Let us know what you think!

[Spooky]

As you can see by now, we've got most of the site up. However - due to changes in the NDA, we're a bit limited on the content that we can add until the BWE rolls around, but we'd like to be prepared for it when it does happen - so I ask this:

What would you like to see added to the site?
Anything else you'd like to say about what's already there?

[Crispie]

Add more pics! I was pleased with the format you guys layed out for the site, but was disapointed to find that there was no pics of creatures, armors, etc! Hopefully after this next BWE you guys will have that stuff up :)

[Cicciro]

Looks great guys, I'll give it the indepth go over later :)

[Darc.Syde]

ill post something when i got something to say... :p

[Sausaletus Rex]

Thanks for all the kind words so far.

Add more pics! I was pleased with the format you guys layed out for the site, but was disapointed to find that there was no pics of creatures, armors, etc! Hopefully after this next BWE you guys will have that stuff up

Yes, screenshots are hard to come by outside of the BWEs. And even then most people are more interested in, you know, playing than in snapping shot after shot of different armors and monsters. But, don't worry, next BWE we'll be sure to gather as many as we can while the NDA is lifted. In the meantime, you can check out our gallery (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/gallery/) which we hope to add to a bit, too, in coming days.

[Weezer_Blue]

Very good! But I think Marksman's Wager is supposed to be Elite. (check your skills list) :D

[THX]

Thanks, I made it elite :).

We will be updating the skills throughout the week (NDA permitting).

[Weezer_Blue]

Thanks, I made it elite :).

We will be updating the skills throughout the week (NDA permitting).


awesome. this is probably gonna be my next "hmm i need to make a build where should i look for the skills?" site.

[Reaper2k3]

im just posting, like the old school kind of style though

[Sesshomaru]

The color scheme is very nice guys.
-claps-

[bobert]

awesome site, like it very much :)

[Exception]

the site is awesome. the information is detailed, and there's a lot of stuff i haven't seen on the other fansites, such as listings of the npcs in every city, and the explorable areas every city is linked to. also, navigation is clear and very well designed imo. i'm not sure if it would be a violation of the NDA, but i've always wanted to see maps to the bosses.

[Spooky]

As Saus said, we'll be adding in a lot of missing images right after the BWE, so any of the places where you might see a [?] skill image (or one of the old images), it won't be that way for long.
We're going to flesh out that images for creatures as well - so hopefully they aren't feeling too camera shy - we've got a lot of shutterbugging to do.
But again - thanks for all the kind words so far. A lot of time and effort has gone into this site, but reading what people have to say has made it worth it.

[BlackArrow]

Great site guys!

I have pics of Mind Burn, Water Trident, Illusionary Weaponry, Echo, and Clumsiness for the Dec BWE if you want to use them in your skill lists. The quality might not be good enough though.

[Draxonfly]

Hey Guys, the site looks great, good to see you all still kicking strong in the Guild Wars Community.

As for sugestions to the site, I have none, it is looking good, and I am eager to see what you get up after the next beta weekend. :)

[SpineLok]

Fantastic job fellas. I was going to post my comments on the Guild Hall forums but the thread was closed. Any how, I must say that I really appriciate all the info this site offers. I will definitely be frequenting this site for all my technical info. Keep up the great work!! :D

This Site ROCKS!!

Just checked out the Bosses Section... Its great, very well laid out, and I love how you have links from the boss pages to their corresponding areas in Tyra. Can't wait to see more!

[Shinsei]

Great site!

As for things i would like to see on the site....well, I've always been a big fan of the Korean flash work they all manage to overload their sites with. Would be nice to see a neat little flash menu, or a maybe just as a welcome page to the main site (not the forum). Ofcourse this is far from a priority, would just be a neat little addition. Seems like you covered all the content tbh. Good work.

[IceD'Bear]

Great site by great people, I realy like it :)

And the arcade, whooo :D

The only thing I don't like about the site is the skill list, you have to click to much to see all the skill details. I prefer it the way Knight Templars (http://www.knights-templar.com/professions.htm) have it, you can quickly browse trough skills.

[Necrotic]

I think you folks are doing a great job so far...I especially like the earth tones, it makes it much easier on the eyes to read here....as opposed to another forum I frequent.

[LoneDust]

Good work on the contents and layout. They look really neat and clean. I'm book marking this place as well :)

I have to agree with IceD'Bear on the skill listing. It feels like right now the effort required to view the skills is excessive. You have to do a lot of clicking to see skill detail, and you have to open seperate tabs to compare skills from another attribute.

[GhostRaptor]

As expected when I found out who was helping out with this site ... great work, very detailed. Really excellent work. The only thing I'd comment on is that in many of the sections there is a lot of clicking involved to get to what you want, which isn't ideal.

[Diablo]

Nice work on the site, goodluck with it. :)

[Cicciro]

As one of the more informative sites out there, you have already taken on quite the task. However, I offer you a challenge. One of the best fan sites for an MMORPG ever created was uo.stratics.com. Players submitted many guides over the years dedicated to each individual skill. There are tables for everything you could imagine. The site is soley informative for Ultima Online, and in my opinion, it hasn't been matched since.

Most of the information has changed over the years so a lot of the guides were updated by non-original writers or removed, but new ones have popped up.

http://uo.stratics.com

It was the official UO information site as far as the players were concerned. It was where you sent new players. It was where you went when you couldn't remember something. The forums left something to be desired, but class specific forums and skill specific forums were always topped off with as much information as you could want.

If you want to strive to reach that, I applaud you. If not, this is still a great site which I see growing greatly in the future. Good luck guys!

