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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:07 PM // 21:07   #841
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Just FYI: We will not be doing a rollback. There is no need to do so. We banned a significant number of players involved in the exploit, and we're continuing to research to ascertain whether other bans will be necessary. But according to Mike O'Brien -- who oughta know -- we won't need to do a rollback.
yeah, lets thx anet for doing the obvious, banning the players that took advantage of the dupe glitch.

what are you doing about the new infusion of duped armbraces, ectos, etc. into the economy?

my guess is absolutely nothing.
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10   #842
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Last time I remember a rollback, it almost took an entire day to fix only a few hours. From what I hear this exploit has happened for a long time. All I have to say is that as good of a job Anet has done at preventing exploits things like these will always happen as long as you make gold a scarce thing. I would like the old drops implemented without farming codes. People are going to get away from this exploit scott free. The smarter ones that probably duped elite tomes, decent amount of ecto and obsidian shards, rubies or other common things that sell effectively and wasn't dead obvious.

I would prefer decent drops when I farm, that would stop people from finding out exploits.
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10   #843
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Is it fair that a few hundred people made MILLIONS while the rest of the game is Mildly poor? No. Most people are concerned about their titles and shit but they wont even lend a noob a measly 50g because they are that selfish. This game needs to be fair for ALL people, not just the ones that exploit glitches and bugs in the system.

VOTE ROLLBACK!!!
I hope u realize that is basically the equivalent of communism. hey everybody, lets take all the money stock brokers make and give it to everybody cuz they got lucky and its not fair others didnt get lucky!

I lost several hundred plats this weekend and will probably lose more if ppl realize that several ppl have stacks of duped ectos. yeah my tormented items are no longer as exclusive as they used to be. who cares? count the number of ppl in shing jea who afk'ed their titles, + the number of ppl who went ha, + the suprisingly MASSIVE amount of ppl who either recieved new tiers or maxed out their titles. im pretty sure there are more of those that loathe a rollback than those who support one.

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stop throwing out inaccurate accusations. before you throw out accusations, get some proof.
and if he was a duper, what would it help this thraed & the community (other than people going PANIC and spamming him like hell).
go on, tell me i'm a duper too, i have armbraces.
hey learn some english comprehension skills please. u know wut most likely means? that means u SUSPECT someone. when u accuse someone, u say they DID do something. suspecting ppl without proof is legal. accusing someone without is not. im not saying u dupe because i know ur rich. having under 30 armbraces can be legit because 1 stack of ectos could be sold for about 4-7 armbraces. however, u dont think its a lil suspicious to have over 200 esp. since the person in question happend to close the thread the SAME day that the duping thing came to light?

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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:12 PM // 21:12   #844
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Step down and you get to the poor folk. Innocent players who buy armbraces from: The dupe wholesaler/laundry account and the innocent rich account. These guys have no idea that they are dabbling in ill gotten goods. They could be banned by association.
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If I didn't read guru, I wouldn't know about the duping of armbraces and if I had seen someone selling armbraces and <100k I probably would've bought one not knowing about duping and frankly not believing it possible. It's guys like this that will suffer undeservingly if accounts are perma banned by association to duped items.

On the other hand perhaps accounts are being banned then their actions are being reviewed and the are being classified as either a victim or perpetrator and the former will be unbanned and the latter banned. Even though I had nothing to do with armbraces or any expensive goods in the past week I wouldn't mind giving up my account for a few days if I knew that I would get it back and if I knew that this meant items were being restored to their original amounts and owners.
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:12 PM // 21:12   #845
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What about all the people who sold their pets for millions of gold and are left with armbraces worth very little now.

I cant get access to GW but if a person received 250 armbraces which were worth 70 ecto each and they are now worth 5 ecto (a guess) each then the armbraces are only worth 1250 ecto which is like 7 million or so now.

I really cannot see armbraces returning to their original value after all of this.
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:13 PM // 21:13   #846
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If you mean , if i were to go buy a stack of someone selling them for cheap because he wants to get money fast and get rid of the evidence, if i would be in danger of getting banned?

I think the answer is very likely, i mean it is then almost certain that i know something is up and would also be trying to take advantage of the situation, I would just warn anyone that is thinking about buying lots of arm braces that they might be at risk, if your buying 1 or 2 i think the chance are low.

Note : I do not wish or even have the money to buy a single Arm Bracer, it was just and example
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:17 PM // 21:17   #847
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What about all the people who sold their pets for millions of gold and are left with armbraces worth very little now.

I cant get access to GW but if a person received 250 armbraces which were worth 70 ecto each and they are now worth 5 ecto (a guess) each then the armbraces are only worth 1250 ecto which is like 7 million or so now.

I really cannot see armbraces returning to their original value after all of this.

now that there are so many armbraces in the game, it just provides the majority of anets player base [casual gamers] a realistic opportunity to get one. since thats obviously a good byproduct of this fiasco, i dont see anet doing anything to rid the game of the new duped armbraces.

go go anet
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19   #848
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40+ pages,my eyes seeing Arm braces everywhere.

