to the nearest 100th.

NOTE: When both PvE and PvP rating is given, the avg of the 2 figures is derived and rounded to the higher figure, if it has a decimal part. This avg is then used for the total elite avg.

NOTE: Any rating that outside of the 1-10 whole numbers scale is factored in as the closes whole number in the scale. Ex: 0 is factored in as 1, 100 as 10, etc. When words are used as rating, the rating is NOT factored in.

Edit: Last update Aug 21 06

[Terra Xin]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 10

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 9

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 7

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 5

None:
Echo 8

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 3
Power Block 6

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 0!!!
Illusionary Weaponry 10
Ineptitude 8
Migraine 9

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 3
Mantra of Recall 5

None:
Sig of Midnight 10

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 10
PInstability 7

FC:
Arcane Languor 6
Stolen Speed 2

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 9
Shared Burden 6

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 5
Power Leech 4

None:
Expell Hexes 9
Shatter Storm 5

[TeeGee]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 8 - after nerf

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 6 - more gimmick but funny

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 5 - just good antiwarrior

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 8 - more for mesmer secondary like boonprot

None:
Echo 7 - glyph of energy is better but still viable

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 6 - gimmick skill, can be usefull
Power Block 6 - good if used properly

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 0!!!! - meh!
Illusionary Weaponry 4 - funny but useless
Ineptitude 8 - now its really good skill
Migraine 8 - needs cover but is very good

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 3 - funny
Mantra of Recall 9 - just awesome skill for e manage

None:
Sig of Midnight 7 - funny and usefull in arenas/pve

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 9 - great, spammable and passes throuh mantras, like whole interrupter build in one skill
PInstability 2 - useless

FC:
Arcane Languor 4 - still not viable, diversion is so much better
Stolen Speed 5 - well its useless to be honest

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 5 - degen, nothing special
Shared Burden 3 - deep freeze is better

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 6 - could find use on monk
Power Leech 5 - nothing special, not bad but there are better elites

None:
Expell Hexes 10 - just... awesome
Shatter Storm 4 - I don't really like it

[SnipiousMax]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge - 9

FC:
Mantra of Recovery - 7

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish - 5

Inspiration:
Energy Drain - 10 (offense, and E management all in one!)

None:
Echo - 5 (great skill, but use is limited as it's elite)

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic - 5 (again, not a bad skill, but there are other's I'd rather bring)
Power Block - 8

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams - 3 (AoE is too small)
Illusionary Weaponry - 1 (all but useless, rather it was a stance with a lower duration than enchant)
Ineptitude - 9 (excellent!)
Migraine - 7 (works well when teamed with an interrupter)

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig - 3 (maybe if signets were better...)
Mantra of Recall - 10 (easily the best e-management short of E. Prodigy)

None:
Sig of Midnight - 8 (effective, easy to use)

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction - 9 (great, if you like interrupting... I'll stick with a ranger :))
PInstability - 1 (so many others I'd rather use)

FC:
Arcane Languor - 6 (not so bad since it's been buffed, still not so good either)
Stolen Speed - 6 (for as early on as you can get it, not a bad elite even though usefulness ends once you have something better)

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity - 9 (I love the concept of this spell!)
Shared Burden - 2 (better snares availible)

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura - 4 (none too useful)
Power Leech - 3

None:
Expell Hexes - 10 (one of the best)
Shatter Storm - 5 (great effect, but there are better uses of your elite)

[Zoo X]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 6

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 5

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 5

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 6/8

None:
Echo 10

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 3
Power Block 1

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 1
Illusionary Weaponry 6
Ineptitude 7
Migraine 10

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 1
Mantra of Recall 10

None:
Sig of Midnight 6

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 5
PInstability 5

FC:
Arcane Languor 8
Stolen Speed 8

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 6
Shared Burden 2

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 4
Power Leech 4

None:
Expell Hexes 10
Shatter Storm 4

[Dinkytowner]

Wow Powerblock gets suck low ratings? As a PvP monk first who has rescently gotten into the mesmer profession, nothing screws things up more than a good mes with powerblock.

1. PD
2. Powerblock
3. Migraine
4. Ineptitude
5. Energy Surge

The rest are crap with the notable exceptions fo Energy Drain and Mantra of Recall on Mo/Me.

