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Old Apr 03, 2008, 09:22 PM // 21:22   #1
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Default Allow Exploration to FA/JQ without entering mission

They should give the option to Gunther/Luxon Commander to let players enter the mission as a separate explorable of FA so people can explore it without having to risk survivor or wasting time waiting. Same thing for Durheim and Erek of JQ. (Will/may help stop the qq'ers of I-cannot-get-100%-cause-I-can't-get-in!!!!!!)

EDIT: Probably should remove all npcs too or even keep them in and make them all friendly. (Could also help getting used to mission, not sure)

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Old Apr 03, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24   #2
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i would agree to this. seems like a reasonable request.
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Old Apr 03, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32   #3
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I like it, and I also would like it if in Vasburg armory/leviathan pits if the armor npc's would sell you the prestige armor of the team that is in control at the time, cause I hate going to VA and seeing luxon control and not being able to do anything.
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Old Apr 03, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10   #4
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I like the idea
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Old Apr 03, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16   #5
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Nice idea, but then that removes all challenge of getting Canthan cartographer. There is a overabundance of QQ'ers who complain about not getting into JQ, so how bout this, seeing how there are already people on guru who try to set up groups to get in, why not have the QQ'ers join those groups? I did, 3 times, not that big of a deal.

Something I would like to see though is the addition of a NPC at each mission outpost in Prophecies that lets people go into an explorable area version of those missions. Those NPCs would only allow you to go in after completing the mission of course. It would be a good way to add in more quests and add in places where the "new weapons" can be dropped.
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Old Apr 03, 2008, 10:50 PM // 22:50   #6
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Not only there.

ALL PvP areas should be explorable without entering battle. Including all arenas.

Why? If you just want to know the area. You should not enter and bother those playing by fooling around.

They could also have an NPC in each one called 'keeper of the arena'. That has clues about the area and zones the party out of the place by talking to them.

Just like wit the Guild Halls and the Canthan ambassador.
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Old Apr 03, 2008, 10:55 PM // 22:55   #7
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Nice idea, but then that removes all challenge of getting Canthan cartographer. There is a overabundance of QQ'ers who complain about not getting into JQ, so how bout this, seeing how there are already people on guru who try to set up groups to get in, why not have the QQ'ers join those groups? I did, 3 times, not that big of a deal.

Something I would like to see though is the addition of a NPC at each mission outpost in Prophecies that lets people go into an explorable area version of those missions. Those NPCs would only allow you to go in after completing the mission of course. It would be a good way to add in more quests and add in places where the "new weapons" can be dropped.

Listen to this man!

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Old Apr 05, 2008, 09:55 AM // 09:55   #8
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Nice idea, but then that removes all challenge of getting Canthan cartographer. There is a overabundance of QQ'ers who complain about not getting into JQ, so how bout this, seeing how there are already people on guru who try to set up groups to get in, why not have the QQ'ers join those groups? I did, 3 times, not that big of a deal.

Something I would like to see though is the addition of a NPC at each mission outpost in Prophecies that lets people go into an explorable area version of those missions. Those NPCs would only allow you to go in after completing the mission of course. It would be a good way to add in more quests and add in places where the "new weapons" can be dropped.
/notsigned. You already can get max;part of the fun of that title is finding the areas you lack.
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Old Apr 05, 2008, 12:04 PM // 12:04   #9
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/notsigned, because JQ would never get played again if that were the case.
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Old Apr 05, 2008, 12:56 PM // 12:56   #10
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We should also be allowed to explore the low level arenas.
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Old Apr 05, 2008, 12:58 PM // 12:58   #11
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/signed
even tho i don't do it i'd like to see it happen for the explorers of Cantha
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Old Apr 05, 2008, 01:13 PM // 13:13   #12
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I'd sign only if it was done for ALL challenge/competetive missions. Dragon's Throat, Remains of Sahlajha, etc. all have areas that may not be cartography credit, but allow completing the mission easier. People who want to learn how to do the FULL mission must either succeed, or read wiki. Removing NPCs and monsters, however, should not be done. Things like the Juggernauts and Siege Turtles should not be active and fighting, but all else should. No explorable area has no monsters to fight (except Zen Daijun for Canthans who completed the attribtue point quest).
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Old Apr 05, 2008, 03:13 PM // 15:13   #13
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/notsigned, because JQ would never get played again if that were the case.
Do you play JQ. I dotn think you play JQ sp why you care JQ being played or not.

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Old Apr 05, 2008, 03:16 PM // 15:16   #14
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I'm not bothered. /Half-signed.
It could help, but it kills the place dead. (HOW DO YOU KILL THAT WHICH HAS NO LIFE??)
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Old Apr 05, 2008, 07:56 PM // 19:56   #15
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No one plays it anyway. They prefer to play FA. I don't see the harm in it.
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Old Apr 05, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36   #16
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I lay'd my Cantha Cartographer title on ice just becouse i couldn't find a party for thoes missions.

Like so many other areas in Factions there is a Mission area and a way to get into a Explorable area of the same kind. Why not in FA & JQ?
Challange and Explorable option. (With foes otherwise it would get to easy)
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Old Apr 05, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52   #17
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Do you play JQ. I dotn think you play JQ sp why you care JQ being played or not.

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1.He can't play JQ because there is no one there/only cartographers.
2.He cares if JQ is being played or not because he wants to play JQ.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 01:35 AM // 01:35   #18
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Do you play JQ. I dotn think you play JQ sp why you care JQ being played or not.

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1.He can't play JQ because there is no one there/only cartographers.
2.He cares if JQ is being played or not because he wants to play JQ.
lol wut

Please don't think I'm not backing up my opinion with a reason.

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Old Apr 06, 2008, 09:41 AM // 09:41   #19
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yes it would decrease the players actually taking part in the mission, however that is more a case of the mission being unpopular.

This is for exploration.

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Old Apr 06, 2008, 04:15 PM // 16:15   #20
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yes it would decrease the players actually taking part in the mission, however that is more a case of the mission being unpopular.

This is for exploration.

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Not only for exploration!

In PvE areas, you can kill the monsters then see the area for the next times.
PvP areas and missions without explorable counterpart can be seen only on the go.

So, what this could make:
- Allow terrain reconnaissance without bothering other players.
- Allow exploration without having to wait for other players to join.
- Allow bein able to see the WONDERFUL, WONDOUES, BEAUTIFUL and... eh... (all those flattering adjectives... you know the drilll) scenarios without being pushed by fights and timers.

All advantages...

Well... excepting the extra work to do so... hehe...
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