Glint vs Kuunavang

[Seraphim of Chaos]

Who would win in a duel to the death? How and why would which win? Remember what their Monster Skills do, and compare. Discuss!



Sorry if this is in the wrong place.

[Alpha Moth]

dunno.

i think glint would though(i like glint more)

[ZenRgy]

A siege turtle.

[Burton2000]

Glint as she has her Hibernation healing spell and Kuunvang has no healing or way to interupt Glint.

[Stupid Shizno]

glint ftw

[Jedimagician]

Kuunavang pwns glint... it does have healing.. renewing corruption... and plus itll put 10degen and 2 energy degen on glint...

[ZenRgy]

But Glint has eggs, pretty ones made of crystal.

[DC_Ross_Dark]

They both have lame ass voices, so i hope they both die.

[Elena]

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Glint

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Kuunavang

comparing em i'd say kuunavang got a good chance of winning

[samcobra]

Um... you forget that glint can see the future...
She can know exactly what the kuunavang will do when.

Damn, she'd be a good interrupter... too bad....

[Zephyr Jackson]

hmm, 8 person can kill Glint, until i see only 8 people kill Kuunie, ill pick kuunie

[Virulance]

Considering that Kuunavang has skills that can rip Glint several new ones, I would say Kuunavang.
Then again, if you consider the lore (if wiki is correct), Glint would be too small for Kuunavang to find because Glint is hidden within a grain of sand in the desert. That and the fact that the gods created Glint... Lore-wise Glint would win, game-wise Kuunavang would win.
(Off-topic, but this is just like ninjas-vs-pirates: it wouldn't happen.)

[Ashleigh McMahon]

It MIGHT happen. No one knows what will happen in Nightfall ;) Joining into 12v12 Glint V Kuunavang battles would be awesome
(Like AB, but one team has Kuunavang on there side, the others have Glint ;) )

Considering that Kuunavang has skills that can rip Glint several new ones, I would say Kuunavang.
Then again, if you consider the lore (if wiki is correct), Glint would be too small for Kuunavang to find because Glint is hidden within a grain of sand in the desert. That and the fact that the gods created Glint... Lore-wise Glint would win, game-wise Kuunavang would win.
(Off-topic, but this is just like ninjas-vs-pirates: it wouldn't happen.)

[Underworld Calling]

lol 12v12 Glint V Kuunavang battles ftw!!!!!

picture this

you and 11 other guildies start out in your base with glint (I say glint because I like glint better)

other team has kuunavang and 12 people

you rush out to meet people and glint shoots fire and so does kuunavang.

then your team with glint wins!!!

who can say no to that?

:ninja:

[Faer]

hmm, 8 person can kill Glint, until i see only 8 people kill Kuunie, ill pick kuunie

Technically Kuunavang could be two-manned. A degen Necro and a good Monk = gg Kuunavang.

Then again, the same could probably work on Glint, so who knows?

(Besides, I've 8-manned Kuunavang in Unwaking Waters when the Kurzicks ragequit at the sight of my 7-hench team... :p)

[Lynxius Pardonus]

I Beat Glint with 6 people earlier(me including), to my surprise really.(2 peeps left before reaching Glint)
Amazing really, since 2 of those 6 people noobs, and one was Alesia the healer henchman.

Heres proof: http://www.genebase.com/upload/access.php?id=168390&w=500&h=375

And more:
http://www.genebase.com/upload/access.php?id=168391&w=500&h=375

My monks a cutie aint she. ^^
Anyway the point is, Glint was more easily defeated than Kuunavang.
Hence, my opinion is that, Kuunavang is stronger.

[Hidden in the Mist]

Glint can be solo'ed while Kuunavang can't.

[ryanryanryan0310]

Steping outside of the box for a moment, i hope they make a glint mini- pet :) ..

[Opeth11]

Glint can be solo'ed while Kuunavang can't.

God bless Grenth's Balance.

[prodigy ming]

Godzilla wins.

actually i gotto vote for kuunavang too. I remember breezing through glint but kuunavang actually gave me some trouble.

[Ashleigh McMahon]

It's actually impossible to solo glint. Reason : Other team, if not real players, are henchys.