[Narcism]

Site looks great.. though.. one of my pet peeves would be how long it takes to get to the skill database, the words are so small and similar it takes too long to find out about a skill (imo).

But great job!

[Sicarius Eneco]

Great job on the site, cept for some missing pics like menioned before. Very informative site this goes to my favorites right away.

I hope the future of this site will be very bright :)

[Sausaletus Rex]

As one of the more informative sites out there, you have already taken on quite the task. However, I offer you a challenge. One of the best fan sites for an MMORPG ever created was uo.stratics.com. Players submitted many guides over the years dedicated to each individual skill. There are tables for everything you could imagine. The site is soley informative for Ultima Online, and in my opinion, it hasn't been matched since.

That's not a bad site to try and emulate, no. The problem right now though is that tricky NDA. Remember Stratics operated in an environment with a game past release. Our game here is still in development and the information we can release about it is limited. We have a wealth of information, probably the most information that any developing game has ever allowed to be made public but we can't write walkthroughs or publish mission maps and a lot of other things that we'd like to do, not until the game is released.

Not only that, the information is subject to a lot of change. Say someone wrote a guide to Ascalon City back around E3? Do you know how many changes the place has gone through since then? I don't, I can't even remember what the place was called way back when, but every time the city changed you'd have to rewrite that article. It's a lot of work to keep something like that up-to-date and I think most sites don't bother with much more than the surface information given how volitile the game still is. Why bother to really dig into things if you're not sure they'll still be the same tomorrow? And why dig since you can't really talk about it fully anyway due to the NDA?

That said, however, what we've done here is to create a framework which we can fill later on. Our CMS (that's the main page with our armor compendium and skills database and more) is easy to add to and expand. We can easily include walkthroughs and area maps and detailed skill breakdowns and the rest once we actually can have them. Right now, because we have to skimp on the details due to the NDA and all, we're concentrating elsewhere. We can't break the latest skill updates or talk about, say, that nifty Old Ascalon area but what we can do is talk about things like strategy, like how to make a build, like what are the mechanics that underpin the game, so that and more is what we're working on right now. Not the precise details that someone playing day in and day out would need but the sort of background information that will help people get better at playing the game. As for what we'll do in the future I'll just say that we've got plans and ambitions around here and hopefully you'll all like the results.

Site looks great.. though.. one of my pet peeves would be how long it takes to get to the skill database, the words are so small and similar it takes too long to find out about a skill (imo).

Hey, Narc. Nice to see you here.

Yes, searching throgh the CMS can take a bit of getting used to because it's mostly text baesed at the moment. Maybe in the future we'll have a more graphics intensive front or index page to help people hop around as well as some places where it's easy to get information at a glance (There's no pages yet that would, for example, let you see every skill an Elementalist can learn. It's all chopped up into attribute lines). However, you can increase the font size on your browser so the words are easier to read, that can help.

[Inde]

Site looks great.. though.. one of my pet peeves would be how long it takes to get to the skill database, the words are so small and similar it takes too long to find out about a skill (imo).

We will add a page that lets you see all skills - both by profession and by category - on one page. Its a bit tricky to create so give us a bit of time on that :)

[Adessia]

Congratulations on your new site! Looks great, clean design, easy to follow. You guys have a great staff and I love the arcade. What a perfect little side feature for a gaming site. Something to pass the hours away waiting for the new BWE!!

Adessia

[BBB]

As you can see by now, we've got most of the site up. However - due to changes in the NDA, we're a bit limited on the content that we can add until the BWE rolls around, but we'd like to be prepared for it when it does happen - so I ask this:

What would you like to see added to the site?
Anything else you'd like to say about what's already there?

Mission Guides :D

And Mapping of Different missions and explorable areas like what type of monsters you'll find and if theres any bosses and if there is a boss what skills does it use etc etc etc. Plus all the things other Fansites have.

Could also have PvP guides and GvG guides so basicly you map each level and like explain whats good about it??? :confused: meh idk
You could also like pimp Ensign out and let people hire him for GvG's and stuff LMFAO i know i'd pay atleast a minor vigor rune to have him on my team ;)

And general guides too etc from the newbies and erm stuff and err more stuff and errmm like a downloads section with like things you can download in... yea...

And if you include any of my great ideas you gotta have a little with thanks to bbb for his great idea.

[Aladdar]

mission guides are planned, but as stated we can't really do much with that until closer to release as things are changing every time you turn around.

We do have boss information though here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/bosses-of-tyria-id30.php

check it out.

[BBB]

mission guides are planned,
Yea.... i bet they're planned now....

.php? thats a virus!!111

[Spooky]

One of the best fan sites for an MMORPG ever created was uo.stratics.com.

I used to work there myself, I believe I was there for somewhere around a year.

As for mission guides: There's only so much detail that we're allowed to give, we can keep things mostly general such as they are now .. but an actual walkthrough is offlimits, according to Gaile.

[Eragon]

Awesome site, awesome members, what else could one ask for? Oh that's right, can I have a cookie?

[bobert]

maybe y'all could put up more forum boards?

like strageties (maybe even class specific)
or a suggestion board for the site and/or GW itself

i think that there are a lot of other board topics that can be made, but i just threw out a couple.

awesome site btw ;)

[Spooky]

We'll most likely be adding more forums as time goes on, but getting a board started at first can be a slow process. If we have too many forums, things get spread a little too thin and are likely to remain inactive. Once we're at a point where we can foster and sustain things, then we can spread out a little more.

[Firax]

I poked around the site alittle bit, and I must say I'm impressed. That's alot of information.