I guess that [skill]Shatter Delusions[/skill] for those high-end trader when dupe happens.Good job for those who inform A-net

Lets hope this exploit won't delay GW:EN
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21   #849
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Wow..

I hope every single person that purchases a armbrace for what the market price was couple days ago (100k 50k+ ectos) gets a banned.

Buyers and sellers darn well know buying an armbrace for anything way lower, is not right. and They know what they are doing buying them for so cheap.. ._.

Anet fix please.
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:23 PM // 21:23   #850
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What about all the people who sold their pets for millions of gold and are left with armbraces worth very little now.

I cant get access to GW but if a person received 250 armbraces which were worth 70 ecto each and they are now worth 5 ecto (a guess) each then the armbraces are only worth 1250 ecto which is like 7 million or so now.

I really cannot see armbraces returning to their original value after all of this.
Come on, do you really feel there's a need to somehow compensate someone who sold his pet for a mere 7 million instead of the ridiculous amount he got offered for it?

Also, AoT's wont drop that dramatically unless ofc the people who received a 1000 of them for a minipet start dumping them. In which case they only have themselves to blame but then again, what else can you do with that many?

How many of us would want to even pay 5 ecto for one? I certainly wont and while it sounds great you have 100 million gw gold tied up in AoT's I highly doubt that they'd retain their value anyway once you start selling that many.
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:24 PM // 21:24   #851
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Anet can delete or replace items in people's inventories.

Time to show us your skillz.

Replace all dupe armbrace stacks with some unique minipet! XD
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:25 PM // 21:25   #852
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I just forget "RIP to DoA".
Dev could just adjust DoA after GW:EN relese so it will be a little more appealing for non-hardcoe players.
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:28 PM // 21:28   #853
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pretty much yeah.

Player a: Oh nice torment shield
Player b: Yeah took ages to farm / bought it at 100K + 60E Plus
Player c: Ha ha ha nub bought an axe + shield for only 50K

Bigtime /Doh

(Yes I farmed gemstones + 180K to buy a t shield ,a week ago *sad* )
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36   #854
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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0185875&page=5

================================================== =======

"...Shame really dont you have anything better to do?..." said manitoba1073


I play dude and I dont make bizeness like you and your mates who are all huge collectors.

Its by reading the check price posts (here!!! in the guru forum, go ahead John!! check by yourself) that I learnt that a certain Sir The Herbalizer was very famous and aware of the MARKET PRICES, especialy the rare items. I learnt as well that he is THE or ONE of THE BIGGEST RARE ITEMS COLLECTOR in GW.

When I write that: I am sorry to tell you that - YOU - guys ( I will not give name they will recognize themselves ) are at the origin of all that shit LOL

I mean I dont say that YOU are responsible for the embrace trick (& who knows? you are so well informed), read the word which is underlined, YOU are at the O R I G I N....the birth of this degerenation. Some players made HUGE PROFITS due to Anet mistakes.

==============================================

I am so happy about you been banned Sir The Herbalizer, you knew it all, you make me laugh so much N°1

How can you write such things Dude :

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0185875&page=3

"....Because rarely something remotely interesting happens regarding the Guild Wars economy.

Anet pride themselves on being unhackable and all that other stuff.

There are screens of people with $55,000 worth of armbraces. Thats alot of money.

Something interesting is happening.

As interesting things rarely occur regarding the Guild Wars economy that excited me. Not in a sexual way but in a wow this is really interesting kind of way.

Just like all those trade resets where people were running round grabbing ecto for 250 gold each. Or that time when superior vigors dropped in price for no reason and everyone bought dozens of them. Or when ettins in beetleton dropped only gold runes. Or when the ettins dropped tons of superior vigors and you could sell for a load. People with insane amounts of gold obtained god knows how is pretty damn interesting. Especially since there are like 3 + other threads on it too.

People can find computer games exciting too you know...."

Shame on you Sir The Herbalizer LOL

I told you that you have a H U G E EGO...........do you remember dude?

How is it possible to write such things ? :

"...I prefer trading, its much more relaxed. You can sit in LA with a group of friends chatting and showing each other items. Chat to your guild and friends. Use ts or vent. Browse the net etc. For me it was a lot more interesting than farming and alot less stressful."

Tell me please, for how long havent you been REALLY playing the game?????

Months for sure.............and you want to make us believe that you are a PLAYER

Shame on you !!!!!



".... "...Posting late at night can lead to all sorts of mistakes and things being overlooked. Especially when you accidently hit a key and the whole post you spent typing out for ages disappears thus causing you to hastily type out another less well thought out post. And watching Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back too does not help things..."