[Themis]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 9

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 4

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 7

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 8

None:
Echo 10

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 6
Power Block 4

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 3 (standalone) - 9 (in team build)
Illusionary Weaponry 7
Ineptitude 10
Migraine 8

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 1
Mantra of Recall 8

None:
Sig of Midnight 8

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 9
PInstability 9

FC:
Arcane Languor 7
Stolen Speed 3

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 5
Shared Burden 5

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 4
Power Leech 4

None:
Expell Hexes 6 (standalone) 9 (in team build)
Shatter Storm ? (never used it yet)

[Avarre]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 8

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 8

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 5

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 9

None:
Echo 8

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 7
Power Block 7

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 1
Illusionary Weaponry 8
Ineptitude 9
Migraine 7

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 3
Mantra of Recall 9

None:
Sig of Midnight 6

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 9
PInstability 5

FC:
Arcane Languor 1
Stolen Speed 6

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 6
Shared Burden 2

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 6
Power Leech 5

None:
Expell Hexes 9
Shatter Storm 4

Gave nothing 10, however to go a little more in depth:

Top PvE elites:

Ineptitude
Recovery
Echo
eDrain
Recall
IW

Top PvP elites:

Surge
Expel
Pblock
PDist
Recall
eDrain

So overall it's the energy management skills that scored highest, because of their usability in multiple classes and that most builds don't need to rely on an elite. The top overall elites that are not energy management are :

Ineptitude (PvE and 4v4 TA)
P Dist (4v4, 8v8, certain missions)
Expel Hexes (4v4, 8v8, anywhere with hexes)

All scoring 9. Coming in behind are surge (strong pvp use, somewhat diminishing though, and weakish pve), echo and recovery (both powerful but not as solid as the above three), IW (got a 8 for farming potential in PvE, but practically nil PvP), with 8.

Powerblock took a hit to 7 because it has very weak pve potentials in my opinion, and can't knock out skills like P Dist can in PvP. Migrane also took a hit down because most skills that can be interrupted with migrane, can be interrupted without it, and stuff that cannot be easily interrupted (RoF), isn't really made much easier with migrane. Much rather go PD / Pblock for interrupt elite (or even echo with cry :p)

[Sab]

If you don't mind me using my own scale...

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge Awesome in PvP, Bleh in PvE

FC:
Mantra of Recovery Meh

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish Meh

Inspiration:
Energy Drain Awesome

None:
Echo Meh

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic Bleh
Power Block Meh in PvP, Bleh in PvE

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams You've got to be kidding me
Illusionary Weaponry I'll take over the world with this skill
Ineptitude Awesome
Migraine Awesome

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig Nerf plz
Mantra of Recall Awesome

None:
Sig of Midnight Meh

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction Awesome
PInstability Bleh

FC:
Arcane Languor Yeah right
Stolen Speed Bleh

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity Only usable in one build
Shared Burden Bleh

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura Bleh
Power Leech Meh

None:
Expel Hexes Godly
Shatter Storm Bleh

[Shadow-Hunter]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 10

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 5

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 6

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 6

None:
Echo 7

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 5
Power Block 6

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 3
Illusionary Weaponry 10
Ineptitude 10
Migraine 7

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 1
Mantra of Recall 9

None:
Sig of Midnight 7

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 8
PInstability 4

FC:
Arcane Languor 5
Stolen Speed 1

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 8
Shared Burden 6

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 4
Power Leech 6

None:
Expell Hexes 7
Shatter Storm 5

~Shadow

[Hella Good]

If you don't mind me using my own scale...
Np, m8, I was planning on eventually factoring the scores in and getting some sort of avg rating tho. But I kinda get the drift. Is "meh" or "bleh" better? :D Also is "awesome" a 9, and "godly"/"ill take the world over with this skill" a 10? :p

Keep it coming people, the more opinions, the more accurate the rating.

[Sab]

Heh, sorry about screwing over your numbers. I didn't have the need to use ten degrees of separation, thus my scale. :p

Bleh is at the bottom, a skill I'd never use (0-3), Meh is average (4-6), Awesome is...well awesome (7-9) and Godly is at the top (10).

[Hella Good]

Heh, sorry about screwing over your numbers. I didn't have the need to use ten degrees of separation, thus my scale. :p
Oh, there is hardly any need to use a 1-10 scale. It's just easier to factor.