Concidering NDA, my only complaint is that I keep trying to click on the little images next to the text... and nothing happens. (Make them into links? Please? :) )

~Firax

[THX]

Bobert, I believe, for the moment, we are going to keep the number of boards relatively limited. We'd like to have the information centralized in one main forum instead of distributing the discussions into various categories. The way I see it, many posts/threads get lost in shuffle if they are not located in the "popular" section, we can circumvent this rather easily with a semi-central forum; it also might encourage quality participation.
If we notice a feeling of clutter, we will add the necessary categories. This may be referred to as one of our many test projects :)

Firax, I'm going to try and link the images. I cannot promise anything though :)

[Aladdar]

I guess you could say we're in open beta now.

God I'm a nerd.

[FrogDevourer]

Glad to see interesting and knowledgeable people for a change. I was bored of reading the same threads again and again in other boards.

The site looks great. Lots of interesting information. Keep up the good work !

Small comment : getting to the information is sometimes long and clumsy (lots of clicks involved). You can't display a whole skill profession/tree. I like to compare similar skills (e.g : Air spells). So my suggestion would be to add larger skill lists (or complex requests by profession or trees...) to the skill-specific pages.

Just one minor question. Your list shows that Stone Daggers has been updated on December 31, 2004. As far as I can recall, there is a newer version on gwonline with no recharge time. Right ? Well, I guess the skill update is already on its way.

[THX]

We will be making some of the content appear in full fledged lists as soon as we get the technical side sorted. As for the skills, they are due for an update; probably will get an overhaul later this week. The date presented is a bit misleading though, it does not indicate when the last update occurred; merely when the skill was originally added (i.e., it is pretty pointless). So, I suppose it is something else we will need to alter :)

[Ensign]

Remember also that skill changes are happening all the time, and right now those changes are often considered leaks. Stone Daggers is one of those cases, as is the elite status of Marksman's Wager. Those particular tidbits might be perfectly ok, and they might not be. The point is that our admins can't just hop in game and check a skill for you like they could a month ago. Now skill updates are done during BWEs, and from questionable leaks. You don't have to like that policy, but that's what Gaile has decreed, and since people with original access to the information are under NDA we don't have a choice in this matter.

Basically, just look at the skill lists to get a general idea of what a skill does, but don't trust the numbers, because they very well could have changed but no one can tell you.

Peace,
-CxE

[Inde]

Awesome site, awesome members, what else could one ask for? Oh that's right, can I have a cookie?

Sorry no - I need those cookies to keep programming.

[cpukilla]

The site looks great, good information all around. Can't wait to see what pops up here once you can actually post everything :)

[BBB]

If you like you could tell me some stuff and as i'm not tied down by an NDA i'll leak it for you. good aye?

[Rage321]

Sup; wanted to say that this site rocks. Colors are great, plenty of information for everyone and a very solid effort. I look forward to more GWGuru goodness in the future =)

[Weezer_Blue]

I think a great additon would to put


"The release date is "Early 2005"! Any other dates are guesses"


In big, bold, rainbow-y, size 72, flashing letters. :D ... you know someones going to ask sooner or later. and then you can go "woohoo! our site is prospering! Even people that are asking about the release date know about it!"

[Oracle]

What a welcome breath of fresh air. That other site was so totally past its sell-by date, this one couldn't have come soon enough! A big relief, keep up the good work.

[Liquid]

Nice site guys & Spooky, you seem to have struck gold! :D

Looking forward to the next beta arriving so you can get the rest of ur content in place.

Like the mild colours and overall design...Keep up the good work!! ;)

[Tantor]

I realy like the format and color selection here. More importantly, The amount of information is absolutely mind boggleing!!!. You guys have out done yourselves here IMO. I wish I could just retain all that I read here. The 70's were tough on me...lol

[Kui]

<insert site praise here>

Do item Mods/Upgrade items fall under the current NDA? A listing of them all would be nifty as such things don't tend to change as much as others. [And most data is usually re-usable]

~Kui

[IceD'Bear]

Do item Mods/Upgrade items fall under the current NDA? A listing of them all would be nifty as such things don't tend to change as much as others. [And most data is usually re-usable]
Currently everything falls under the NDA, and the mods/upgrades do change ;)

[Narcism]

The first rule of the NDA is - you do not talk about the NDA. The second rule of the NDA is - you DO NOT talk about the NDA.

[Kui]

Fie. I take it that wondering what the NDA looks like is even a no-no.

Ah well, I suppose that compiling said list and tossing up in two weeks is acceptable too. Though you've already likely compiled the list. Hrm. *dig* *dig* Is it even possible to say whether such a list is already compiled? [And save myself the foraging about for data during the BWE]

~Kui

[Scrivener]

It is just so hard to talk about *anything* at the moment. So many posts I think "if only they knew" or "gee it's a shame they don't know that it's pointless to argue about that" or "wow that guess was right on target". I've edited many posts due to getting worried - I've even posted something, switched off the computer, gone to bed, gotten worried, gotten back up and edited my post.

One thing I will say is that I get more and more impressed with the art department as the weeks go by.

[Aladdar]

I agree, I keep seeing posts where they're just wishing something was in game and I know that it is or isn't coming and I wish I could tell them, but nope. No can do.

[Sausaletus Rex]

Fie. I take it that wondering what the NDA looks like is even a no-no.