UNLESS you take real people, and the other teams real people and they leave. But then your screwed at the afflicted.

Ashleigh

[natuxatu]

i think it was suppose to be, who would win in a fight in which case i'd say glint.. then again maybe that wasn't the point of this topic as i didn't read the first post lol

[Mera Regila]

Kunnavang's attacks and spells do far more damage than Glint could ever hope to dish out. Corrupted Dragon Breath, Corrupted Dragon Scales, Corrupted Dragon Spores, Dark Chain Lightning, Renewing Corruption, all pwnage monster skills. Corrupted Dragon Scales/Spores would cause mass degen to Glint, while Dark Chain Lightning did 300 damage and knockdown to her. Renewing Corruption would cause Kunnavang to heal way faster than Glint would damage her, because when her dragon spores and scales die she gains a lot of health.

My conclusion:
Kunnavang>>>Glint

[Shuuda]

It's actually impossible to solo glint. Reason : Other team, if not real players, are henchys.

UNLESS you take real people, and the other teams real people and they leave. But then your screwed at the afflicted.

Ashleigh

Thats kunavang, not Glint. There are not Afflicted in dragon's lair.

[icedragon981]

Eh, I'd go for Glint.

[OMFGimCUTE]

Kunnavang's attacks and spells do far more damage than Glint could ever hope to dish out. Corrupted Dragon Breath, Corrupted Dragon Scales, Corrupted Dragon Spores, Dark Chain Lightning, Renewing Corruption, all pwnage monster skills. Corrupted Dragon Scales/Spores would cause mass degen to Glint, while Dark Chain Lightning did 300 damage and knockdown to her. Renewing Corruption would cause Kunnavang to heal way faster than Glint would damage her, because when her dragon spores and scales die she gains a lot of health.

My conclusion:
Kunnavang>>>Glint


GLint use Crystal hibernation and when Kunnavag uses Chain lighting it is actually healing Glint.

[I pwnd U]

I would have to say Glint would pwn Kunnavag. Everybody beats Kunnavag, not everyone beats Glint. Glint wins.

[Griev]

Not everyone beats Glint because you don't have to...

Glint ftw though.

[carbajac]

I don't know. Glint has some pretty handy healing spells to overcome the -10 degen. She has a +7 health regen spell plus some other heals. Plus, if the monster skills cost them energy, exhaustion on Kuunavang could become an issue.

[Chief]

Interesting topic. Dragons has been a hobby of mine for years and tend to favor Eastern world dragons (gothic and medieval) than the Far Eastern Dragons (orient).
Eastern dragons (Glint) were always considered as an evil power, terror-inspiring and warlike.

Far Eastern dragons (Kuunavang) were considered a source of wisdom and a beneficent creature.
Glint (considered god-like) was also created by the Gods of Tyria and the first of all creatures, which means Kuunavang is a child in comparison to Glint. I would not weigh too heavily on the skills you see Glint use in battle, because she also has eons of wisdom to aid her in battle and very well may have powers beyond our comprehension.

In my opinion, Glint will prevail.

[Opeth]

Interesting topic. Dragons has been a hobby of mine for years and tend to favor Eastern world dragons (gothic and medieval) than the Far Eastern Dragons (orient).
Eastern dragons (Glint) were always considered as an evil power, terror-inspiring and warlike.

Far Eastern dragons (Kuunavang) were considered a source of wisdom and a beneficent creature.
Glint (considered god-like) was also created by the Gods of Tyria and the first of all creatures, which means Kuunavang is a child in comparison to Glint. I would not weigh too heavily on the skills you see Glint use in battle, because she also has eons of wisdom to aid her in battle and very well may have powers beyond our comprehension.

In my opinion, Glint will prevail.

/signed

[lapsus]

Well Glint is really good at the healing aspect, but kuunavang can fly away then dive bomb. And i think the spores would do her in pretty fast as well. Its like tank vs SS, if the SS kites well enough, and the tank rushes SS(Kuunavang) wins. If tank plays it smart it would win.
As far as lore is concerned, neither can really die and both have centuries of expierance under them. Kuunavang has already died once, served the oldest of emporers and is just as smart if not more so then glint. Glint has size, age, and healing ability on her side, prophecy is helpful but she cant see past desicions ppl make, and can just see the general flow of things. thats why she didnt say an exact year, or date and names.
IMO Kuunavang has many more advantadges then glint and as thus would probably win.