[wilson]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 9

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 10

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 6

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 7

None:
Echo 1

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 2
Power Block 9

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 1
Illusionary Weaponry 10
Ineptitude 7
Migraine 9

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 1
Mantra of Recall 10

None:
Sig of Midnight 5

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 2
PInstability 5

FC:
Arcane Languor 1
Stolen Speed 9

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 3
Shared Burden 3

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 1
Power Leech 7

None:
Expell Hexes 10
Shatter Storm 1

[Lady Lozza]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 6
Never been particularly fond of this one in PvE, and since the "balance" it is starting to loose its attraction in PvP.

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 8
This one is fun to play around with, especially when you don't know what elite to use.

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 5
Personally I don't think it is a bad skill, and I've found it extremely useful in GvG and in AB. Nonetheless, Ethereal Burden does the same job, it isn't an elite, and you get energy back from it.

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 7
Useful mainly running as a 2ndary mesmer. That isn't to say that it doesn't work as a mesmer primary, but it is the type of elite I run when I'm concentrating on my mesmer's 2ndary profession. Having said that I can see the potential for it to be a real winner in a high energy domination line skill bar.

None:
Echo 6
Never actually used this on my mesmer... Actually that isn't really right, I used it on a fun build to echo blackout.

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 8
Once again a reasonably untried skill for me. I see the potential for this skill really owning a bonder though.

Power Block 9
Love this skill. It is a winner for certain PvE maps where a single mesmer is used for a very specific purpose, normally that of shutting down high damage-dealing casters. Terrorwebs get owned by this skill.

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 4
This skill is only useful in one or two team setups. 9/10 times those team setups will not be the best idea for any PvE map. Might have potential in GvG, but not in PvP.

Illusionary Weaponry 7
Fun skill. Nice to run in TA, even in RA. Useless in PvE with the sole exception of soloing.

Ineptitude 10
Love this skill. Most effective against warriors, rangers, and assassins, but it also works against casters. This is THE PvE skill to have when running illusion.

Migraine 7
Nice skill for PvP, however I've not found it to be all that useful in PvE. When I run interrupt I would hope that I would be able interrupt without having to use this.

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 2
With the coming of factions, I can see this skill might have some interesting uses. At the moment though I've no plans to try it.

Mantra of Recall 7
Another good mesmer skill for those with mesmer as their 2ndary. That is not to say that it isn't useful for mesmer primaries as energy management, normally though I run with E-Drain over this skill.

None:
Sig of Midnight 6
Yet another skill that is potentially more useful for mesmer 2ndaries than mesmer primaries. Has real potential though for Me/N or N/Me, with plague touch and epidemic.

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 7
Nice skill, but the disable isn't very long, and you are blacked out for that period. Not recommended for PvE.

PInstability 3
Luke warm skill at best. Might work okay if run on or with an interrupt ranger.

FC:
Arcane Languor 5
With the buff this skill now has some uses, however the best place to put it isn't always going to be the easiest. Best used with other skills that punish the caster for casting.

Stolen Speed 1
I'm a mesmer. Only time this is any real use is against another mesmer and even then... I do see the potential use for this against monks in PvP, but there are some many other skills that could be taken.

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 7
Another skill that can be extremely useful if run with the right team. Personally don't recommend it for PvE however, as even if you are running a hex heavy build there are other (IMHO) better elites to take.

Shared Burden 5
Crowd control. Useful in PvP/GvG, however water eles are capable of the same sort of thing, and it doesn't take them an elite.

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 7
This skill can be surprisingly useful in certain PvE areas.

Power Leech 3
Not overly fond of this skill. Why, interrupts and damage for casting in the one skill, enough said. It just doesn't last long enough to do any real damage. There are better energy management skills around.

None:
Expel Hexes 9
Nice one for monks to carry. Nice for mesmers to carry if they are running buff/debuff build.

Shatter Storm 2
Don't like this skill, never will, but might serve a purpose in messing up bonders.

[Avarre]

I demand keystone signet be given at least a three, it's the most powerful energy management mesmers have! Keystone+Ether+Inscriptions mesmer bonder GO!