The NDA looks like a sheet of paper with some words on it and your signature at the bottom. It's nothing really unusual, it's just a matter of how it's interpreted, really. In the past it was okay to talk about nearly *everything*. Then, when the content for the BWEs was introduced you couldn't "spoil" things by talking about them beforehand. Then, when content outside the BWEs was introduced you couldn't talk about that. Now, it's very difficult to talk about any concrete details from within the game so much so that we won't. Including what it is we can and can't talk about because people might be able to piece something together from a list of dos and don'ts.

Ah well, I suppose that compiling said list and tossing up in two weeks is acceptable too. Though you've already likely compiled the list. Hrm. *dig* *dig* Is it even possible to say whether such a list is already compiled? [And save myself the foraging about for data during the BWE]

We're in the process of compiling a list. We're probably also going to have to recruit "volunteers" to help us out with the gathering of data because of how much their likely is. But, in general there are a few things we're going to want :

Screenshots. The more the better of everything and anything that might be useful.
Skills. We'll want to try and track down every skill and get the most current information about it as well as the graphical icon (At least, I'm sure a few of us wouldn't mind seeing a few casting animations for one project or another).
Armor. We'll want to try and track down every set of armor as well as a picture of the male and female sets (Fortunately, most armors don't change as you level so you just need the 2 times the 30 odd lv20 armors, for the most part and you can reuse things). Pictures of how dyes affect armor would be nice to have, too.
Areas. We'll want to find out the relevant information about all the publically available areas as well as try and get screenshots of what they look like, what the maps look like, and probably even a world map, as well.
Monsters. We'll want to try and track down as many monsters as we can to see if our information is up to date and to try and get a picture of them.
Runes. We'll want to try and track down as many runes as possible so we can get pictures and see if our information is still accurate.
Weapons. We'll want an example of each weapon "type" (Ie the long sword, the short sword, the scimitar, whatever the sword category breaks down into) for the images and probably a lot of them to see if they have any interesting wrinkles (do long swords average more damage than scimitars but have a different chance for mods? Who knows? But we'd like to.) as well as what sort of additional benefits you can get from mods and upgrades so we can compile a list of those.
Salvage Items. We'll want pictures and info about all the coal and iron and wood and whatever else there is. We'd also like to know the chances of an item salvaging into a specific salvaged item.
Equations. We'd like to test out our understanding of the damage equations and other formula like Fast Casting or Expertise's progression or how a height advantage affects your bow shot or whether enchantments are FIFO or LIFO and lots of other small but important details.


That's a lot of things - and I'm sure the list will only grow - and we'd *like* to get to all of them but we'd like to play the game and have fun, too. The BWEs are a blast for us alphas, too, you know. And there's only so many of us, there's only so much we can do. We've been busy launching and all so we haven't had much thought devoted to it just yet (we're more concerned with what we can do just now and in-between the BWEs to provide content and interesting things) but as the BWE draws nearer we'll likely draw up a list and prioritize and start asking who wants to do what. Anyone who'd like to help us out is more than welcome to, of course.

[IceD'Bear]

The first rule of the NDA is - you do not talk about the NDA. The second rule of the NDA is - you DO NOT talk about the NDA.
And why are you then talking about it AND about the rules IN it? Bad boy Narc :eek:

[Uthar]

I'd like to see more Kitty Ears around the place- really, Spooky, I expected better of you. :)

Um, just something to be really lazy- if you could have a link in the bosses' pages from the skills they have to the page about that skill, that would save me the trouble- oh the pain! The agony!- of opening another tab and going through the skills listings.

Just a suggestion if you want to appeal to the truly lazy. :)

Oh, and nice spot y'all have around here.

[Kui]

We're in the process of compiling a list. We're probably also going to have to recruit "volunteers" to help us out with the gathering of data because of how much their likely is.

I'm sure it goes without saying, but I favor redundancy whenever it doesn't hurt - Post said list when it's all hashed out. I'll be mining information when the BWE rolls around on my own and I'd be pleased to contribute my findings. Suppose I'll work on those already posted for now.

~Kui

[Spooky]

About posting weapon modifiers - I've got a bunch of these, and I believe Freyas has an even more comprehensive listing of them available, we just need to wait until the BWE to double check that our information is still accurate before we can add them.

About bosses / skills - all of their seperate, more detailed pages should include links to the skills they use. Are some of these missing? If so, it won't take much to get them fixed.

[Kui]

Another thing I'd like to see as a quick forum navigation aid - Toss in a redundant link to the forum directories [ie. Guild Wars Guru Forum > The Inner Circle > The Riverside Inn] at the bottom of each thread page.

[Freyas]

I collected a bunch of data on item modifiers and upgrades, but that was right before the NDA lockdown a couple weeks ago, and thus I haven't posted them anywhere so as not to risk an NDA breach. That is one thing that I plan on trying to work on during the BWE.

However- if anybody feels up to keeping track of item modifiers for stuff, it could help out, as there's no guarantee that we'll be able to find all of the possible modifiers on equipment. Probably the biggest area that I could use help is if you wanted to keep track of the negative modifiers that you can find with the positive modifiers, such as what all negative modifiers are used to balance out increased damage or increased attack speed.

[Uthar]

On the bosses-skills links, the only one I know about is Rrrack Whitefire (Ascalon- Ft. Ranik). Heavier testing about to commence.

Matter of fact, all the bosses' personal pages in the Ft. Ranik listing have no links in their skills listing to the details of said skills.

[Sausaletus Rex]

Another thing I'd like to see as a quick forum navigation aid - Toss in a redundant link to the forum directories [ie. Guild Wars Guru Forum > The Inner Circle > The Riverside Inn] at the bottom of each thread page.