[Reks]

After reviewing the skills, I'd say Kuunavang, since she'll just degen Glint to death.

On the other hand, I'm not taking into account Glint's normal attacks which hits pretty hard. But then again Kuunie's Dark Chain Lightning is armor-ignoring, so... :eek:

[Chief]

Interesting topic. Dragons has been a hobby of mine for years and tend to favor Eastern world dragons (gothic and medieval) than the Far Eastern Dragons (orient).Eastern dragons (Glint) were always considered as an evil power, terror-inspiring and warlike.

Far Eastern dragons (Kuunavang) were considered a source of wisdom and a beneficent creature.
Glint (considered god-like) was also created by the Gods of Tyria and the first of all creatures, which means Kuunavang is a child in comparison to Glint. I would not weigh too heavily on the skills you see Glint use in battle, because she also has eons of wisdom to aid her in battle and very well may have powers beyond our comprehension.

In my opinion, Glint will prevail.

Another thing to consider is that Glint can conjure "Facets", which means Glint would have the advantage.


Facet of Light - Guardian, Shield of Regeneration (Elite), Signet of Devotion
Facet of Nature - Concussion Shot, Hunter's Shot, Melandru's Resilience (Elite), Pin Down
Facet of Chaos - Diversion, Ether Feast, Mantra of Recall (Elite), Shatter Hex
Facet of Darkness - Blood Renewal, Grenth's Balance (Elite), Parasitic Bond, Unholy Feast
Facet of Elements - Aftershock, Aura of Restoration, Crystal Wave, Lightning Surge (Elite), Shock
Facet of Strength - Gladiator's Defense (Elite), Healing Signet, Power Attack, Wild Blow

Glint's 6 Facets with a total of 28 skills (including Glint's known skills) would pretty much tear through the Kuunavang.

...but kuunavang can fly away then dive bomb ...
What makes you believe Glint can not fly? Did you not see the wings spread on her back, as she rises on her hind legs, after you pick up one of her eggs?

[lapsus]

i saw that but man she is HUGE! lol a 500 lbs person can walk but can they run?
Glints facets would probably take a very VERY long time to create, and theres no proof that she can recreate them after theve been shattered.

[Eldin]

Glint would destroy Kuunavang. Not just in terms of strength, but lore-wise, she's an ancient all-knowing creature, and the first creature on Tyria at that.

Plus, if she is capable of summoning facets, it would only make K's demise quicker.

[I pwnd U]

Wow throw in summoning Facets and thats game over for Kuunie. :p Glint would beat Kuunie already. Just too much damage being done by Glint and not enough healing for Kuunie for Kuunie to win. Glint FTW.

[Blazing]

I think glint would win... first of all: ALL the above reasons; second cause i would really love to see glint walking around with the newly dead kuunavang in his HUGE mouth as if she was a dog with a bone...;) Yes cause that mouth is big enough for 2 kuunavangs to fit in..

& other reason... Glint rules! :D

>by the way im new here & this is my first post so hi all.

[some guy]

They both have lame ass voices, so i hope they both die.

What do you think you will sound like when you are 3000 years old

[lapsus]

Can you imagine how long it would take to summon 1 facet? thats a completely whole creature capable of thought and magic as well as completely independant from glint. Worse then that the exhaustion after the cast would be like a year and a day long. Summon facet=1 day (thats a low assumption) and causes exhaustion +10. Kuunavang slaughter of the defenseless glint=12 hours (a high assumption unless Kuunavang decides to interupt or Glint runs away)

[Ristaron]

Interesting topic. Dragons has been a hobby of mine for years and tend to favor Eastern world dragons (gothic and medieval) than the Far Eastern Dragons (orient).
Eastern dragons (Glint) were always considered as an evil power, terror-inspiring and warlike.