[LightningHell]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 9

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 9

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 5

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 9

None:
Echo 7

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 7
Power Block 4

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 1
Illusionary Weaponry 8
Ineptitude 9
Migraine 7

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 1
Mantra of Recall 9

None:
Sig of Midnight 5

FACTIONS:

Dom:
Psychic Distraction 9
Psychic Instability 5

FC:
Arcane Languor 1
Stolen Speed 5

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 8
Shared Burden 1

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 3
Power Leech 3

None:
Expell Hexes 10
Shatter Storm 4

[Themis]

I demand keystone signet be given at least a three, it's the most powerful energy management mesmers have! Keystone+Ether+Inscriptions mesmer bonder GO!
Luckily enough, there's no zero or negative quotes...:D

[Evilsod]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 8

FC:
Mantra of Recovery <--- Never used it

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 8

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 8

None:
Echo 10 (purely because of Echo Celestial Storm)

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 4
Power Block 10

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 3
Illusionary Weaponry 10
Ineptitude 10
Migraine 7

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 10 <--- Just to keep Avarre happy :)
Mantra of Recall 10

None:
Sig of Midnight 8

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 9
PInstability <----- Never used

FC:
Arcane Languor 1 <--- Seeing how useless it was when Shiro'ken Mesmers proves that
Stolen Speed 3

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 8
Shared Burden 3

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 4
Power Leech 4

None:
Expell Hexes 10
Shatter Storm 4

[LouAl]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 5

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 9

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 6

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 8

None:
Echo 6 (everything I REALLY want to echo is elite also)

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 6
Power Block 8

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 0
Illusionary Weaponry 5 (good for soloing, but that is about it)
Ineptitude 10
Migraine 5

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 4
Mantra of Recall 9 (less mgmt than e-drain)

None:
Sig of Midnight 7

FACTIONS:
never used any

[Hella Good]

Echo 10 (purely because of Echo Celestial Storm)
Ha?

Keystone Sig 10 <--- Just to keep Avarre happy :)
Cheating detected! :D

[Narayanese]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 8

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 5

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 10

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 9

None:
Echo 2

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 4
Power Block 6

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 3
Illusionary Weaponry 5
Ineptitude 9
Migraine 6

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 1
Mantra of Recall 8

None:
Sig of Midnight 5

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 7
PInstability 1

FC:
Arcane Languor 2
Stolen Speed 3

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 6
Shared Burden 6

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 1
Power Leech 1

None:
Expell Hexes 8
Shatter Storm 4

[Lady Lozza]

I demand keystone signet be given at least a three, it's the most powerful energy management mesmers have! Keystone+Ether+Inscriptions mesmer bonder GO!

This is probably really the only build where it is 100% necessary. Most other (signet based builds - which is where it might be used) can take other, better skills. In all other builds energy management (IMHO) can be handled so much better by other skills.

[Hella Good]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 10

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 5

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 6

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 8

None:
Echo 10

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 8
Power Block 4

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 1
Illusionary Weaponry 10
Ineptitude 10
Migraine 8

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 1
Mantra of Recall 10

None:
Sig of Midnight 9

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 9
PInstability 5

FC:
Arcane Languor 1
Stolen Speed 6

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 8
Shared Burden 2

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 4
Power Leech 4

None:
Expell Hexes 10
Shatter Storm 6

Edit: Moved my personal ratings here.

[Evilsod]

Ha?

I'll presume you haven't used an ele to solo farm Koosun or to kill Shiro? Arcane Echo + Echo + Celestial Storm = teh pwnage

I haven't been using my mesmer a whole lot recently, but Echo Shatter Hex seems to be keeping my guildies happy in FoW :p


As for Expel. I had a PUG to FoW where the ele had brought Expel... that skill alone made it possible for the 4 remaining members to clear half the Burning Forest.

[Dragannia]

I've seen some very strange ratings. Here are mine.

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge- 8

Decent enough, I suppose, if only for its massive area of effect. I'm not a fan of it, but in GvG it does tend to have a large pressure element (especially for pesky warders, with 4 enemy characters suddenly taking 80 damage or so).

FC:
Mantra of Recovery- 9

Honestly, this is a great Elite. One of the few Mesmer skills which can enable you to consistently shutdown multiple targets, non-stop. Hint: Backfire, Guilt, Shame and Diversion. Though an interrupter screws you up like nothing else.

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish- 7

Fairly good Elite. Decent degen coupled with devastating effect. Slowdowns in Arenas are very good. Can also be used in a Mesmer ganker in GvG.