We do have the forum jump drop down at the bottom there (At least on each thread's page, I don't see it here on the reply page...). I think that serves much the same purpose, doesn't it?

[Fezz]

We're in the process of compiling a list. We're probably also going to have to recruit "volunteers" to help us out with the gathering of data because of how much their likely is.

I will do my best to fill the rest of my harddrive in hopes of getting a pic of something that yall do not already have.

Can we change the command for Screenshots?

[Dreamsmith]

Skills. We'll want to try and track down every skill and get the most current information about it as well as the graphical icon (At least, I'm sure a few of us wouldn't mind seeing a few casting animations for one project or another).
One thing I would really really like to see is a skill list with places where the skill may be obtained. Perhaps just adding this information to the current skill list. Everytime I mention this desire, people point out the list of skill trainers and bosses, which is, of course, the exact opposite of what I'm asking for. I want to be able to look up a skill and see where to get it from, not sift through a bunch of lists sorted unhelpfully by trainer or boss name, searching for a particular skill.

By the way, I just saw the DPS/Skill Effectiveness Guide by Charles Ensign. Just freaking awesome. This is now my #1 source for game information. Love it, thanks a million for being online!

[Weezer_Blue]

This site is simply the best as far as information goes. Unfortunatly there aren't as many people around on the forums (well... less idiots i guess ;) ).

Anyway, I agree that when you click on a skill it should tell you exactly where you can find it. What bosses in which area or from which skill trainer.

[Sleeky101]

Anyway, I agree that when you click on a skill it should tell you exactly where you can find it. What bosses in which area or from which skill trainer.

If you go to the bottom of any info page, there is a "search in category" option. Just type in the skill you want to find the location of and it will bring it up if it is then database. Granted, you have to get through other articles that mention the skill, but you can still find the trainer/boss you are looking for that way.

And as a suggestion- Possibly a character builder that allows you to select skills and attributes, and then does all the calculations for you showing you the 8 skills' effects at the given attribute.

[Sausaletus Rex]

Can we change the command for Screenshots?

You mean the hotkey button for it? I have no idea. But, I believe you can open the options menu even when you're not logged in. Check the commands in there you can alter and if screenshots is one of them, yes. If not, probably not.

One thing I would really really like to see is a skill list with places where the skill may be obtained. Perhaps just adding this information to the current skill list. Everytime I mention this desire, people point out the list of skill trainers and bosses, which is, of course, the exact opposite of what I'm asking for. I want to be able to look up a skill and see where to get it from, not sift through a bunch of lists sorted unhelpfully by trainer or boss name, searching for a particular skill.

That's something I'd like to see, too. We have plans for adding such information but we'd like to wait until the BWE to cross-check all our information and make sure it's up to date. Lots to do between then and now and we'd rather not have to do it all over again. Beyond that, we'd also like to figure out a better way of doing things than just adding an extra line to each skill description. It's a matter of keeping the workload when doing updates to a minimum. We want to have to change as few pages as possible. So if we can find a way to have each skill page update with its locations whenever we update a skill trainer or boss or vice versa we're going to have a much easier time of having to go through and correct everything by hand. It's not going to be easy to do all that, of course, but that's why we have code monkies.

Er, very nice and intelligent people who know their ways around a line of code, yes, that's what I meant to say...

By the way, I just saw the DPS/Skill Effectiveness Guide by Charles Ensign. Just freaking awesome. This is now my #1 source for game information. Love it, thanks a million for being online!

You're welcome and it's, of course, very encouraging to hear all this praise. Thanks for the support, it's much appreciated.

The whole Guides section in the CMS is just chock full of goodness. Not only is Ensign's Skill Effectiveness Guide there but so's his treatise on game mechanics (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content/game-mechanics-id674.php). And just so his head doesn't swell further there's stuff by other people, too! (Which reminds me, I've got to get my own stuff up there one of these days) Check out Spooky's guide to playing a Fire Ele (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content/how-to-start-a-fire-id1044.php) when Chuck's math starts to make your eyeballs bleed. There's also some good quick reference material like THX's Basic Profession Statistics (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content/base-profession-statistics-id1086.php) which'll tell you all you ever wanted to know about starting and ending energy, armor, and more in one easy package.

And as a suggestion- Possibly a character builder that allows you to select skills and attributes, and then does all the calculations for you showing you the 8 skills' effects at the given attribute.

A character builder would be great. If we can get the sort of dynamic content updating system I'm talking about up and running there's little reason why we couldn't make a little program that would go out grab the skills, armor, weapons, and more that you'd want when putting together a character. And something more complex, showing you not only the basic skill information but what that character would also do (Why stop at just the skill variables? Why not include some things like a rough DPS output or energy flow when casting skills a through x or predicted damage when hit by the average Warrior, average Ranger, and average Elementalist?).

And, well, I'll bounce an idea off of *you*. What if such a character builder wasn't just a program but a database? Where you could create a build and then save it and call it up later. Not only could you call up your build, you could also make it public so that anyone using the character builder could call it up and play around to make and save their own version, too. You could use it like a traditional character builder but also as a resource. A way of seeing the possible and potential builds that are out there or to try and tweak the FOtM in addition to seeing how your own build works. Would something like that be a feature you'd like to see somewhere?

[Draken]

Calculators for everything and anything would be a cool addition mabye a character builder of sorts but what im really looking for i guess is some links to recourses like that.

Oh and sometimes i dont know what skill line a skill is in so a list of all skills in alphabetical order as another option would be nice. Mabye even in the form of a database with class, skill line, skill name and skill type as parameters to query a list of skills. Just throwing out ideas :)

Edit: also if you could corralate where a skill can be found bosses/vendors into the skill list users would have to do less searching cuz im really really lazy.