Far Eastern dragons (Kuunavang) were considered a source of wisdom and a beneficent creature.
Glint (considered god-like) was also created by the Gods of Tyria and the first of all creatures, which means Kuunavang is a child in comparison to Glint. I would not weigh too heavily on the skills you see Glint use in battle, because she also has eons of wisdom to aid her in battle and very well may have powers beyond our comprehension.

In my opinion, Glint will prevail.

My reasoning exactly for saying Glint would prevail.
Also, Glint is 1 level higher ;-)

[Ehrenia]

i saw that but man she is HUGE! lol a 500 lbs person can walk but can they run?

Have you any idea how much an aeroplane weighs on Earth and what an aeroplane does?
Mass is hardly an issue when flying.

[Blazing]

Space Rokets fl & they dont have any wings..wy couldnt glint fly.. y dude y???

^^

Glint is a girl so dont be manly (i never tought i would say this) and let he girl win!

PS for woman:im indeed that sensitive, i would be a rly nice man for yu all.;)

PS for men: dude that wanst true, MAN ABOVE THE WOMAN.:D


^^

[Pick Me]

I vote Glint wins over the Kuunavang, why?

1) Glint has the power of future sight - She can see the skills used and how the battle is won or lost, so she can compensate and predict what skills/spells the Kunnavang will use, even before it is used. Thus, Glint will win.

2) Glint has never been tamed by the Lich nor the White Mantel/Mursaat or the Seer. The Kuunavang has been tamed by Shiro.

3) Glint has defenses vs Physical attacks and vs elemental attacks, the Kuunavang does not.

4) Glint is so powerful and so unique there are no mini-pets of Glint. :)

5) As mentioned before, Glint can summon Facets of herself (she is so powerful, she can destroy those spores with ease)

6) There is an alter dedicated to her, no one really cares about the Kuunavang. :(

7) I think Glint has better AI than the Kuunavang

[lapsus]

no ones wants to condsider the time it would take to create facets..... Kuunavang wasnt tamed by anyone just corrupted.... The harvest temple is Kuunavangs lair..... Future sight would only work until she changes something then she would have to re-see the future with the new choices made... Even though glint maybe able to fly, which is the more manuverable/faster/better a 747 or an F16?

[tomcruisejr]

good voice acting vs bad voice acting. Glint wins.

[some guy]

They both have lame ass voices, so i hope they both die.

Agree, most GW npcs will die too.

[Xaero Gouki Kriegor]

npcs seem to have an ability of talking without moving their lips, this annoys me, i swear, im gonna someday pull out a knife and cut a couple of them out a mouth or two, so they can speak through them, instead of this telepathetic/telekensis psychic voodoo hoodoo speaking

[cataphract]

I Beat Glint with 6 people earlier(me including), to my surprise really.(2 peeps left before reaching Glint)
Amazing really, since 2 of those 6 people noobs, and one was Alesia the healer henchman.

Heres proof: http://www.genebase.com/upload/access.php?id=168390&w=500&h=375

And more:
http://www.genebase.com/upload/access.php?id=168391&w=500&h=375

My monks a cutie aint she. ^^
Anyway the point is, Glint was more easily defeated than Kuunavang.
Hence, my opinion is that, Kuunavang is stronger.
I'd have to disagree. Having killed Glint with 6 people too, and having witnessed the play against Kuunavang I think it's wrong to judge the dragons based on our experience as players who engaged them. The only thing that makes Kuunavang so strong and hard to kill (as players) is the limited space in which you fight him. When he casts his seeds of corruption, there is not much space where you can go to both avoind the degen and do damage to him. That is not the case with Glint - you can run around her lair all you want. Which is kind of crazy, considering you are in a grain of sand. I have no doubt in my mind that Glint is far more smarter than your average pug and would avoid/interrupt the seeds. After all, Kuunavang got pwned by Shiro's corrupted touch and we had to save him. Realizing that Shiro is a pretty big wuss - I'd have to go with Glint on this one.