Inspiration:
Energy Drain- 8

Excellent energy management, for Monks and Mesmers alike. It's good for Arenas, Scrimmages and to a lesser extent GvG (though you'd want Surge in GvG with something like Drain Enchant for E-Management).

None:

Echo- 5

I've always been a great fan of Echo, since I like chaining Arcane Larcenies and such. Personally, just from bias, I'd give it something like a 9, but it's not really that good of an Elite compared with the others.

PROPHECIES:

Dom:

Panic- 5

Decent enough, but you need to cover it. In any case, it'll be quirky to pull out in Arenas, but not really suitable for GvG.

Power Block- 6

Good if you can Block, then switch to another target and interrupt that target. Requires some skills to use, but can be devastating in the hands of a skilled player. I suck at interrupting (as Avarre no doubt knows), so I don't bother with this skill.

Illusion:

Fevered Dreams- 1

Right. Let's move on, shall we?

Illusionary Weaponry- 8

Good in PvE, good for a spin in Arenas, but not really suited to anything else. I'd imagine it would be hilarious in GvG with IW-way, though :D.

Ineptitude- 7

Good for PvE, fair in Arenas, but pretty useless in GvG. The damage boost was a huge help, bring something from near-uselessness to a decent damaging skill.

Migraine- 8

I personally hate Migraine, but it's decent enough for pressure builds, anyway. The degen is pretty much all you use it for, and the slower Guardians and such. But if you're using Migraine to interrupt...stop playing interrupt.

Inspiration:

Keystone Sig- 3

Lol. 3 because of humour factor, and the fact that it's actually decently useful in a Holy Wrath build.

Mantra of Recall- 4

Honestly I hate this skill. Very good for boon-prots, but on a Mesmer you're better off with Energy Drain. And that's the perspective I'm doing this from.

None:

Signet of Midnight- 7

It's hilarious in Arenas with Plague Sending. I managed to keep 3 Warriors blinded consistently once, with ALL of them trying hit me. I just cast Spirit of Failure and reaped in the energy while my teamates did the work. But outside of Random Arena, it's too easily removed with 15 seconds of recharge.

FACTIONS:

Dom:

Psychic Distraction- 7

Meh, decent enough. It's fairly good on an Elem with a large energy pool. Using Arcane Thievery and Larceny before hand is a good tactic.

Psychic Instability- 2

Nigh useless. It works only when their SKILL is interrupted, despite the description (I sent an email and they confirmed it).

FC:

Arcane Languor-6

Is actually decent with Arcane Echo and another Languor Mesmer, even in GvG. However, there are better skills to use. Diversion and Mantra of Recovery comes to mind.

Stolen Speed-3

Not really that useful. I've personally never used it though.

Illusion:

Recurring Insecurity-5

Good only for SB/RI spike. Otherwise, it's completely useless.

Shared Burden-7

I don't get why people give this skill such a low mark. With Mantra of Persistence and a cover hex like Suffering, it's actually decent. It lasts for around 30 seconds with Persistence, allowing it to overlap. Allows for a faster Air Elem as a runner.

Inspiration:

Lyssa's Aura- 2

Pretty bad considering all the enemy has to do is to stop targetting you. Decent in PvE, I guess.

Power Leech- 4

Once again, I guess it's decent in PvE, but in PvP it really doesn't have much applications.

None:

Expel Hexes- 9

I wuv Expel. Excellent in all aspects of Guild Wars.

Shatter Storm- 7

This skill is actually a good substitute for Gaze of Contempt and such in a spike build. It also rips through AoE Smiters like nothing else.

[LouAl]

Illusionary Weaponry- 8

Good in PvE, good for a spin in Arenas, but not really suited to anything else. I'd imagine it would be hilarious in GvG with IW-way, though :D.


I watched a few HoH matches last night and saw a Mes running IW, LOL. She was so ineffective I almost fell out my chair laughing. It went something like this: Mes casts IW, casts Conjure phantasm, runs in, hits flurry, gets about 3-4 hits in, a few members (usually just 1 ele and 1 war) of the opposing team target the over extended Mes and she drops like a sack of potatoes. She would eventually get res'd and off she'd go- casting IW, hitting flurry, eating dirt...it really was funny.

[Seef II]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 10 - good all around, though I may switch it out of my pve build now considering other skills.

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 8 - good with the right build and plenty of emanagement, which this skill happens to power as well.