[Bobangry]

Searching scores in the arcade by time ('most recent' specifically) would be neat to see how people are doing currently without searching through 100+ pages (I'm looking at you Snake!). Search by user wouldn't be bad either but I'd really appreciate a Time based one.

[FrogDevourer]

I agree, I keep seeing posts where they're just wishing something was in game and I know that it is or isn't coming and I wish I could tell them, but nope. No can do.

So many posts I think "if only they knew" or "gee it's a shame they don't know that it's pointless to argue about that" or "wow that guess was right on target".

Teasing a crowd of addicts with withdrawal suffering symptoms is very dangerous, you know.
/sigh

[IceD'Bear]

Teasing a crowd of addicts with withdrawal suffering symptoms is very dangerous, you know.
/sigh
Yes, it is. But it's fun too :P

[Harley]

I think your layout is the best of all the sites. I never really join sites but liked your layout so much that I joined.
The only thing I thought would be nice is that in the builds section (as it grows) there would be a way to select by profession - then see the builds -- ie select Warrior then have a choice to select all the builds in the section by primary and secondary.

But regardless of what you do - this site Rocks!!!
Harley D.

[Aladdar]

I think we'll get there eventually.

[Xapti]

Great resource of information. Nice site design. Color scheme goes good with my windows scheme. nicely done.

[Gaile Gray]

I agree with everyone else. This site is very well-designed, and simply packed with information and unique content. As to NDA's and disclosures and so forth, in just a few more days you guys on the site staff will be able to gather information and create even more site assets. I hope that visitors will join in with you to help you gather what you need, be it stats, screenshots, or other information.

It's great to have you as part of the Guild Wars family! :)

[Zaklex]

At the rate you're going here this will soon be the only site I need to open up in firefox, oh well, won't have so many tabs to go through anymore.

[efiloN]

I have been inactive in the Guild Wars community for a few days now thanks to Everquest 2 and lack of Beta World Event. So I take a look at the latest Fansite Friday, and what do I see! This amazing site.

Keep up with adding pictures for the skills and all of that.
How long has this site been up? It got loads of stuff on it.

Great avatar Aladdar, I just recently reinstalled Baldurs Gate.
Good stuff. :D

[Jak o]

Now that I am here I might as well say what everyone else has said, this site looks great, and has some great content.

I have been waiting for a while for this site to get up, because I really missed some of the great things that used to be on other fansites untill they lost some of their best people. Great to see them all gathered here, so that I now only have to check out one fansite :)

[Spooky]

How long has this site been up? It got loads of stuff on it.

Not even a week yet, we opened it up this past weekend. Though by my estimation, it took us somewhere in the neighborhood of two months to gather all the data and put the site together to get to this point.
And once again - thanks to all for the kind words, I can assure you that they are very much appreciated.

[Sleeky101]

And, well, I'll bounce an idea off of *you*. What if such a character builder wasn't just a program but a database? Where you could create a build and then save it and call it up later. Not only could you call up your build, you could also make it public so that anyone using the character builder could call it up and play around to make and save their own version, too. You could use it like a traditional character builder but also as a resource. A way of seeing the possible and potential builds that are out there or to try and tweak the FOtM in addition to seeing how your own build works. Would something like that be a feature you'd like to see somewhere?

That would be wonderful, but if you really want to go all out- A build database where other users are able to rate and post their comments about certain builds. That way, a user can easily see what people think are the best builds at the moment. Or they could use multiple search functions. For example- searching for the highest ranked build that uses strength, sword, and blood attributes.

[Belidon]

I agree with everyone else. This site is very well-designed, and simply packed with information and unique content. As to NDA's and disclosures and so forth, in just a few more days you guys on the site staff will be able to gather information and create even more site assets. I hope that visitors will join in with you to help you gather what you need, be it stats, screenshots, or other information.

It's great to have you as part of the Guild Wars family! :)

I must agree with Gaile, I love the high detailed design of your site, Guild Wars Guru does offer a lot of content. I must congratulate you guys with gathering all that information about guildwars, there was even stuff I didn't know... And I'm part of the community for over.. 1,5 years? Yeah I think it was something like that. Anyway, I wish you good luck with your site.

[Unik]

Amazing work to all, very well designed and informative site. I have no doubt that if you keep the level of quality as high trough time as you offer us today, your site will have great success.

Thanks and good luck.

Unik

[Cynical Crab]

Very well designed, lots of great and useful info. You truly are Gurus.

Ensign's attribute guide is a beautiful thing!

[Sleeky101]

Ensign's attribute guide is a beautiful thing!

Although updating it so it doesn't have Elemental Resist, talking about tiers for certain skills, and runes would be helpful ;)

[Kiwi]

I think a mobs database would be nice...

[THX]

We already have one :)
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/creatures-of-tyria-id6.php

[Kiwi]

*bow* thank you, i will digest it very happily and quickly...


Just looked...not to complete I kinda have to say. But tis better then nothing..

[THX]

Not too complete? As far as I know we have all the creatures except for a few in Old Ascalon.

Hence, elaborate on "not too complete" please?

[Kiwi]

well i suck, i only looked at Old Ascalon...

[Whosa Skylore]

well i love the site, the only thing/s i would add would be......maybe a chat room, so people can have comversations and meat each other, i think it would make the guru comutity tighter. another thing (i dont know if its possible) but to add a little chart of how much things should sell for. so if your a first timer and you somehow stumble apon black dye, you dont sell it to a mean person for like 20gp, well i think those would be nice for the site but i love it the way it is now anyways :D

[THX]

We do have a chat room, although it is hidden a bit :): http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content/guild-wars-chat-id358.php

Yeah, we've been thinking of determining the market value of items, although this will probably have to wait until post-release as we need to see how the market reacts.