[cataphract]

Even though glint maybe able to fly, which is the more manuverable/faster/better a 747 or an F16? Mass-wise Kuunavang is sleek and agile and sure looks like he could out-manouver the big old Glint. That's the idea of a F-16 and a 747. But for all we know Glint could well be a Sukhoi 33. ;)

[combatchuck]

I've beaten Glint with myself, one person, and 6 henchies. All you need is Spinal Shivers and a warrior with an icy sword.

[Franco]

I say Glint would win because I dont like factions and I think if kuunavang got pwned by Shiro he cant be too hard, cuz I dont like Shiro either :p Not to mention Glint is tecnically a God, and kuunavang is just a dragon that gets corrupted by a playboy ninja ex bodyguard. lol

[Paul Mahdi]

I'd say Glint because I like Tyria much more then Cantha. Kuunavang sucks. Although, I do like those special skills he gave us during the last mis- No, Glint is better.

I don't think this thread is interesting enough, lets throw Shiro, the Lich, the Frog, and Undead Rurik into the fray. I would pay to see that battle.

[Eldin]

I'd say Glint because I like Tyria much more then Cantha. Kuunavang sucks. Although, I do like those special skills he gave us during the last mis- No, Glint is better.

I don't think this thread is interesting enough, lets throw Shiro, the Lich, the Frog, and Undead Rurik into the fray. I would pay to see that battle.
Rofl! Great idea. Oh, let's throw in Carlotta too - she's so cute!

Let's see now...

Match 1: Shiro vs Lich

The "playboy ninja" shows the Lich some pr0n, and since the Lich is undead and can't...well...you know, he enters a depression and runs away crying. Shiro Wins

Match 2: The Frog vs Undead Rurik

The Frog blinds Rurik with his golden text, but Rurik adds the frog to his ignore list! Nobody wins, as the Frog can't attack, but he can't be targeted ingame either.

[X The Nomad X]

I'd say Glint because I like Tyria much more then Cantha. Kuunavang sucks. Although, I do like those special skills he gave us during the last mis- No, Glint is better.

I don't think this thread is interesting enough, lets throw Shiro, the Lich, the Frog, and Undead Rurik into the fray. I would pay to see that battle.


The Lich destroys all, well, in the battle of Shiro, and Undead Rurik, at least.

[Tommy]

Glint is probably stronger because she got one higher lvl and she got her facets and forgottens protecting her. Glint's minions would probably pwn Kuv. before Kuc can even get closed to Glint.
enchanted and forgottens got slightly higher lvl than affics right? so Glint pwn them all:)!

[Sephiroth Istari]

For me Glint was harder to kill and she's 1 level higher.

[SilintNinjya]

Steping outside of the box for a moment, i hope they make a glint mini- pet :) ..

that would rock.

[kang]

I'd say that lore wise glint would win

but PvE wise I would say Kuunavang for this reason
when I fought glint: I had just ascended, full 8 man party, breezed through the mission and killed glint without looking, at this time I was so much of a noob I wasn't even a W/Mo....

when I fought Kuunavang: Due to lack of people henchway seemed to be the order of the day and I never managed to even get to fighting glint at the end....then I finally got a full human 16 man team and even then it was still a challenge worthly of mention.....until we got inco close quarters and out 4 warriors got close :D

Personally I would want Glint to win

[beltran13579]

what about glint vs shiro they are both lvl 31

[arcanemacabre]

Definately lore-wise, Glint, hands down.

Kuunavang was corrupted, and turned against the heroes, but still couldn't prevail in a battle. He mindlessly gave it all he had, with evil fervor, to no avail. Glint was just mildly peeved that someone grabbed one of her eggs, even then she went easy on the heroes, not killing them, but just showing them who's boss. I'd hate to see a corrupted Glint... there'd be no Crystal Desert left.

[Tark Alkerk]

imo glint would win hands down,
due to the fact that just about everyone has beaten kunnie where as that is not so with glint.
also glint is the first therefore the best, kunnie is just a immposter.

[Electric Sky]

Although i like Kuunavang more, the truth is, Glint is gonna pwn him :(

[PanGammon]

Kuunie has super lame voice acting but she has a lot more firepower than Glint. Besides Kuunavang gives you Celestial Skills. Glint gives like 1000XP for all your hard work

[Electric Sky]

if only we could keep the celestial skills, celestial storm is so much fun to use.