You have a big EGO The Herbalizer and I am faraway to be jealous. I am joking with you only cause you have a huge EGO

But AGAIN when I read that : "...I prefer trading, its much more relaxed. You can sit in LA with a group of friends chatting and showing each other items. Chat to your guild and friends. Use ts or vent. Browse the net etc. For me it was a lot more interesting than farming and alot less stressful." I find it SAD...I know...Posting late at night can lead to all sorts of mistakes & misunderstandings LOL

Like I said in a previous post, most (I have no stats sorry) of the players are IN IT for the MONEY + FAME . Why not ? I have nothing against it.

CHAIN REACTION

The results are that THE PLAYERS who want to achieve a/m goals will make EVERYTHING to reach them = leechers + bots + chinese farming companies + Ig$seller = a kind of disgusting plague.

The GAME is losing its soul.......

And Sir The Herbalizer, please accept my apologies if I hurt you LOL "
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:41 PM // 21:41   #855
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as a joke anet should replace all cloned AoTs with a lump of charcoal worth 1g and then ban the account
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:50 PM // 21:50   #856
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Hmm wtf.....?
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59   #857
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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0185875&page=5

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"...Shame really dont you have anything better to do?..." said manitoba1073


I play dude and I dont make bizeness like you and your mates who are all huge collectors.

Its by reading the check price posts (here!!! in the guru forum, go ahead John!! check by yourself) that I learnt that a certain Sir The Herbalizer was very famous and aware of the MARKET PRICES, especialy the rare items. I learnt as well that he is THE or ONE of THE BIGGEST RARE ITEMS COLLECTOR in GW.

When I write that: I am sorry to tell you that - YOU - guys ( I will not give name they will recognize themselves ) are at the origin of all that shit LOL

I mean I dont say that YOU are responsible for the embrace trick (& who knows? you are so well informed), read the word which is underlined, YOU are at the O R I G I N....the birth of this degerenation. Some players made HUGE PROFITS due to Anet mistakes.

==============================================

I am so happy about you been banned Sir The Herbalizer, you knew it all, you make me laugh so much N°1

How can you write such things Dude :

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0185875&page=3

"....Because rarely something remotely interesting happens regarding the Guild Wars economy.

Anet pride themselves on being unhackable and all that other stuff.

There are screens of people with $55,000 worth of armbraces. Thats alot of money.

Something interesting is happening.

As interesting things rarely occur regarding the Guild Wars economy that excited me. Not in a sexual way but in a wow this is really interesting kind of way.

Just like all those trade resets where people were running round grabbing ecto for 250 gold each. Or that time when superior vigors dropped in price for no reason and everyone bought dozens of them. Or when ettins in beetleton dropped only gold runes. Or when the ettins dropped tons of superior vigors and you could sell for a load. People with insane amounts of gold obtained god knows how is pretty damn interesting. Especially since there are like 3 + other threads on it too.

People can find computer games exciting too you know...."

Shame on you Sir The Herbalizer LOL

I told you that you have a H U G E EGO...........do you remember dude?

How is it possible to write such things ? :

"...I prefer trading, its much more relaxed. You can sit in LA with a group of friends chatting and showing each other items. Chat to your guild and friends. Use ts or vent. Browse the net etc. For me it was a lot more interesting than farming and alot less stressful."

Tell me please, for how long havent you been REALLY playing the game?????

Months for sure.............and you want to make us believe that you are a PLAYER

Shame on you !!!!!



".... "...Posting late at night can lead to all sorts of mistakes and things being overlooked. Especially when you accidently hit a key and the whole post you spent typing out for ages disappears thus causing you to hastily type out another less well thought out post. And watching Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back too does not help things..."

You have a big EGO The Herbalizer and I am faraway to be jealous. I am joking with you only cause you have a huge EGO

But AGAIN when I read that : "...I prefer trading, its much more relaxed. You can sit in LA with a group of friends chatting and showing each other items. Chat to your guild and friends. Use ts or vent. Browse the net etc. For me it was a lot more interesting than farming and alot less stressful." I find it SAD...I know...Posting late at night can lead to all sorts of mistakes & misunderstandings LOL

Like I said in a previous post, most (I have no stats sorry) of the players are IN IT for the MONEY + FAME . Why not ? I have nothing against it.

CHAIN REACTION

The results are that THE PLAYERS who want to achieve a/m goals will make EVERYTHING to reach them = leechers + bots + chinese farming companies + Ig$seller = a kind of disgusting plague.

The GAME is losing its soul.......

And Sir The Herbalizer, please accept my apologies if I hurt you LOL "
Uhhh.... what? ? ? What does Herb, or any other collectors, have to do with this? The least you could do is make your flames coherent.
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59   #858
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Has the banning stopped? I hope not..
I really want a update. ><

How many have been banned?
Were any of them not the original sellers? (buyers and resellers)
Were any of them buyers? (even if it was just 1 armbrace)
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OH TEH QUESTIONS! >o<
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 10:02 PM // 22:02   #859
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Zorgy quit smoking crack and try to make sense, you've posted this gibberish in two threads already.
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03   #860
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I might actually get that ugly staff if they reach 20k. :P
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