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 7 - not so hot in PvE, but good in arenas and hex pressure PvP. Absolutely hilarious in aspenwood.

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 9 - Energy management and denial all in one. If you can't find any other mes elite to use, this is your fallback.

None:
Echo 3 - if I want to use a skill twice, Glyph of Renewal please. Arcane Echo isn't much worse than this as long as you precast.

PROPHECIES:
Dom:
Panic 3 - not really useful except in very hex-heavy builds. Expensive.
Power Block 5 - long recharge, but great in the hands of a skilled PvP mesmer

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 1 - only got it for 5000 XP.
Illusionary Weaponry 2 - niche.
Ineptitude 8 - great, but the recharge is kind of bleh.
Migraine 5 - most of the time you can do with Arcane Conundrum.

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 1 - very niche.
Mantra of Recall 8 - haven't used this myself, but it's a very strong skill.

None:
Sig of Midnight 3 - junk outside of RA, really.

FACTIONS:
Dom:
Psychic Distraction 8 - the disable and 10 energy gets to me after a while. Good skill though.
Psychic Instability 3 - haven't seen much of a use for this

FC:
Arcane Languor 1 - even buffed, it's kind of lackluster
Stolen Speed 3 - summed up with "meh"

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 2 - not too good, only for SB/RI.
Shared Burden 5 - I will take Deep Freeze for the larger area and non-eliteness.

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 1 - 5000 XP, that is all.
Power Leech 3 - I wish it stole energy on interrupt rather than being a hex.

None:
Expell Hexes 10 - excellent skill.
Shatter Storm 5 - niche, but powerful.

[ZomgZergRush]

1's all around, they all own me.

10 for keystone signet though! Use that agianst me any time!

[Phe Belladona]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge - 8 not used it recently, solid skill tho

FC:
Mantra of Recovery - 9 all your mesmerliciousness twice as often

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish - 7 great in open arenas like AB or Aspenwood

Inspiration:
Energy Drain - 9 best mesmer nrg management around

None:
Echo - 3 fun skill especially when ppl gasp in amazement as you echo res sig

PROPHECIES:
Dom:
Panic - 6 expensive but nice in hex heavy builds, also is useful in Aspenwood, screws with the luxon hammer squads
Power Block - 7 i wish i could do this skill justice, anyone else hating the new skill progress bar?

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams - 0 you may aswell have someone using humility on you nonstop, this causes you a negative effect by taking up space in ur bar
Illusionary Weaponry - 4 gimmicky but fun, i used to play it on my ranger tho, far better there
Ineptitude - 8 pve staple, turns u into a monster muncher
Migraine - 7 i like it purely for the zOMG stress monks get when they see it

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig - 2 tho i did manage to bond 8 ppl with Avarre's suggested mesmer bonder, but a monk is still far superior
Mantra of Recall - 3 awful mesmer nrg management

None:
Sig of Midnight - 2 not impressive

FACTIONS:
Dom:
Psychic Distraction - 7 violently addictive, can screw with you as much as the target
Psychic Instability - 2 amusing, nothing more

FC:
Arcane Languor - 4 i tried for a chain diversion/languor shutdown, but it only gets cast through on occassion and isnt a threat, interesting with Equinox tho ^^
Stolen Speed - 5 nice skill makes the fast faster, far better prenerf tho

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity - 2 tragic, SB/RI is destroyed by 1 hex removal anyway
Shared Burden - 2 needs a seriously bigger AoE

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura - 1 thought it would be fun, it isnt
Power Leech - nice with pve monsters with spirit shackles and mind wracks

None:
Expell Hexes - 10 monsterous skill, eats entire builds for breakfast
Shatter Storm - 5 off to try it now, looks like fun and give lots of ppl grief

[LightningHell]

1's all around, they all own me.

10 for keystone signet though! Use that agianst me any time!

Ex. Dee.

[Wacky]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge PVP: 9 PVE: 5
<-bleh.

FC:
Mantra of Recovery PVP: 5: PVE: 10
<-Most powerful elite for PVE

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish PVP: 7 PVE: 2
<- Nice in RA and alliance battles

Inspiration:
Energy Drain PVP:10 PVE: 10
<-Useful in pretty much any build.

None:
Echo PVP: 1 PVE: 3

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic PVP: 1 PVE: 1
<- don't see the point

Power Block PVP: 7 PVE: 5

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 1
<-er... I can see a use, but not really.