[Bokocasso]

I think Kuunavang would hit on Glint and they are going to have children and live happily ever after.

[beltran13579]

well u can solo the glint as far as i can tell you cant solo kuunavang

[Seraphim of Chaos]

Thanks for replying to this. More opinions appreciated!

[Seskimo72]

I would think that Glint would be able to crush Kunnie's spores with ease. Not having those spores would be a big hurt for Kuunie.

[Thibor]

I gotta say Glint. The original. The baddest!

[Cow Tale]

suppose halfway throw the battle Gwen shows up and throws flowers at them and they are taken back by this and make peace? or on the other hand, they take a short break to devour Gwen, then get back to buisness and then have to call it quits cause they get stomach craps from eating too much sweets. since girls are made up of sugar, spice and everything nice. XD

[Tera]

hehe, Glint FTW!
corrupted glint... thats would be the end of the world...
and glint vs shiro? hehe, she'd crush the traitor with one foot :D
shiro pancakes any1? xD

[AlienFromBeyond]

Glint would win because of Crystal Haze and Crystal Hibernation. Crystal Haze would exhaust Kuunavang eventually, and Crystal Hibernation would let Glint survive from Dark Chain Lightning.

[Greby]

We will win it by our self :P we had to kill Glint and Kuunavang and i gauss a lot of people have defeat them both.

[Aztec Mijo]

glint didn't want to kill you either, dead chosen ones dont fulfill prophecies.

so maybe she held back a ton.

[Franco]

Glint is my favorite

[Rex the Unloving]

My vote goes to Glint. But if Glint and Kuunavang were to combine... the name would be .... Kuunanint, or Gluunavang... i dunno.

[Guildmaster Cain]

Glint can be solo'ed while Kuunavang can't.

It's not solo, but I came pretty darn close, Eve just did a lot of BR which I really didnt need...

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[TopGun]

I hope Nightfall has a dragon.

[Timeless Logic]

I think the most critical aspects of such an analysis are setting and characterization. Glint was created for a certain purpose, and acts out her role in a certain area among certain conditions. The same is true for Kuunavang, but her skills and purpose are different, and as such comparing the two seems difficult, at best. Because Glint's primary role was that of guide and aid to the Chosen of Tyria, she places the survival of the heroes above her own anger at being attacked. This Glint is polar to the Kuunavang corrupted by Shiro Tagachi, a very manic and aggressive dragon who excels and revels in combat. Once released, however, Kuunavang is dedicated to defeating Shiro, and aids the heroes in doing so. Now, why is all this important?

First of all, based on the above statements, Glint and Kuunavang would most likely never fight under normal circumstances. Kuunavang is too removed to come into contact with Glint, and even were this to happen, Glint would most likely refrain from doing battle in order to maintain the balance brought to Tyria by the Chosen. The exception to this would be if Kuunavang were herself a threat to the balance, but since she is fairly quickly released from Shiro's corruption, this is unlikely.

Based on in-game skillsets and experience, I would rule in favor of Kuunavang as a likely victor. Her offensive capabilities seem to surpass those of Glint. Yet we don't know much about Glint's defensive capabilities, so the battle could very well take a 180-degree turn. There is much left to be discovered, and I think it's foolish to conduct this debate solely from the angle of gameplay. Such reports rely heavily on point of view, which is in turn heavily dependent on the actions of other team members. A discussion of this type of lore requires inference and outside contemplation in addition to screenshots and statistics. My interpretation of the lore causes me to rule in favor of Glint from that perspective.

Timeless

P.S. This is my first post in the Lore forum, but I've been lurking for a while and I'll be posting quite often from now on. :ninja:

[Nortos]

Gwen wins she pwns them all!

[Sophitia Leafblade]

Well id say Glint cause although Kuuvaang has probally some more potent AoE skills, Glints more single target approach with her stance and crystal haze would own him not to mention her Massive normal attacks both Melee and Ranged do huge damage. Either way fear not, the mighty dragon slayers will be there to slay the winner (if we managed to resist attacking before the fight ends ;) )