[Whosa Skylore]

yeah guess thats true, and thanks for showing me to the chat room :) maybe you should put a link to it on the home page....or maybe im just blind and its been there all along :/

[Whosa Skylore]

....hrmmm...when i put the server on the page it says webpage not found? is it not updated or am i just not doing the right thing??

edit- sorry i shoulda edited this post on to the other messege :/ my bad

[Davion]

I love this site...its helping me much more than any of the others with the volumes of information it has gathered.... one question though...is shiver peaks area still part of NDA or is that a work in progress for you guys still..its one area I see almost nothing about.. (can't help it.... book worm addiction right now)

[Tur713]

Yeah, really do love the site. I tried some other forums, but this one just seems to stick with me. It's a really good resource for information.

[MuGz]

Bam, the best Guild Wars Fansite hands down!

There should be a super fansite category. I would nominate this site instantly! Over the past beta weekend I enjoyed myself so much more because of the articles, build ideas, area, creatures and every other feature you guys got here. The design is amazing and glad to see a VB forum installed!

I have no suggestions at the moment, well that's not true but I'm a web developer myself and I'm saving my ideas for me ;) !

Anyways, keep up the good work... cheers

[Eidolon-]

My new one stop shop for all guild wars information :D

...as for suggestions, it would be nice to have a button which displays all skills for a profession on one screen along with placing them within categories and sub categories [ie. ranger < marksmanship < skill < skill info]. Although it would look similar to other fansites it would help those who dont want to backtrack and click through the links for each category. Also the forums seems to be loaded with knowledgeable people [especially alphas :p ] but some of the forum topics should be condensed to focus more posters in one area instead of spreading them out [unless there is a huge influx of posters].

[Genosha]

Hmm.... This is very intresting. I ran down the other sites just to back track my old thought and several things came to mind.

1. Color Friendly - This site is easy on the eyes.
2. User Access - It's very simple to access even for a beginner.
3. Design - Very tidy in a way that allows looped access(Being able to get back to the page you started from).
4. Browser Friendly - IE, Firefox, Netscape, Etc....
5. Friendly People - Highly friendly & socialible.
6. Comparitive - Other sites lack all of what I said & some have even let there site Hmm... Not take on a life of its own, but let the users over run and dictate how it runs.
7. Control - You made very clear that certian things will not be allowed (the GW character sex scenes for instance).
8. Age support - See #7...I know this could be combined, but I think this makes all the difference in the world by allowing all ages.

Final Analysis - This site is an EXCELLENT site and I will not join another. I will also recommend this site to any and all others in Guildwars that I come across that have an intrest in being friendly.

[Sin]

This site appears to be drawing the entire GuildWars community, from developers, to alpha...nda violators...ahem...I mean players, to the newest people to hear about GuildWars and as Genosha said it's friendly but well controlled. Also a good sense of humor in everyone. It makes a big statement as to the type of people who make up the GuildWars community. Thank you for making this site. You are a very capable designer both in style and function.

[MoldyRiceFrenzy]

it needs a wider variety of pictures to put in the avatar i couldnt upload my special picture of my char because it wasa bmp file...now i go no more other pictures to put in it that are cool

[Fezz]

it needs a wider variety of pictures to put in the avatar i couldnt upload my special picture of my char because it wasa bmp file...now i go no more other pictures to put in it that are cool

Why don't you just save the pic as a different file type?

[William the Silent]

Why don't you just save the pic as a different file type?

Exactly, all you need to do is switch it to a .jpg and it'll work fine.

[NelZelpher]

this forum is pretty dope. good job to who ever made it. maybe there could be a new section for other gaming platforms too? lol or if this is solely for gw then hey its all good ^^

[kaz715]

Hi, iv just go on board with the whole Guild Wars thing, and I must say I was a bit scared with all the information about the game coming from different web-sites, but after reading the sub-sections of this web site eg. Proffesions and Levelling Up, im a lot more clearer and im now totally looking forward to the game!!!

GREAT JOB!!!

[JjK]

We look forward to seeing you ingame :)

[Zeppo]

This site is great! Its well organized, serious, and fun, friendly.. hmm.... awesome!

I don't have any suggestions right now, just wanted to say how superior this site is to others.

[Chaosedge]

just wondering...who are you hosted by? and how much does it cost to keep this site up?

[Hiway]

Compared to many other MMORPG forums this has to be the best I have ever read.

It's like a breath of fresh air reading mature responses that are the majority.

[Jesso]

Not to be a thread necro poster, but I just wanted to say how much I've enjoyed reading these forums while I waited (impatiently) for my copy of GW to arrive. I wish GWG much success in the future.

[GranDeWun]

Great site. One minor forum quibble...the search engine rejects short words. Ok, for Google, but a nuisance when serching on PETS or DYE... :)

[Inde]

Well it usually rejects anything under 4 letters. Give me a list of words and I can add them to the acceptable list [I have already added 'fur']

[Smoky Mc Pot]

i have many problems (with my bad eyes ;>) to read the Guild Wars PvP Ladder. Because, i dont have a contrast between the Guild Names.
A little line, or alternating color in every 2nd row will be much better.

I hope u understand my problem, if i read one row, sometimes i jump inadvertently to the next row...