Illusionary Weaponry PVP:4 PVE:4
<-Mesmers die too easily.

Ineptitude PVP: 9 PVE: 9
<-Use on frenzied warriors ftw.

Migraine PVP:6 PVE: 4
<-What avarre said.

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 2
<- Has uses in specific builds which aren't that great.

Mantra of Recall 9

None:
Sig of Midnight 7
<-useful in some builds.

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 8
<-nasty rit hate


PInstability 3
<-Not that great.

FC:
Arcane Languor 1
<-trash

Stolen Speed 5
<-E-drain is usually more useful.

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 8
<- Has a build to it

Shared Burden 2
<- Duration is too short.

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura PVP: 1 PVE:2 bleh

Power Leech PVP: 1 PVE:4 bleh

None:
Expell Hexes 9

Shatter Storm 3
<- just use gaze of contempt.

[Hella Good]

Looking at some of the ratings, I wonder if people had even used the skills.

[Cherng Butter]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 6
I don't really like this skill, it's poor energy denial, but has some pressure potential.

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 10
I swear by MoR for energy denial.

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 7
I haven't used it, but see good Arenas potential with it.

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 8
Good skill, for other classes as well (but don't use it for energy denial).

None:
Echo 6
I haven't used it, but it doesn't sound that great.

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 6
Good for hex heavy pressure builds.

Power Block 4
Lousy...

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 2
Lousy...

Illusionary Weaponry 6
It has some PvE potential.

Ineptitude 8
Great for Arenas and PvE.

Migraine 6
So-so skill, nice pressure for non-monk casters, but put it on a boon prot and he'll laugh at you.

Inspiration:
Keystone Sig 2
Bleh?

Mantra of Recall 8
Good cross-class skill.

None:
Sig of Midnight 5
Farming and RA, that's it.

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 6
Has some uses...

PInstability 4
Meh?

FC:
Arcane Languor 6
It can own if you catch someone off guard and echo it...

Stolen Speed 3
I don't see the point of this skill...

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 5
Soul Barbs only.

Shared Burden 1
Blah?

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 5
This skill has possiblities for defense, and PvE.

Power Leech 5
Possibilities for interrupter.

None:
Expell Hexes 9
If it's not MoR, it's this.

Shatter Storm 1
Gaze ftw?

[Dragannia]

I hate people who just raise Gaze of Contempt as a subsitute for Shatter Storm. It's not. Against AoE spammers, there is no skill more potent than Shatter Storm for destroying their enchantments. Gaze simple has too long of a recharge, and you're also swapping out a Mesmer for a Necro (who is far less useful utility-wise) than a Mesmer (and a Mesmer needs a Monk secondary to keep the hard res anyway). You COULD run two Mesmers, but honestly you'd be better off with Surge then. There are better Elites on a Mesmer, sure, like Expel, but Shatter Storm is not completely useless.

[Gigashadow]

CORE:

Dom:
Energy Surge 10

FC:
Mantra of Recovery 8 - Very abuseable in very specific builds (diversion, shame, guilt, drain enchantment etc.).

Illusion:
Crippling Anguish 9

Inspiration:
Energy Drain 7 - Not a whole lot better than energy tap.

None:
Echo 7 - Glyph of Renewal is usually better.

PROPHECIES:

Dom:
Panic 7
Power Block 6 - Recharge time is too long. Big risk if you whiff on this.

Illusion:
Fevered Dreams 3 - Most people don't know that if the target gets the same condition renewed on them, Fevered dreams doesn't spread it. Would still suck even if they changed this.
Illusionary Weaponry 6 - Amusing, but not something to be used in serious pvp.
Ineptitude 5 - Trash. The recharge time is horrendous.
Migraine 9

Inspiration:
Mantra of Recall 9

None:
Sig of Midnight 6

FACTIONS:

Dom:
PDistraction 8
PInstability 6

FC:
Arcane Languor 6
Stolen Speed 3

Illusion:
Recurring Insecurity 3
Shared Burden 3 - Water magic does this better and snares harder

Inspiration:
Lyssa's Aura 4
Power Leech 4

None:
Expell Hexes 9

[Hella Good]

Calculated the new avg-es as per post 36. Moved the avg-es to 1st post, and moved my personal ratings to the post that previously contained the avg-es. Keep it coming, girls and boys!