[Inde]

Good call Smoky - I have updated it: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/ladder/

[Mimu]

This is a great site, there's a lot of useful information and I love the forum..

But I had one suggestion:

I used to post on another forum for a different online game, and they had a rule for 'no naming names'.

It meant that if you posted one of these topics about the terrible community (which seems to be a recurring theme on this forum) you had to black out the names using an image program.

I just thought this might be a good idea, as I would imagine that for every 'warning you about this guy' post that appears he will get at least 10 whispers flaming him.

Just a suggestion, but I thought I would mention it. :)

Edit: I just realised that this topic is for website suggestions, not forums. :o

I am so sorry about that, and if there was a topic for forum suggestions I would have posted it there.

[Inde]

We have a no name policy.

[Boris_714]

read my topic "a real pvp" ya will rule with this even beginers will have a chance

[Omega_2005]

This forum is brilliant! And also some of everyone's (Including my thought for the bank, but it actually wasn't) ideas were implemented into the game. Also, the off-topic section is a great laugh :) KEEP IT UP!! :D

[Arvydas]

Just want to say great job. I saw a spam thread (Nuggers.com) quickly got deleted in the Q&A forum. Keep this up guys!

EDIT: Now he's onto the Riverside Inn... please ban this user ASAP. Thanks.
EDIT AGAIN: Cool he's gone now. Thanks again.

[quanzong]

I'd just like to say this site is like Quake1 site www.singed.net (http://www.singed.net) has all these funky games, and forums is same as theres. I never made website but do you download this stuff up or do you create it yourself?

[Omega_2005]

I want to pass on my thanks as an offensive thread was deleted in minutes concerning offence and religion, which could have started a flaming war. Thanks mods, and keep this up!

[GW Insomniac]

Great site with a GREAT community - keep it up :)

[Wilheim Eversmann]

hi guys~ i just wanna know why you guys closed my post.......i just post my new sell thread at my usual online time and you closed my thread and saying that i am not following the rules.....its 23hrs and 40mins.....i know the rule is 24 hrs.....but i am not intended to break the rules, you can give me a warning about that instead of just close my thread :mad: you guys want to make it equal to everyone but it is for who intended to break the rules!!!!!

and now what?? i can post a new post after you closed my post coz its 24hrs already or another 24 hrs? even some of the ppl are still putting topic like godly, amazing weapon.....and you guys just give him ADVICE AND WARNING.........is it fair to me?? :confused:

[Sol_Vie]

I would just like to put out a thanks to all the people that make this site what it is... it is endlessly helpful. There have been few problems I've had with help or anything on here and the way it's all set up is nice and organized. Kudos and thanks. :)

[RTSFirebat]

Its an ok site, shame the front page is hardly ever updated and a number of sections of the site contain out-dated information. :D

[Aniewiel]

You know, the news section of the site was just updated with two new posts yesterday and one the day before. Also, in case you missed it, THX put out an advertisement for new site contributors. Instead of pointing out the shortcomings, why not apply and contribute to the parts that are.....lacking? ;)


Volunteers at Guru

Submitted on August 20, 2005 by THX
We are currently in the process of recruiting new Guru writers and site contributors; that is, dedicated Guild Wars fans who have a knack for writing informative articles and/or contributing essential game data compilations. Such individuals would preferably have some experience, though it is not required. However, dedication, intelligence, maturity and excellent written communication skills are required! If you are interested, please email me with a mini-bio, why you wish to be part of guru, what you wish to contribute and preferably an example of your work. Unfortunately, due to time restrictions, I will not be able to respond to each submission; but I will do my best to contact as many as I can. Remember, these are volunteer positions and all I can guarantee as a reward is a big Thank You!

[Sekkira]

I suggest an overhaul of the structure. There was some info every now and then that I'd like to find out and it was rather unintuitive to find.

[Mormegil]

Its an ok site, shame the front page is hardly ever updated and a number of sections of the site contain out-dated information. :D

"Ok site"? Hands down, this is one the best forum experiences I've ever had, and I'm no kiddie. Great feedback, mature modding and sober, elegant skin.

Now...if you want to flame me for fanboyism, PMs are your best friends. ;)

[RTSFirebat]

"Ok site"? Hands down, this is one the best forum experiences I've ever had, and I'm no kiddie. Great feedback, mature modding and sober, elegant skin.

Now...if you want to flame me for fanboyism, PMs are your best friends. ;)

Well as a web developer I was more talking about the site struture as a whole :) The forum is one of the best, but still other sections of the site are hard to navigate and some parts are incompleted.

No fault of anyone, just better administration is required. I may send in an application for that position of helper.

[zehly]

This site is the best community I've every had the pleasure of being in.

[Witchblade]

pls i want signatures :) :p

[Link Ironhammer]

I thought I would praise the moderators. Thes moderators on here are great, the one that has been on the most is the smite mistress herself... Aniewiel.
Moderators feel free to post here.

-Merged with the appropriate thread.

[PieXags]

Aniewiel is the forum goddess I pray to when I need help here.

[Link Ironhammer]

I agree, I think she should be the smite goddess

[Manderlock]

Yea, Aniewiel is so quick on closing the questionable threads, that I hardly get a chance to post in them. :D

Great job Anie

[EchoSex]

I sacrifice Troll Luers (Flame Bait) every day over a bandsaw in the name of the forum mods.

[zehly]

Anie is a savior. Nuff said.

[Dame&Beast]

I must agree that Aniewiel is an excellent mod :) That is because she has maternal instincts :D That makes her awesome ;)

[Old Dood]

Aniewiel could go from Smite Mistress to Smite Mom! http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif